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    Shooters from wet and windy countries

    I'm currently based in Scotland, and looking to purchase my first LF camera.

    I have heard that getting a wooden camera is a bad idea for wetter countries. But what of countries that are regularly windy? Does this affect camera choice?

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    Drew Wiley
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    Re: Shooters from wet and windy countries

    Not necessarily. It all depends what the camera is made of and how the wood itself is sealed, and of course, how you care for the camera once you come back in from the weather. I'm here on the Calif coast where it's generally drippy with fog. Othefwise I'm out in all kinds of weather, including heavy rain in our Northwest mountains, dry dry deserts (humidity changes can be just as bad as one extreme or another), in mtn snowstorms frequently, right under waterfalls ... all with the same gear. My 8x10 Phillips is made from an epoxy-impregnated cherrywood/fiberglass composite largely immune to weather, and is exceptionally
    stable in our constant coastal wind. I use a Goretex darkcloth. My little Ebony 4x5 folder is mahogany, but I religiously reseal any worn areas of wood if needed with true marine sealers. But there are all kinds of pros and cons. Generally, more modern and more expensive cameras hold up better, but there are exceptions. The type of bellows material is also relevant. I wouldn't let weather dictate your choice of wooden folder versus metal monorail, but operational distinctions and preferences. I shoot both kinds of camera in bad weather.

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    Re: Shooters from wet and windy countries

    Should follow up that wind request. Get a good heavy wooden tripod with spike feet. More mass, the better. I use Ries. Yeah, I've got a couple of really nice
    carbon fiber tripods too, for when lightwt or compactness is the priority. But out in the wind, there is nothing like a good wooden one. I put the cameras right atop the tripod platform too - no "head" at all. That helps stabilize the rig in wind - less vibration risk. And you can have a little hook below the the platform, to hang a mesh bag full of rocks to add temporary extra weight if needed. Metal tripods are not convenient for a couple of reasons. If it's really cold, your skin can get frozen to them. They are also higher risk of literally getting the leg sections frozen up (with ice, or moisture swelling the seals). Even some wooden tripods have that risk. That's why I stick with tried-and-true Ries tripods. You kinda get what you pay for in that respect; or stated another way, any bargain is rarely a bargain in the long haul.

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    Re: Shooters from wet and windy countries

    The best wet weather camera I have ever used was a Walker Titan SF. It's made of ABS plastic and stainless steel and is basically weatherproof. I used it in rain and snow, in temperatures down to -20F without a complaint. From the camera that is, the photographer was less happy...If you hurry you can buy the last one Mike Walker is going to make. http://walkercameras.com/
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    Re: Shooters from wet and windy countries

    From a wet-and-windy shooter in drizzly Seattle...

    Plastic bags for my Tachi 4x5 for rain, sleet, and mist (i.e., a K.I.S.S. approach)

    And like Drew, a Ries tripod for the wind.

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    Re: Shooters from wet and windy countries

    Thanks for the replies guys. I have a mega heavy (yet metal) gitzo from about 300bc, but I would definitely like to go a little bit lighter if possible. It doesn't even seem to have a model number.

    The reason I asked about wind was mainly because of reading comments like 'takes the wind like a sail' - thought perhaps some camera types might be more prone to this.

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    Re: Shooters from wet and windy countries

    View cameras with extended bellows are subject to wind buffeting. I take along a big golf umbrella to act as a windbreak for the camera, the photographer, and sometimes the subject matter.
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    Re: Shooters from wet and windy countries

    Ahhh, thanks Maris - nice tip.

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    Re: Shooters from wet and windy countries

    I use a light disk for same-it also is useful for a reflector on occasion
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    Re: Shooters from wet and windy countries

    You can hang a bag full of locally collected rocks from the bottom of your tripod head to add weight. An empty canvas bag and some paracord doesn't add a lot of weight or bulk to your kit.
    That said, I prefer my Ries.
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