Camera Rigidity

[Erik S]

I am just moving to 4x5 and am in the process of choosing my first camera. My interest is landscape photography ranging from grand scenics to more intimate scenes. I shoot primarily in the mountain back country where there is rarely a wind free day, often it is very blustery. I've been looking at cameras and have been considering the Wista DX rosewood, the Wisner Expedition and the Ebony RW45E. I'm leaning towards the Ebony primarily because of its known rigidity and universal bellows, but I would sure like to avoid paying that much for a camera right now! On the other hand, I would hate to be out in the mountains shooting only to find that many of my shots are softened or ruined by a less rigid camera. Is the difference in rigidity between these cameras significant enough that I should worry about it? Should I really spend twice as much and get the Ebony??? Any thoughts to help clear this cluttered mind would be greatly appreciated!

[John D Gerndt]

Carry an umbrella and defeat the wind.

Now you can buy the camera you want.

Cheers,

[Will Strain]

The smaller metal field cameras - ie. Horseman FA/HD, Toyo and similar - tho limiting somewhat in movements, are very rugged and pretty darn rigid. If you don't need extreme wide angles, or very long lenses they might be a good option.

[Ted Harris]

Also look at the Walker Titan's. Absolutely rigid and near indestructible. You can easily use a 90mm with the standard bellows and a 75 too but with hardly any movement possible. You can go out to 360mm with ease and to 450 but with somewhat limited movements. If yo need to go wider you can switch to the wide angle bellows. I used an Ebony RW for a short but intensive trial in the field (mountains, woo0ds, lakes) and was less than satisfied with its performance with the 75mm lens, it was fine at full extension but in no way was it as precise or rigid as the Horseman mentioned above; the Walker seems to be. Remember though thst a lot of this is subjective and that I have a distinct preference for the 'feel' of metal cameras. Finally consider the Canhams. If you do decide on a Wisner you are well advised tom buy it from a dealer who has checked it out thoroughly.

I also question why you are looking at rosewood and ebony options when they add to the price but not the performance. The Wista too is a fine camera but more limited than the others discussed. If you are not using lenses longer than say 240 rigidity in the wind should not be a problem.

Good luck.

[Gem Singer]

Hi Eric,

The Ebony RW45 is an excellent choice. Since you seem to be concerned about the price, get the Mahogany wood version and save $300 plus some strain on your back from carrying the heavier weight Ebony wood "E" version. Be sure to equip the camera with the universal bellows. The Ebony RW45 is a little more expensive than the Wista and quite a bit less expensive than the Wisner Expedition. However, any of the three cameras you mentioned would be capable of doing the job that you described.

[Scott Rosenberg]

erik... i spent the last 5 months field testing 4x5 cameras. i am by no means an expert on the subject, but have had first hand experience with the following:

- linhof technika
- linhof technikardan
- ebony rw45
- ebony SV45U2
- arca swiss f-line
- canham dlc
- canham woodfield

it is my opinion that the wooden cameras are not nearly as rigid as the metal cameras - but they're not designed to be. they were designed to be small, light, and rigid enough to take great pictures... and on these points, they are wonderful tools. the ebony SV45U2 is a fine camera to be sure, probably the finest wooden camera i've ever used, but it weighs about the same as my arca swiss, though it is less bulky to pack.

i'll not go into a whole lot of detail here, as my dream camera may simply not work for you. suffice to say i ended up with an arca-swiss f-line metric and am completely satisfied. i do a lot of hiking with my gear, so weight and bulk were concerns for me, but the arca is not excessive in either case.

if you want specific information, feel free to email me: scott@srosenberg.com

[Eric Biggerstaff]

I think any of the cameras mentioned in this email string are great chocies. I have used my Zone VI and Tachihara in windy conditions and they have been fine, but the key is to block as much wind as possible, so the suggestion of an umbrella is a good one. Also, don't forget the importance of a solid tripod and head for keeping the camera steady in a wind.

www.ericbiggerstaff.com

[Alan Davenport]

I agree that you'll need an umbrella. There is no camera made with an open bellows, which will not shake in the wind; you need something to shield it.

[Ben Calwell]

Erik,

I have a Wista Rosewood, and it's a great camera for backpacking. Very light and easy to use. I bought mine in 1989, and it's still going great. However, from all that I've read, the Ebony RW45 would be considered a step up from the wooden Wista.

[Brian Ellis]

The principal culprits in strong wind are bellows extension, tripod, and connection between tripod and camera. Those things will solve or create wind problems more than the pure build quality of the camera or the materials used IMHO. I don't think the performance of any of the three cameras you mention in wind will be significantly different. If overall stability and precision in movements is important to you I think you should be looking at a Linhof Technika. I've owned two Ebony cameras, they were fine cameras but they weren't the equal of the two Technikas I've owned for sheer precision and stability (though they were better in some other respects such as ease of using back movements)..