LFPF censorship and moderation

[Pere Casals]

RHITMrB, I'm not a tenor, I'm baritone... in fact I'm a modest opera singer...

Don't get angry... life is nice.

Just post art and poetry in the Lounge and technical knowledge in the LF forum... not that difficult

[Jmarmck]

We've thought about it, and are still thinking about it. I don't know where we will end up. Most likely we'll stand where we are. Conceivably somebody could say something that will change our minds; accusing us of bigotry isn't going to do it, though. Indeed, the overall tenor of the reaction tends to reaffirm our fears that certain kinds of topics bring out the worst in people and are way more trouble then they are worth to try to manage.

Then consider this. The motivation of the entities put forth all based on hate (or fear however you may see it). These are often labels that members CHOOSE to have put to themselves.
Most people I know hate labels, particularly those LGBT community (and I apologize for using that label) are not motivated by hate or fear. They are just people who are seeking nothing more than to be treated as equals, just like anyone or minority. I would suggest that there is huge difference between the two and one should not be treated as the other.

[RHITMrB]

As was already so eloquently stated elsewhere:

"This is not the place for debating social change agendas."

Thank-you!

Then the moderators shouldn't take actions that push an agenda.

[richardman]

I would like every moderator to answer the question:

Why are people's stories make them uncomfortable.

And Ralph a specific response to his statement about Nazis and KKK and my images.

[Pere Casals]

Me too. I'm sorry to see this forum is just another one of those after all.

Oh... it is not about "gear only"...

I've been learning a lot here, this is not about gear:

http://www.largeformatphotography.in...bleaching-chem

http://www.largeformatphotography.in...Xtol-developer

http://www.largeformatphotography.in...41#post1344441

http://www.largeformatphotography.in...-reality/page8

[Oren Grad]

I do have one question on allowable subject matter. Kock et. al. are trying to get permits to mine uranium from the regions around Grand Canyon. Would such a subject be open for discussion? I do believe that denying such a topic such as the preservation of the very subject matter of many photographers is extremely important and warrants some attention on this site. Is that viewed as a political topic? If it is not then I would state that Richard should be allowed to post the thread.

No, it would not be allowed. Such a discussion would be highly likely to end up like this one, with some participants convinced that their opponents are evil, ad hominem attacks flying, and the tone of the debate getting nastier and more vicious with every turn.

[RHITMrB]

For what it's worth, I don't think anybody here is evil; at worst, just misguided and ignorant of the unintended consequences of their actions.

I still don't see why more overtly politicized threads (like Corran's) were not closed and this one was. The only conclusion I can come to is that there's something about this particular topic that bothers the moderators - in which case I ask, like richardman, why?

[Jmarmck]

No, it would not be allowed. Such a discussion would be highly likely to end up like this one, with some participants convinced that their opponents are evil, ad hominem attacks flying, and the tone of the debate getting nastier and more vicious with every turn.

Really?

Perhaps I am in the wrong place.

[richardman]

It is clear that I will not post images further on this forum. Just remember, these words that are so dangerous that need to be shut down, may be to preserve whatever mission this site has, are people's stories.

Innocent people's stories.

They just want to be who they are.

Whatever noble principles you think you hold, you are afraid of their stories.

RDenney, I specifically think that you are better than that.

[Pere Casals]

I would like every moderator to answer the question:

Why are people's stories make them uncomfortable.

And Ralph a specific response to his statement about Nazis and KKK and my images.

Because your society it is like this

Interesting:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy..._United_States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_v._Ziherl

Until a few years ago you could go to jail in Virginia because "dirty".

U.S. it is an amazing country, with some issues to solve...

This is something that your society has to solve, but not here... perhaps in the Lounge...