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    Rodenstock Sinaron SE 150 soft results

    I picked up one of these and was pretty excited. I took a few shots last night in the studio and developed. The scans this morning were really soft. The object I shot was pretty close, 3.5 feet.

    The same shots from my Schneider APO 210 were beautiful from about 7-8 feet. Was shooting Tmax 100 and HP5 @200.

    I'm a bit perplexed. Is there a distance where this lens should attain its reputable sharpness? Maybe there's an alignment issue? The ground glass image looked great under loupe. I'll keep shooting. Any advice troubleshooting this would be appreciated.

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    Re: Rodenstock Sinaron SE 150 soft results

    It is corrected for normal shooting distances at f22. It is not. Macro lens.

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    Re: Rodenstock Sinaron SE 150 soft results

    Test the lens for with a distant object at f/16 and f/22, to see if the lens has a problem.

    The Sinaron SE is Sironar-S, so it is optimized for magnifications from 1:10 to infinite.

    To check GG to film plane matching just place a ruler on a table, and take a shot with some 20º inclination angle, remember what number of the ruler was in focus in GG...

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    Re: Rodenstock Sinaron SE 150 soft results

    Quote Originally Posted by Pere Casals View Post
    Test the lens for with a distant object at f/16 and f/22, to see if the lens has a problem.

    The Sinaron SE is Sironar-S, so it is optimized for magnifications from 1:10 to infinite.

    To check GG to film plane matching just place a ruler on a table, and take a shot with some 20º inclination angle, remember what number of the ruler was in focus in GG...
    Sinaron SE = Sironar-N

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    Re: Rodenstock Sinaron SE 150 soft results

    Quote Originally Posted by rayograph View Post
    Sinaron SE = Sironar-N
    No.

    Sinaron S = (Apo-)Sironar-N.
    Sinaron SE = Apo-Sironar-S.

    There is no ambiguity, as the Sinarons and the Apo-branded Rodenstocks are clearly labeled with their angle of view.

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    Re: Rodenstock Sinaron SE 150 soft results

    Quote Originally Posted by Oren Grad View Post
    No.

    Sinaron S = (Apo-)Sironar-N.
    Sinaron SE = Apo-Sironar-S.

    There is no ambiguity, as the Sinarons and the Apo-branded Rodenstocks are clearly labeled with their angle of view.


    Ohhh, that's right. I stand corrected.

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    Re: Rodenstock Sinaron SE 150 soft results

    Quote Originally Posted by Oren Grad View Post
    No.

    Sinaron S = (Apo-)Sironar-N.
    Sinaron SE = Apo-Sironar-S.

    There is no ambiguity, as the Sinarons and the Apo-branded Rodenstocks are clearly labeled with their angle of view.
    No, the angle of view of a lens changes with the image format. The lenses are labeled with the angle of coverage of the lens. In this case either 72 or 75°.

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    Re: Rodenstock Sinaron SE 150 soft results

    At 3.5 feet from object to lens, your magnification was about 1:6. As Pere and Bob mentioned, it is not a macro lens, although 1:6 stopped down should still be reasonable. Try again with something at 1:20 - about 10ft 4" from object to lens.

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    Re: Rodenstock Sinaron SE 150 soft results

    So what you're saying is this isn't the best studio lens. 10 feet is about twice as far away as would be useful at this focal length unless I start making 8 foot tall sculptures. As you can probably tell I am new to this , would stopping down to f32 enable closer shooting
    Or am I really hamstrung by the 1:10.

    I'll keep testing regardless

    Edit : I misread some of the posted advice. There might be hope!..

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    Re: Rodenstock Sinaron SE 150 soft results

    Something is wrong. Even that close it should produce very nice results.

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