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    Re: Request clarification of large format.

    And what of the sub-35mm dslr's adapted to the back of a 4x5 with multiple frames stitched together... Large format?
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    Re: Request clarification of large format.

    This has been addressed many times, only a few times in my short time here, but I am pretty certain that my 2x3 View camera images are banned if I mention I used that size camera. I was once admonished to not post those images in the general LF site, but to move them to Tiny Format. I do not recall which moderator told me that.

    I mean my 2X3 Speeder, my Linhof Color Kardan 6X9 and my...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirk Gittings View Post
    I think you are wrong Randy...........at least I think you would have been wrong when I was a moderator.

    "We do, however, allow what would otherwise be considered "medium format" sizes, IF exposed in a view camera (e.g. with a roll-film adapter), technical, or old-style press camera (e.g. the various Graphic cameras)."
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    Re: Request clarification of large format.

    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Moe View Post
    This has been addressed many times, only a few times in my short time here, but I am pretty certain that my 2x3 View camera images are banned if I mention I used that size camera. I was once admonished to not post those images in the general LF site, but to move them to Tiny Format. I do not recall which moderator told me that.

    I mean my 2X3 Speeder, my Linhof Color Kardan 6X9 and my...
    I believe Kirk is right on this. If you look at the large format home page you will see articles on 2X3 and 6X9 view cameras/technical cameras, and lenses. The guidelines clearly state.

    "We do, however, allow what would otherwise be considered "medium format" sizes, IF exposed in a view camera (e.g. with a roll-film adapter), technical, or old-style press camera (e.g. the various Graphic cameras)."

    That clearly applies to film, and if your posts have been banned for this reason the moderator erred IMO.

    What is not clear to me whether the use of a digital device in combination with a view camera or technical camera is also considered large format "for this forum."

    None of this has any impact on what I will personally use in my work, but clarification as to what can be discussed in the main forums is needed IMO.

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    Re: Request clarification of large format.

    Just an opinion, Sandy. But because this uses basic techniques just like in a view camera, and because it is often important to weigh one particular form of capture versus another in terms of practicality using analogous camera equipment, it would just seem to make sense to include that kind of discussion somewhere on this
    forum for the benefit of others with similar needs. It's not like a DLSR discussion. But the moderators draw the line. I don't see any difference between what this
    amounts to and what someone like me might do when I travel with both 4x5 sheet film holders and 6x9 roll film holders for the same view camera.

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    Re: Request clarification of large format.

    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Moe View Post
    I think our definition is a frustrating to those of us who shoot 2-1/4 X 3-3/4 Sheet film in a 2 X 3 View camera. I think of it as LF and the forum does not.
    Where does one get 2 1/4x 3/1/4 sheet film? (I have one carefully apportioned box of HP5+ left in the freezer.)
    Thanks,
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    Re: Request clarification of large format.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill_1856 View Post
    Where does one get 2 1/4x 3/1/4 sheet film?...
    As part of the annual Ilford special sizes order program. See attached list.

    Unfortunately, the cutoff for this year's orders was June 27, with deliveries to occur in the next month or six weeks. So, unless you find a dealer that ordered extra boxes to hold and sell, you're out of luck until next year.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Ilford 2014 special order list.pdf  

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    Re: Request clarification of large format.

    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Moe View Post
    This has been addressed many times, only a few times in my short time here, but I am pretty certain that my 2x3 View camera images are banned if I mention I used that size camera. I was once admonished to not post those images in the general LF site, but to move them to Tiny Format. I do not recall which moderator told me that.

    I mean my 2X3 Speeder, my Linhof Color Kardan 6X9 and my...
    "We do, however, allow what would otherwise be considered "medium format" sizes, IF exposed in a view camera (e.g. with a roll-film adapter), technical, or old-style press camera (e.g. the various Graphic cameras)."
    They never got removed or challenged by me. I was part of trying to refine this definition that resulted in the phrasing above and by my understanding yours would pass. Note it does not say if exposed in 4x5 or larger VC.
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    Re: Request clarification of large format.

    Kirk is correct in his interpretation of the current rules. The exception for what would otherwise be considered "medium format" press, technical and view cameras was an historical accommodation for those film formats exposed in those cameras, and was not intended to be an extension of "large format" per se.

    It does, however, create confusion, particularly if extended to digital capture devices attached to a view camera designed for the exposure of 4x5 or larger film. So, I would also agree with Sandy that a clarification is in order. I'll raise the question within the moderator group.

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    Re: Request clarification of large format.

    Freestyle stocks both Arista and Ilford. Here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill_1856 View Post
    Where does one get 2 1/4x 3/1/4 sheet film? (I have one carefully apportioned box of HP5+ left in the freezer.)
    Thanks,
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    Re: Request clarification of large format.

    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Moe View Post
    Freestyle stocks both Arista and Ilford. Here.
    Thanks, Randy.
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