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    Re: Practical Resource on Movements for Beginner

    See if you can find a copy of The View Camera-Operations and Techniques by Harvey Shaman (ISBN 0-8174-0598-4). My copy was published in 1977 by Amphoto.

    It's a well-written book that is profusely illustrated.

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    Re: Practical Resource on Movements for Beginner

    Fred Newman, The View Camera Store, has some resources on the VCS website…worth a look.
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    Re: Practical Resource on Movements for Beginner

    There have been some good resources listed, and any will work well. But the big learning will come when you buy a camera with lots of movements front and rear, and put them to use. Then you'll start to understand, oh, this does this and that does that, I can compromise here or I can compromise there, I can use these movements for this and those for that...

    I'd suggest a good cheap 4x5 monorail, Toyo, Calumet, Cambo, even an old Graflex monorail. They're dirt cheap right now, sturdy and tons of movements. Trying to learn camera movements from a book is like trying to learn to drive a car from a book. The information is there, but you're not really learning much til you get behind the wheel...
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    Re: Practical Resource on Movements for Beginner

    Here's an interesting one from Evergreen State College in Olympia, WA. It appears that it is possible to check out a Calumet view camera kit if you are a student and this is the usage manual which comes with the camera. You have to pass a proficiency test on the camera before you can have it. Loading it, exposing it, movements with it...

    http://www.evergreen.edu/medialoan/docs/photo_4x5.pdf

    Here's a manual on the Calumet from Butkus.org It is what Calumet paced with their CC400 camera and would be a good primer on view camera use:

    http://www.butkus.org/chinon/calumet...alumet_4x5.htm

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    Re: Practical Resource on Movements for Beginner

    Find another LF photographer in your home town and go shooting with him for a morning... Anyone experienced should be able to explain he whole thing in about 10 minutes, or certainly plenty to get you started.

    We have a Meetup group out here in the Bay Area that goes shooting together once every month or so, and you can see beginners to experts and all sorts of cameras, lenses, light meters and everything else. Very nice group of people, they're all friendly and all happy to show you how their Chamonix does it vs the Ebony, etc.

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    Re: Practical Resource on Movements for Beginner

    Quote Originally Posted by Preston View Post
    See if you can find a copy of The View Camera-Operations and Techniques by Harvey Shaman (ISBN 0-8174-0598-4). My copy was published in 1977 by Amphoto.

    It's a well-written book that is profusely illustrated.

    --P
    I'll have to see about locating a copy here in town, thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Sawin View Post
    Fred Newman, The View Camera Store, has some resources on the VCS website…worth a look.
    I actually found a few of his videos on YouTube a couple weeks ago, they were very helpful. Good advice there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Sawyer View Post
    There have been some good resources listed, and any will work well. But the big learning will come when you buy a camera with lots of movements front and rear, and put them to use. Then you'll start to understand, oh, this does this and that does that, I can compromise here or I can compromise there, I can use these movements for this and those for that...

    I'd suggest a good cheap 4x5 monorail, Toyo, Calumet, Cambo, even an old Graflex monorail. They're dirt cheap right now, sturdy and tons of movements. Trying to learn camera movements from a book is like trying to learn to drive a car from a book. The information is there, but you're not really learning much til you get behind the wheel...
    That's definitely my most trustworthy method of learning, but I'm still trying to determine if my application is more big rig or sportscar, hence the reading stage for now. Thanks for the camera suggestions though!

    Quote Originally Posted by jbenedict View Post
    Here's an interesting one from Evergreen State College in Olympia, WA. It appears that it is possible to check out a Calumet view camera kit if you are a student and this is the usage manual which comes with the camera. You have to pass a proficiency test on the camera before you can have it. Loading it, exposing it, movements with it...

    http://www.evergreen.edu/medialoan/docs/photo_4x5.pdf

    Here's a manual on the Calumet from Butkus.org It is what Calumet paced with their CC400 camera and would be a good primer on view camera use:

    http://www.butkus.org/chinon/calumet...alumet_4x5.htm
    Those are interesting resources, thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lenny Eiger View Post
    Find another LF photographer in your home town and go shooting with him for a morning... Anyone experienced should be able to explain he whole thing in about 10 minutes, or certainly plenty to get you started.

    We have a Meetup group out here in the Bay Area that goes shooting together once every month or so, and you can see beginners to experts and all sorts of cameras, lenses, light meters and everything else. Very nice group of people, they're all friendly and all happy to show you how their Chamonix does it vs the Ebony, etc.

    Good luck,

    Lenny
    I'm still hunting around to see if I can find some LF photographers here in town. Good way to start by observing real practical application in the field, thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottPhotoCo View Post
    This is very helpful and a bit more like what I was looking for in my OP, thanks man!

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    Re: Practical Resource on Movements for Beginner

    Quote Originally Posted by christian.rudman View Post
    snip...

    I'm still hunting around to see if I can find some LF photographers here in town. Good way to start by observing real practical application in the field, thanks!

    ...snip
    There is a Austin meetup group call Texas Large Format Photography but their last meeting was held in April.

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