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    Re: Is it OK to use material from the 1940's and 50's in my book?

    Quote Originally Posted by Iluvmyviewcam View Post
    I'd be using them for this book in a chapter on historical perspective of IR flash photography.

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    My book is a limited edition, hand-printed artists' book with a 50 book edition. Although the book would have a price on the cover it would be acquired as a donation to public institutions and museum ibraires.

    The only thing that would bother me for fair use is the price on the cover, even though it is not being sold. I also may sell some of the books someday. I don't donate all books in the edition. But as of now, I have no plans to sell my books. No one would pay enough that makes it worthwhile to hand-print books.

    Other than a price on the cover, the book would fit fair use. Both of the magazines I would like to pull from are on Google Books. I don't know if that means anything. I guess Google takes what it wants anyway, but their use is definitely for educational purposes.
    If your publishing it in a book then you DEFINITELY need to get permission to use them.

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    I'd be using a photo from an article.
    The copyright is probably with with the photographer not the magazine.
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    Re: Is it OK to use material from the 1940's and 50's in my book?

    Quote Originally Posted by Light Guru View Post
    The copyright is probably with with the photographer not the magazine.
    The OP hasn't told us whether the articles are portfolios - unlikely in Popular Mechanics, I'd think - or technical articles, most likely written for hire.

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    Re: Is it OK to use material from the 1940's and 50's in my book?

    Quote Originally Posted by Iluvmyviewcam View Post
    I'd be using a photo from an article.
    Yes you'll be violating copyright.

    Read this:
    http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ15a.pdf

    And this:
    http://copyright.gov/circs/circ09.pdf

    Copyright for a work for hire expires 95 years after publication. If it's not work for hire it is 70 years after the death of the creator.

    I don't believe your book is eligible for Fair Use, at least how you've described it, and especially with a price on the cover. And further, as I tell my students, Fair Use is ultimately decided in a court of law after you've been sued, so, if you want to contend it's Fair Use, be prepared to pay the price for defending your belief.

    *I'm not a lawyer, I've just worked with copyright a lot*
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    Re: Is it OK to use material from the 1940's and 50's in my book?

    It's all the fault of Mickey Mouse.

    He's a tough guy.
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    Re: Is it OK to use material from the 1940's and 50's in my book?

    Quote Originally Posted by Light Guru View Post
    If your publishing it in a book then you DEFINITELY need to get permission to use them.



    The copyright is probably with with the photographer not the magazine.
    Sounds like a hassle.

    What about taking photos of a copy of a magazine article if I own a copy of the magazine? I had heard I have proprietary rights to freely photograph my property. Or is that just for taking photos for selling it or personal use?

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    Re: Is it OK to use material from the 1940's and 50's in my book?

    Quote Originally Posted by Corran View Post
    Yes you'll be violating copyright.

    Read this:
    http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ15a.pdf

    And this:
    http://copyright.gov/circs/circ09.pdf

    Copyright for a work for hire expires 95 years after publication. If it's not work for hire it is 70 years after the death of the creator.

    I don't believe your book is eligible for Fair Use, at least how you've described it, and especially with a price on the cover. And further, as I tell my students, Fair Use is ultimately decided in a court of law after you've been sued, so, if you want to contend it's Fair Use, be prepared to pay the price for defending your belief.

    *I'm not a lawyer, I've just worked with copyright a lot*
    Thanks for the info. I guess I will have to pass on it. Too GD complex and iffy.

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    Re: Is it OK to use material from the 1940's and 50's in my book?

    That would be making a copy, the same as scanning our any other reproductive method, wouldn't it? It doesn't matter how it gets into the new work, it's that I can read it (view it if a photo), and it's the same as in the original.

    "reasonable person" (jury) viewpoint here.

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    What do you think about using an old Kodak photo from the 1940's?

    Since the original Kodak went bankrupt and liquidated, what do you think about using an old Kodak photo taken in the early 1940's for a book project?

    It was in a 1940's issue of Pop Photo, but as I looked closer I could see it was from a Kodak spread, so I don't think it would do any good to contact Pop Photo for permission. But the photo is in their magazine.

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    Re: What do you think about using an old Kodak photo from the 1940's?

    Did you not like the answers you received in this same thread?
    http://www.largeformatphotography.in...0-s-in-my-book

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    Re: What do you think about using an old Kodak photo from the 1940's?

    The Eastman Kodak Co. did indeed declare bankruptcy, but they have not been liquidated and are still very much in business. I would check the copyright laws, and meanwhile assume that EK's lawyers will aggressively their trademarks and copyrights.

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