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    ULF 7X17 What size Dark Cloth? What type? I'm new to daylight...

    I shoot primarily in studio or 4x5 outside with a flip open GG viewer.

    Now I want to go outside with 7X17 and only buy or make one dark cloth, not buy 2 when I figure out what's up. The ones I use inside are not going to work.

    I have looked at Harrison Silver Classic Dark Cloth on eBay and fortunately looked at B&H where they sell for less than eBay...

    Maybe medium is Ok or do I need a complete spinnaker? The large? http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...l/prm/alsVwDtl

    I like that it's waterproof, it rains often here, silver for sun and has weighted corners.

    Anybody use these?
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    Re: ULF 7X17 What size Dark Cloth? What type? I'm new to daylight...

    Based on the measurements of the large I must have the medium. Works perfectly on my phillips 7x17 the velcro side of the Harrison D cloth is somewhat cinched and when stretched fits nicely around the camera and has ample coverage for the 7x17 ground glass. Plus it is very light weight
    $100.00 for a D cloth seems crazy anyway


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    Re: ULF 7X17 What size Dark Cloth? What type? I'm new to daylight...

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Sherman View Post
    Based on the measurements of the large I must have the medium. Works perfectly on my phillips 7x17 the velcro side of the Harrison D cloth is somewhat cinched and when stretched fits nicely around the camera and has ample coverage for the 7x17 ground glass. Plus it is very light weight
    $100.00 for a D cloth seems crazy anyway
    Thanks Steve, window shopping.

    I like to research and get opinion. The big one does sound more like a hazard than a help. I used to working under dimmed lights with only my subject lit, now I'm turning on all the light and experimenting.

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    Re: ULF 7X17 What size Dark Cloth? What type? I'm new to daylight...

    Dark cloth jack is better choice.
    I bought the material(cloth) from a bellows maker to make my dark cloth jack for 12x20 camera.
    It's very light.
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    Re: ULF 7X17 What size Dark Cloth? What type? I'm new to daylight...

    Quote Originally Posted by pierre506 View Post
    Dark cloth jack is better choice.
    I bought the material(cloth) from a bellows maker to make my dark cloth jack for 12x20 camera.
    It's very light.
    Not sure what that is. I use a piece of torn common black cloth in studio, but it will blow away in a breeze. This is the windy city.

    There are no bellows makers for 1000 miles here.
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    Re: ULF 7X17 What size Dark Cloth? What type? I'm new to daylight...

    I'm not sure whether you realise it or not, but, with these bigger formats, you need to have your eyes further back when you look at the GG in its entirety. You'll need to take this in to account when considering the size of the dark cloth. It can become a pain when you then go to the loupe as the fabric can drape in front of your eyes.
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    Re: ULF 7X17 What size Dark Cloth? What type? I'm new to daylight...

    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Moe View Post
    Not sure what that is. I use a piece of torn common black cloth in studio, but it will blow away in a breeze. This is the windy city.

    There are no bellows makers for 1000 miles here.
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    This way, Randy.
    You may find a similar cloth around you.
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    Re: ULF 7X17 What size Dark Cloth? What type? I'm new to daylight...

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    This way, Randy.
    You may find a similar cloth around you.
    I have something like that for 8x10, it's silver and came with the camera, but will not work on this 7x17, I feel if I use something like that I will knock the rig over. I want a big flat cloth to cover bellows and head and I focus with my with my eyes right off the GG, it's the only way I can see. I stand back with glasses on and get over all composition. I'm kinda blind and it's not getting better, but why worry now? They let me drive a car...with goggles. I drive well, no crashes, no tickets.
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    Re: ULF 7X17 What size Dark Cloth? What type? I'm new to daylight...

    From all this, I think 4 x 4 feet or 1.2m sq.

    I'll try that.

    Thanks everyone.
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    Re: ULF 7X17 What size Dark Cloth? What type? I'm new to daylight...

    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Moe View Post
    From all this, I think 4 x 4 feet or 1.2m sq.
    Seems enough to cover the GG :-)
    For my 12x16", I use an old cloth with 100x140cm , and it feels too small (indoor it is ok).
    Not wide enough to see the whole image, and no chance to bring the edges together, at the bottom of the camera. But this is important to me, if I use a camera outdoor.

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