Switching back to condensor head, 45MCRX, from cold light

[Paul Ron]

Ive been using my Beseler 45MCRX enlarger for over 30 years with a cold light. Seeing so many people using LED bulbs these days I was thinking of putting my condenser head back on with an LED bulb.

The light chamber of the regular head has a semi gloss cone inside where the bulb is. My question is this....

Should I paint the cone ultra flat black to reduce reflection or flat white to increase the light?

will it make any difference painting it?



edit... sorry I see this should have gone in Equipment.

[xkaes]

Just curious, why use an LED bulb? Is the regular 212 not bright enough or is there some special result that is achieved with LED.

I must admit, I like them in my flashlights, but I have a lifetime supply of 212s, and they are plenty bright enough for me.

The interior of my CB7 and 45MXII condenser heads are white, as you describe, but the interior of my CB7 point light head (with a tiny bulb) is black. I have no idea why -- but an LED would be closer to the size of the PLS bulb. There must be a reason, so perhaps black will work better. That is just a guess. They both seem to create the same illumination edge to edge for me. Beseler must have done it for a reason.

One point (ha,ha) to consider is, the point light source head is taller than the condenser head body. Again, I don't know why. Beseler must have done it for a reason.

[Jim Noel]

"One point (ha,ha) to consider is, the point light source head is taller than the condenser head body. Again, I don't know why. Beseler must have done it for a reason."
The additional height is necessary in order to focus the light correctly for various sized prints.

[xkaes]

That is what the adjustable condenser stage is for -- to focus the light correctly for various sized prints. You have not answered my question, nor have you offered an explanation. Have you ever actually used a Point Light Source?

And how does that help Paul get it right about using an LED light(s) in his standard condenser assembly?

[Luis-F-S]

So it's worked for 30 years and you feel a need to change it?

[Paul Ron]

LED bulbs run cool. the physical bulb size are the same.

yup 30 years of cold light. i love it, but im looking for that extra snap of condeners. i still have the cold light and can and will interchange them at random as i may chose for other situations or just may never use the one or the other ever again.

i thought about white. it would reflect more light to the negatives.
but black will reduce the reflected stray light and may give a better sharper print... i mean contrast boost.


edit: why do this? because i can.

[xkaes]

I had been only thinking of the tiny LED bulbs, not the "normal" size bulbs. That should work fine and I assume you can get one brighter, dimmer, or the same "wattage" output as the 212. If the "normal" size LED bulbs are like normal incandescent bulbs they will be imprinted on the top. Bulbs designed for enlargers have this info imprinted on the side instead so that it won't show up on the print!! Is that an issue with these LED bulbs? Also, I have read that LED bulbs have a different color spectrum (bluer?) than incandescent. With VC paper that might require adjustment. Others will know about this and chime in.

[xkaes]

i thought about white. it would reflect more light to the negatives.
but black will reduce the reflected stray light and may give a better sharper print... i mean contrast boost.

Interesting question. That might be why the interior of the point light source head is black instead of the normal condenser head. You could always run some tests first. One would be just try to use your condenser head with the regular 212 bulb (or what you have). As I recall the dimmer version is a 211. That might meet your needs. Another test would be to compare the condenser head as is vs painted black. That would take time and trouble -- especially if you find out the black version is not what you like. But paint in spray cans would make it easier.

Have you already compared the results from the cold light and condenser heads? I know there is a difference, but some people consider it more substantial than others.

[ic-racer]

My one condenser enlarger projects the image of back-illuminated frosted disk, so bulb physical characteristics are not that important.
However, most all other condenser enlargers project the image of the bulb. So the size, color and texture of the bulb will alter the projected image. Good thing is that nothing is occult, you will be able to detect uneven illumination easily with testing.

[xkaes]

My one condenser enlarger projects the image of back-illuminated frosted disk

I've read about these, but never used one. Assuming the disk is easy to remove, you would have the best of both worlds. Is the disc above the condenser or below it?

Beseler made an interesting adapter for (most of?) their 45 enlargers that allows you to place their diffusion color heads ON TOP of the standard condenser assembly. That may sound odd. They advertised it as a way to add more UMMMPH or PUNCH to your color images without loosing the benefits of the color head. I have one, but I never used it because there are ways to add PUNCH in the color developing process.