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    30 inch Artar in Copal 3

    On e bay... Shutter makes it f/16...

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    Re: 30 inch Artar in Copal 3

    Stop that.

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    Re: 30 inch Artar in Copal 3

    I have not seen a 30, I have 24 and 35. Have the 760 nikor.

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    Re: 30 inch Artar in Copal 3

    No need to let everyone know about it :-)

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    Re: 30 inch Artar in Copal 3

    Quote Originally Posted by karl french View Post
    No need to let everyone know about it :-)
    Yeah, I am looking at it but not sure if it will sharply cover 16x20 at infinity. The other thing is that you lose nearly a stop with the copal 3 over an Ilex 5.

    I can see why pros skip this ULF stuff altogether, who has time for these effing games!

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    Um, I think a 30" Artar will cover 16x20 at infinity without even breaking a sweat.
    You are making way too much of a fuss about it over a number of forums.
    Listen to those who know. Sandy and Hugo for example.
    Copal 3 would be just fine for me.

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    Re: 30 inch Artar in Copal 3

    Quote Originally Posted by karl french View Post
    Um, I think a 30" Artar will cover 16x20 at infinity without even breaking a sweat.
    You are making way too much of a fuss about it over a number of forums.
    Listen to those who know. Sandy and Hugo for example.
    Copal 3 would be just fine for me.
    I have been getting too much conflicting info, one guy on APUG says I will be disappointed with the sharpness of a 450 Nikkor on 16x20, another one PM'd and said it covers fine. It's all over the place, I got so much cryptic info from Dan Fromm basically saying to do my homework and no real answers from him at all. I PM'd Sandy and have not heard back from him.

    Hugo says that a 24" Artar will cover fine and be sharp, that is pretty much the FL I want anyway, but maybe I WILL bid on this 30" just to get something going, F12.5 to 16 is nothing in the grand scheme of things. The ideal set for me would indeed be a 450 and a 760, that would be all I need.

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    Re: 30 inch Artar in Copal 3

    At some point you have to make your own answers. "Try it" (or something similar), as Fred Picker used to say.

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    Re: 30 inch Artar in Copal 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Will Whitaker View Post
    At some point you have to make your own answers.
    Yeah, I am not entirely buying that.

    The lens of any camera is the heart of the camera, it should not be so damn hard to figure out a basic question like what is a good sharp landscape lens for 16x20 close to a normal field of view. Ask the same question of any other format and you will get the right answer within a page.

    I'm actually getting PISSED right now because I am starting to run into the same BS country club shit that one can easily experience on this forum in particular.

    THANKS!!!!

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    Re: 30 inch Artar in Copal 3

    At some point you're going to have to find out what YOU are satisfied with. There is a wealth of knowledge from the posters you mentioned. What one photographer is satisfied with for contact or alt printing may not make you happy for the project you're interested. But you're in the ballpark with a group of lenses that may work. And that's pretty small with 16x20. You have a whole bunch of other things to worry about in terms of camera, tripod, holders, film, transport, processing, wind, physical and spiritual motivation and last but not least the will of the Muses.

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