Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 12

Thread: focusing for portraiture

  1. #1

    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Pennsylvania
    Posts
    287

    focusing for portraiture

    I'm just getting into large format black and white portraiture. I've taken a few 4x5 shots using strobes in a studio, and the results have been great! But I find that focusing sharply on the subject is either hit or miss. Either the subject is sharp or not. I'm shooting at 5.6 and 8 on my 210/5.6 for all my shots, and my strobes sync at 1/125. So my depth of field is vary narrow. And by the time I confirm focus, shut the lens, insert film, and pull dark slide, the subject could have moved slightly out of the plane of focus even if you ask them to be still. Does anyone have advice to help me? Thanks

  2. #2

    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Posts
    9,487

    focusing for portraiture

    And keep the profile of the nose inside the outline of the face, unless you want it to look bigger.

    I've done a lot of sitting 4x5 portraits and aim for f/16 as my optimal aperture, using a gridded medium Chimera Pro and 800 w/s of a Dynalite head. It still creates pleasing out of focus ears and shoulders, and if things are too sharp it is always easier to soften than the alternative...

    I also use a posing table and stool, and get very "controlling" with position, at least if they don't fall into place naturally.

  3. #3

    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Middletown, NJ - Land of the Living Dead
    Posts
    191

    focusing for portraiture

    As has already been said, f/5.6 and f/8 is way too open for most portraiture. I like to get down to at least f/16 with a 10" lens, even smaller with a 12" or 14".

  4. #4

    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Westport Island, Maine
    Posts
    1,236

    focusing for portraiture

    If you're clear setting expectations, people can hold still. When they're in position, tell them that they can't move very much. They won't.

    Then, focus on their eyes (I use a 210 at f8 routinely with 1/2 sec exposures, and most are sharp). I often focus on the window reflections in their eyes.

    Then, know your stuff and work quickly. Re-check focus once or twice, and certainly if you re-pose them. I usually do three poses and 12 sheets of film in about 10 minutes, max, all natural light. They're wonderful. Portraits are fun.
    Bruce Barlow
    author of "Finely Focused" and "Exercises in Photographic Composition"
    www.brucewbarlow.com

  5. #5
    Moderator Ralph Barker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 1998
    Location
    Rio Rancho, NM
    Posts
    5,036

    focusing for portraiture

    The easy solution is more light and a smaller aperture. I'd try to raise the f-stop to around f/22 to gain more DOF. Particularly with close-ups, it's a big advantage to have enough light to be able to control DOF as you want it. You might also find ways of giving your subjects more physical support. That might be an adjustable chair with a non-flexing back, and/or poses that suppress the natural tendency for people to weave to and fro a bit.

  6. #6

    focusing for portraiture

    Don't forget the old string-to-the-nose trick... it sounds stupid but it works, and it can bring a smile from the setter right before you snap the shutter.

  7. #7

    focusing for portraiture

    notwithsatnding the foregoing, you are correct, it is hit or miss given the typical focal lengths and apertures.

    for me the answer has never been to stop down, as i very much like (even extreme) shallow depth of field in posed portraits. the answer for me has been to (a) take multiple shots, (b) get very quick at loading the holder and taking the shot, and (c) as mentioned, really impress on subjects the necessity for sitting still AND letting me know when the have moved.

    don't stop down!!

  8. #8
    Whatever David A. Goldfarb's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2000
    Location
    Honolulu, Hawai'i
    Posts
    4,658

    focusing for portraiture

    When you focus look very carefully at the shadows on the face, particularly the nose shadow. You might look, for instance, where the nose shadow ends with respect to the top lip.

    I find that if the subject has moved slightly after I've inserted the filmholder, I can usually get the subject back in focus by adjusting the position of the head (or asking them to move their head) slightly, and when the shadow is just like it was when I focused, it's usually in focus.

  9. #9

    focusing for portraiture

    Wow, these are great tips. Thanks for all the thoughtful advice, everyone, and thanks for asking the question, Brian. I learned a lot.

  10. #10

    focusing for portraiture

    Brian, I seccond the reccomendation to use a faster film (unless you are allready using fast film or if you prefer slide film). Grain is just not an issue with 4x5 like with 35mm or even 6x6cm. This will allow you to stop down a bit more without having to invest in more expensive equipment.

    Another option is to use a rangefinder 4x5 like a crown graphic. Or even a 4x5 SLR like the graflex RB.

Similar Threads

  1. LF and ULF portraiture
    By Christopher Nisperos in forum Style & Technique
    Replies: 44
    Last Post: 6-Sep-2022, 01:32
  2. Linhof 4x5 RF for portraiture
    By Robb Reed in forum Style & Technique
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 10-Mar-2006, 17:13
  3. Portraiture with M7ii
    By Tony_5130 in forum Style & Technique
    Replies: 23
    Last Post: 18-Apr-2005, 11:38
  4. Developers for pt/pd portraiture
    By Wayne Crider in forum Darkroom: Film, Processing & Printing
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 19-Feb-2004, 10:59
  5. Portraiture Without a Shutter!?!
    By Josh Wand in forum Style & Technique
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 15-Apr-2000, 13:52

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •