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    Re: Collodion - Wet Plate Images

    Quote Originally Posted by carbo73 View Post
    I've been preparing to make collodion plates for almost a year, and a couple of months ago I started making plates. First in 4x5 (with a Speed Graphic), then in 5x7/13x18 with a couple of cameras (a Gundlach Korona View and a German reisekamera made by Konrad Seitz in Nürnberg. I hope to jump up to 18x24 with a Soviet FK made in Leningrad I have. I've been using only Old Workhorse premixed collodion by Franalog in Germany. By now I've even manufactured myself a dark box out of a plastic container, which barely has room for 4x5 only plates.

    Here are some of my plates:

    First wet plate collodion by SBA73, en Flickr

    Soviet triple clone by SBA73, en Flickr

    Keep still by SBA73, en Flickr

    To my father by SBA73, en Flickr
    Great results! They all capture the atmosphere of the old wet plate technique.
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    Re: Collodion - Wet Plate Images

    A couple more wet plates, now experimenting with inside UV led light and both with the MD7 developer by Mammoth.
    Camera: Graflex Speed Graphic 4x5
    Lens: Kodak Anastigmaf f4.5
    Collodion: Franalog Old Workhorse
    Developer: Mammuth MD7

    Col·lodió d'interior / UV wet plate by SBA73, en Flickr

    Les Damm de joventut / Beers of my youth by SBA73, en Flickr

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    Re: Collodion - Wet Plate Images



    From a 5x7 inch wet plate collodion negative (on glass). Schneider Symmar lens used, not quite wide open.
    Old Workhorse developed with UVP copper developer 1:2 for 60 seconds.

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    Re: Collodion - Wet Plate Images

    Portrait of my son at the studio. Rodenstock 210 App-Sironar W. Quinn's Collodion formula on Aluminum, Osterman Developer Formula and KCN for the fix.



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    Re: Collodion - Wet Plate Images

    Christopher,

    In looking at your portrait image and comparing to a half dozen above it, yours is much darker.

    Is this due to the emulsion mix or is it exposure?

    Saw a show of 30 or so wet plates by Shane Balkowitsch a few weeks ago. Native Americans on black glass plates. Most pretty clean with few flow marks or glitches. But the whole batch was very dark. A number difficult to see well in the lighting at the gallery. Did not look like "style" but like they all needed more exposure.

    Not doing Wet Plate but have seen a bunch and do wonder when all of a photographers work is so dark. Is it a deliberate choice? Lack of experience or training? The emulsion mix? Or underexposure?
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    Like!

    Interesting light especially the subtle glow around head

    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher Barrett View Post
    Portrait of my son at the studio. Rodenstock 210 App-Sironar W. Quinn's Collodion formula on Aluminum, Osterman Developer Formula and KCN for the fix.


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    Re: Collodion - Wet Plate Images

    Willie, I try to match my scans to the actual plates (using a print viewing booth). I’ve measured the density of blown out hilights on my plates at around 0.78. So, yeah wet plate collodion can easily be 2 stops darker than a print on paper. I imagine that many of the digital representations of plates posted here have been ‘normalized’.

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    Re: Collodion - Wet Plate Images

    Quote Originally Posted by Willie View Post
    Christopher,

    In looking at your portrait image and comparing to a half dozen above it, yours is much darker.

    Is this due to the emulsion mix or is it exposure?

    Saw a show of 30 or so wet plates by Shane Balkowitsch a few weeks ago. Native Americans on black glass plates. Most pretty clean with few flow marks or glitches. But the whole batch was very dark. A number difficult to see well in the lighting at the gallery. Did not look like "style" but like they all needed more exposure.

    Not doing Wet Plate but have seen a bunch and do wonder when all of a photographers work is so dark. Is it a deliberate choice? Lack of experience or training? The emulsion mix? Or underexposure?
    Can't speak for anyone else but I can answer based off my practice: There's two factors that lead to a lot of plates looking pretty dark. First, wet plates take a shocking amount of light to expose. Their sensitivity is usually somewhere between ISO 0.1 and 0.5 for "fast" collodion. So a lot of people simply don't have enough light or realize how long to leave the shutter open because it seems absurd. Second, they're absurdly contrasty. For portraits, to achieve a "normal" look, I find that I need about 2 tenths (0.2) of a stop of difference between the highlight side and the shadow side of the face or else I lose detail in one or the other. On film, I usually go about 1.5 stops difference for the same look. This leads to a lot of people lighting with a normal contrast range, exposing for the highlights, and resulting in really dark shadows. My plates got much better when I finally realized that a 0.1 to 0.2 stop change in strobe power was going to be the difference between a reasonable looking image and a failure.

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    Re: Collodion - Wet Plate Images

    La Taiadella, Catalunya, agost 2023 by Pau Martín, on Flickr

    This is 8x10 tintype, using Jacobson's negative collodion developed with Osterman's standard developer formula. I took it to check the exposure, before shooting some negatives. Fixed with Ilford rapid fixer. The lens was a Fujinon A 300, I think. The place is the chapel at La Taiadella, a XIII century "masia", a fortified farmhouse in Catalonia. Sorry for the funcky colors. The plate is warmer than it looks here.
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    La Taiadella, Catalunya. Agost 2023. by Pau Martín, on Flickr

    This is 8x10 tintype. Like the previous one, I took it to check the exposure. Jacobson's negative collodion with Osterman's standard developer. The lens is an unbranded brass lens, around 215mm, f7, with a nice engraving saying "Verre de Jena". The picture was taken at f22, 6sec. Sorry for the poor iphone pic. The place is La Taiadella, a XIII century "masia" (a fortified farmhouse), which is still inhabited. The country, Catalonia.
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