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    Ingmar Bergman in my youth, and lingering in my vision for another thirty years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim10219 View Post
    I wouldn’t go that far, in fact I think you could make a truly abstract photo by just about anyone’s definition by avoiding a lens and playing with the developing chemicals. Justine Varga made quite a stir when she won $20k for a photo made from spit and scratches.
    I am not sure that I can consider this work as a photograph. A photographic image (or even painting) perhaps but not a photograph. I think that accepting this work as a photograph will make by extension anything on the photosensitive material, that we would conventionally not consider as such, a photograph. For example digital art on the photographic paper would become a photograph.

    I think that there should be some form of the camera present to make a photograph.

    This of course does not mean that direct manipulation of the photosensitive material could not stand as a separate form of the art.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erian View Post
    I am not sure that I can consider this work as a photograph. A photographic image (or even painting) perhaps but not a photograph. I think that accepting this work as a photograph will make by extension anything on the photosensitive material, that we would conventionally not consider as such, a photograph. For example digital art on the photographic paper would become a photograph.

    I think that there should be some form of the camera present to make a photograph.

    This of course does not mean that direct manipulation of the photosensitive material could not stand as a separate form of the art.
    i had the same problem in the 90s,
    prints on KODAK PAPER weren't "photography"

    ticked me off so much i ended up part owning an art gallery with a buch of other people
    where they were interested more in the final product than labels...
    enjoy your coffee

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    A fun experiment is to use your photographic vision to inspire other media!
    Go on a short outing armed with only a small sketchbook and pencil and instead of taking snapshots with a camera, sketch the same scenes/situations using a minimalist drawing style.
    A eight or twelve or so of these sketches can give you insight on how you notice things.
    I steal time at 1/125th of a second, so I don't consider my photography to be Fine Art as much as it is petty larceny.
    I'm not OCD. I'm CDO which is alphabetically correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnanian View Post
    i had the same problem in the 90s,
    prints on KODAK PAPER weren't "photography"

    ticked me off so much i ended up part owning an art gallery with a buch of other people
    where they were interested more in the final product than labels...
    I do not think that it is the same issue but I would be still interesting to know more about this story.

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    I'm guessing Kodak Paper of the 90's was perceived as for Kodak moments and not art... The good old rich Kodak papers of previous generations were gone. Kodak paper in the early 90's was commonly RC VC paper with Kodak written diagonally on the back. Kodak was going down hill in their paper business. They made more and more crappy consumer films like APS and disc. They ended their paper business. For a long time they were merely suppliers of a few good films to pros while spinning wheels elsewhere in business. Ilford had clean white boxes, like we expect from Apple now. Ilford had artistic photos on every box label. It didn't have a manufacturer's name on the back. It was a carte blanche literally so we could buy it and do so artistically. That's my experience from the 90's as an amateur photographer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erian View Post
    I do not think that it is the same issue but I would be still interesting to know more about this story.
    kind of the same but different. you don't consider her cameraless work to be photography
    i was schlepping around similar work to galleries in the early 90s
    and told me they weren't photographs ..
    kind of like what you said ...
    so instead i joined up with a handful of people paid rent and part owned a gallery.

    Quote Originally Posted by jp View Post
    I'm guessing Kodak Paper of the 90's was perceived as for Kodak moments and not art...
    naaah it wasn't the paper, they just didn't "get it" ( it being printed on fb sw paper )
    Last edited by jnantz; 22-Sep-2018 at 14:02.
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