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    E6 and expert drums-why curled film?

    It seems that kodak and most fuji films (except velvia 100) stay curled when I pull them from my expert drums (4x5 and 8x10). This makes it tough to give them the final rinse treatment not to mention taking up too much real estate in my drying cabinet. I do all my steps (including washing) in the drum at 100 degrees, with the final rinse done in a tray. How do those of you doing e6 in expert drums deal with this?
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    Re: E6 and expert drums-why curled film?

    c'mon!

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    Re: E6 and expert drums-why curled film?

    How bad is the curl ?
    Haven't had that happen when I processed Ektachrome, Velvia, and Provia in a expert drum, are you sure you're at 90 - 100F ?

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    Re: E6 and expert drums-why curled film?

    on 4x5 the middle of the sheet sticks up about an inch if laid flat. On 8x10 they curl even worse when drying. My drying cabinet has a 150w bulb at the bottom (4ft from the film). And yes, every step is 100 degrees. I pull them from the drum, they stay that shape.


    btw, I'm using kodak chemicals.

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    Re: E6 and expert drums-why curled film?

    Just wondering if you're using a stockpiled Kodak 5 liter kit or are you breaking down the replenishing chems ?

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    Re: E6 and expert drums-why curled film?

    Odd problem Vinny, I can't imagine why it's happening. If no one offers an easy solution you might try putting your film in a deep tray of 100 degree water for several minutes before the final rinse/stabilizer to see if that won't release some of the memory from the tank curl and then proceed with the final step. Just a thought...

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    Re: E6 and expert drums-why curled film?

    Jim, on my last 5L kit.
    Erik, I'll try that. I figured this was a common issue due to the high temps involved. Damn it.

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    Re: E6 and expert drums-why curled film?

    I would suggest washing the film outside of the tank and you could dry the film in stainless steel hangers.

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    Re: E6 and expert drums-why curled film?

    Weird. I process Fujichrome (RAP, RDPIII, RVP50) in the Fuji E6 5L kit and 3010 and they do not curl at all. The plastic support is much much stronger than the emulsion; they don't even curl while drying like 120 E6 does.

    If your plastic support is curling, I can only imagine that you're incredibly overheating it, maybe during wash?

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    Re: E6 and expert drums-why curled film?

    So it's not a chem mix issue if you're following the 5L kit instructions, iirc E6 temp range is 90 -100, I'd check the accuracy of your thermometers but that might not be the case if your developer temps are measured with the same thermometer. I looked thru the Kodak lit on e6 and it's mostly image related issues. Other than what polyglot said about excessive temps is the film really old ?

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