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    Re: Fomatone 532 II Nature experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by plaubel View Post

    Regarding the "..2", they should.

    At this time I prefer the unique look of the 532 over the 131; I never used 132 but I
    should compare with 532.

    By the way, I took a while to understand the differences of the numbers.
    Maybe it is helpful to explain

    131 - Baryta, white, glance
    132 " , " , no glance
    532 paper , naturell, no glance
    I think you mean the '3' as in x3x - that's the signifier for natural white paper base - the '2' in xx2 is matte finish, though if xx3 signifies lustre, I'd tend to describe 532 as more like 2.5 - it has a degree of surface sheen & slight 'lustre' texture that 132 doesn't. I'm also not totally convinced that there's no baryta layer in 532 etc - it is certainly better behaved than most baryta papers when drying, but it doesn't behave like Ilford's Art 300 - though this may be down to fourdrinier vs mould-made paper behaviour. From my understanding of how Kodak made their paper bases, the thickness & calendaring of the baryta could be varied pretty widely to control how much paper texture showed through.

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    Re: Fomatone 532 II Nature experience?

    Good to know that 532 might disappear, one of my favourite papers, so I'd better stock up a little...
    Anyway, it is true that foma is somewhat chaotic in their produce - some time ago I bought a bunch of 131Y - baryta based paper, glossy, but with yellow-ish tones.. quite interesting for some purposes.. never seen those papers since..
    Website of sorts, as well as flickr thing.

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    Re: Fomatone 532 II Nature experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by interneg View Post
    I'm also not totally convinced that there's no baryta layer in 532 etc
    I can't check the baryta content of paper, so I have to believe the offers:

    " 532 - black and white paper in a warm tone on an NB base with variable gradation""

    NB stands for non baryta.
    Here they describe the 532 as "manufactured on naturally paper base" :
    http://www.foma.cz/en/catalogue-foma...ii-detail-1078

    I can't find the other text where Foma describes the 532 as "oldstyle and unique".

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    Re: Fomatone 532 II Nature experience?

    Test strips.
    One year old 532, untoned but badly digitalized:

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    532, bleached and toned in a mild soup of thiourea:

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    Re: Fomatone 532 II Nature experience?

    Fomatome 542 Chamois Type I, developed in Moersch Separol HE, Toned in Moersch Siena:

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    Type I had less yellow base tint than Type II.
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    Re: Fomatone 532 II Nature experience?

    the reflexion zone may show the "rough" surface of the MT3 toned 532 nature:

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    I made a comparison of hard developed 131, and 2 x 532, developed in Tetenal warmtone and in something hard like Dokumol , named Rollei RHC (really good stuff):

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    Not much to see here, sorry, I don't feel comfortable with digital equipment.
    In real, warm and cold differences are slightly visible, but it was hard to find other obvicious differencies.
    131 came most contrasty for sure, because of the shining surface.
    But not only in this comparism I prefer the matte surface of 532, and this paper seems to bring the wood somehow more organic.

    Now I am higly interested in a comparism between 532 and 132.

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    Re: Fomatone 532 II Nature experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by plaubel View Post
    Now I am higly interested in a comparism between 532 and 132.
    132 should be totally matte with no reflection coming back, whereas 532 shows some sheen.
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    Re: Fomatone 532 II Nature experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by plaubel View Post
    Test strips.
    One year old 532, untoned but badly digitalized:

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    532, bleached and toned in a mild soup of thiourea:

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    The first image is excessively warm; no paper turns out this warm without toning. That digitization is wildly inaccurate.
    In the second, you apparently also toned your fingers along with the prints
    Sorry, but such an example is of course of very little use in conveying the characteristics of a paper. The other ones you showed later on are much closer to what I get from these papers.

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    Re: Fomatone 532 II Nature experience?

    I am sorry that my examples are less helpful.
    Yes, comparing with the original it looks brownish, and I wonder why.

    All I can say is what I said before:

    on top>>untoned.

    bottom>>toned.

    digital >> it's not me.

    I try to give a better copy of the untoned one.

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    Re: Fomatone 532 II Nature experience?

    Don't mind my words, your examples are appreciated. Especially the comparison of the 131/532 is interesting and looks much like what I get with Fomatone papers.

    It's been a while since I used some 532-II but I checked and I still have a few sheets. I remember the base being very warm indeed and the surface more reminiscent of a quasi-matte RC paper than baryta, although the base is absolutely paper and not plastic. To be frank, I never really warmed to this paper. I prefer the regular Fomatone MG, also for lith.

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