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I also think it's folly to just dismiss those of us who strip the film as "careless film handlers."
I agree. I may have mentioned this earlier, but I enlarged a stripped and unstrapped negative. The stripped negative had an edge in sharpness. So stripping does serve a purpose other than getting rid of scratches. The main problem was the blue base of the film triggering the high contrast emulsion in the paper, resulting in longer printing times. Since I contact print in carbon and kallitype, I do not strip and it is not an issue for me, unless I want to make a digital negative. Then I'll strip... All this talk about stripping feels awkward...:)
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We could change the topic from stripping to Pole Dancing. Something I have never tried, but at my age it could be quite the show.
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Speaking of pole dancing, a very young PE teacher at the high school I teach at tried to introduce pole dancing to her girls' fitness class. Needless to say, it never got off the ground (insert joke here)
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Andrew O'Neill
Speaking of pole dancing, a very young PE teacher at the high school I teach at tried to introduce pole dancing to her girls' fitness class. Needless to say, it never got off the ground (insert joke here)
Did he demonstrate what he wanted?
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2x3 CSG, two stuck together in the tank, the background is featureless, not with this actually interesting curve of undeveloped film...
I have more drying. These are self shot, with long cable release, studio flash. The lens cracked and went up in smoke.
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lol
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Jim Fitzgerald
love the glowon the pen!
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Getting "there" quite fast, master Randy :)
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today in park.. 8x10 Kodak xray, 14 inch Heliar (kirka 1913) wide open, 3" packard shutter in "instant" mode. No filters.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8382/8...7ba162cc_b.jpg
Scan-130406-0010www by Sergei Rodionov, on Flickr
Morale - i need to find bloody yellow-green in 82mm ... time to browse ebay for chineese filters again..
(oh its 7:30 in 1+100 Adonal (aka Rodinal) - opened fresh bottle)
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Thanks, but not happy yet,
I put it on facebook, they like it there.
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Getting "there" quite fast, master Randy :)
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Sergei, Next I will try R09 1/100 at 7:30, may as well copy the best. And I got a fresh bottle, never tried it.
I need to burn up this Ilfosol-3 on 35 mm, I hate that stuff, goes bad way too fast.
Soon, I want to mix all own, out of simple chems. D23, citrus, water...
Using Ken Lee's advice, no point in reinventing the wheel, when I can't drive...
http://www.kenleegallery.com/html/tech/D-23.php
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I did my own methol-hydrochinon ( whatever spelling is) developer when i was teen, from aero-photography lab chems . I never ever want to do it again :)
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I don't want exotic, but when I took a college darkroom course 15 years ago the very DIY instructor had giant buckets of raw chems under giant sinks. He wrote the standard formula on the inside of the trays. I always made fresh and would usually do 12 hour sessions. I am just now getting back into wet work and I am new to anything bigger than 35mm. My darkroom stalled over winter and I need to get it done, before summer. I need to hurry...
Now I am in the bathroom, it is a big bathroom, but my new darkroom will be very big. I am actually making the entire loft light tight. My cave. :)
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I did my own methol-girdochinon ( whatever spelling is) developer when i was teen, from aero-photography lab chems . I never ever want to do it again :)
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He was a she, and no it never got off the ground...
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so, I am used to can developing under full light and use a iPod app for timer, not such a good idea for tray processing, it rang and lit up anyway...
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guys, i'm thinking of purchasing xray film this week but i'm a bit anxious about my film getting toast before it gets here. anyone from overseas had tried ordering these film from the US without having a problem? i will send my films to my friend in the us and he will ship the film to me. quite a lot of work but that's my option right now. what do you think guys?
thank you!
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Today. Overcast, 14 inch heliar, packard shutter, no filter. Kodak 8x10 CSG , 1+100 Rodinal, 7:30m
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8540/8...3a6fe54b_b.jpg
Scan-130407-0001www by Sergei Rodionov, on Flickr
(scratched a bit.. easy to fix.. i need better tank loading technique)
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Better exposure. CSG cut to 5X7 with scratches, water drops, dust and moire. My AN glass is either too big or too small. I may go back to 2X3, easier to do 8 sheets in a tank.
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mmm, image size still the same, tomorrow I will try the URL upload...
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cool tone variation in beard (or just beard envy.. mine is darn itchy whenever i am trying to get it "real") :)
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cool tone variation in beard (or just beard envy.. mine is darn itchy whenever i am trying to get it "real") :)
I need a model ASAP. I took a grab shoot of a friend but it didn't come out. :(
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so, I am used to can developing under full light and use a iPod app for timer, not such a good idea for tray processing, it rang and lit up anyway...
Randy you can use app from digitaltruth guys (Massive DevChart). Its got recipies , so you can customize whatever you do, keep record of attempts & etc and it can do usual white screen + safe green or red light.
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SergeiR
Randy you can use app from digitaltruth guys (Massive DevChart). Its got recipies , so you can customize whatever you do, keep record of attempts & etc and it can do usual white screen + safe green or red light.
I do have Mas Dev. It's a nice App. Thanks!
I keep records. But I do make mistakes. I am trying to not do to much PS. My local group of imagists prefer a raw damaged look. Got to fit in! I really do not enjoy endless PS. I like APUG's ideals to not post heavy PS work. But I don't know where it stops with this scanning business!
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No i meant it will help with whole "rang and lit up" :)
As of post.. *sighs*.. Dont get me started.. IMHO sitting there with D&B in photoshop is hell of the lot less straining than sitting with wands, swabs and splashing acid and bleach ;)
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I agree with you Sergei on PS.
And I will make sure that phone is not in the darkroom, I do not like distractions.
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No i meant it will help with whole "rang and lit up" :)
As of post.. *sighs*.. Dont get me started.. IMHO sitting there with D&B in photoshop is hell of the lot less straining than sitting with wands, swabs and splashing acid and bleach ;)
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never cut up anything big. I do have some 14x36 though!
jim you need to consider making an adequate camera for that 14 x 36 film:)
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Dave at one time Tri and I were considering it.Even went so far as checking out coverage for lenses. We found severalthat did! Then reality truck. How do you keep the film flat? A vacuum holder.... not thanks. Goes against my KISS principals.
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Jim, if your rule is to not cut down big sheets, why the big canvas?
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Dave at one time Tri and I were considering it.Even went so far as checking out coverage for lenses. We found severalthat did! Then reality truck. How do you keep the film flat? A vacuum holder.... not thanks. Goes against my KISS principals.
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I've done about 100 sheets of 8x10, all in a BTZS tube. I don't even try to not scratch the rear emulsion when I put it in, but I simply strip that image with bleach. I don't know why some are so afraid of the stripping. It takes me 30 seconds with bleach diluted 1:1 with water. Other than when I do something dumb, I don't have any scratches on the front emulsion.
I would prefer to use 8x10 BTZS tubes also. Do you strip before fixing? after washing? (Sorry if this has been described already, I am still working my way through this monster thread!)
Thanks, Mike
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So many threads to put this image in but I did shoot it on Blue sensitive half speed. 8x10 carbon transfer print. "Listen"
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Strip after I think. I've never done it but that is what you do.
Randy, a 14x17 carbon print from x-ray film is something to see as is a 14x17 carbon transfer portrait from x-ray film. I'm a contact printer and one who does not use a digital workflow at all. My biggest canvass is 14x17 currently!!
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we really need a nice button
'LIKE'
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Ok, good to know. Tonight I need to fix my contact printer's new glass, it's in another thread.
I have a long way to go to and little time left, hopefully I get another 20 years to finally make a nice image!
Hope springs eternal.
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Strip after I think. I've never done it but that is what you do.
Randy, a 14x17 carbon print from x-ray film is something to see as is a 14x17 carbon transfer portrait from x-ray film. I'm a contact printer and one who does not use a digital workflow at all. My biggest canvass is 14x17 currently!!
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Yes, strip after developing/fixing/washing. It's the final step. Okay well I wash again of course.
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Randy, thanks. It is all about the print for me. I developed this in some old D-76 in the dip and dunk tank in the red light. The carbon print is really beautiful in the flesh.
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Yes, while many of us have good monitors, nothing compares to a real print and never will. imho
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Randy, thanks. It is all about the print for me. I developed this in some old D-76 in the dip and dunk tank in the red light. The carbon print is really beautiful in the flesh.
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EdWorkman
Xray film is not panchromatic.
Your eyes will tell you, under a red safelite, if indeed there is any difference at all.
And if you use a tent or change bag- it doesn't matter- that's why no notches
So you can develop and handle under red safelite?
(Sorry this is all new to me)
Cheers
Mike
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Mike, yes. Load and unload film in the red light and do the entire developing process in the red light. Now because the film has emulsion on both sides you need to be careful loading and unloading the film. If you use a tray to develop do one sheet at a time and make sure it has a flat bottom. The ridges will show through if you don't. I use tanks for my 8x10's and do four sheets at a time. Just about any developer works. Water stop and fix like normal.
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... and strip after you have dried the film.
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So many threads to put this image in but I did shoot it on Blue sensitive half speed. 8x10 carbon transfer print. "Listen"
Very nice, Jim!
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Lee, thanks. I have a system that works for me. What using x-ray film is all about is finding your system that works for you.
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X-Ray film processor...
Found this, honest I was not looking for it. I am 2000 miles from Portland, if I was there I would check it out.
Anybody know anything about these?
http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/pho/3733596882.html
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from last night, and b/c i feel like crossposting a bit ;))
8x10 Kodak CSG.
14 inch heliar at about f11 (its damn hard to figure it out when lights in studio are shut down)
8m in 1+100 Adonal/Rodinal.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8124/8...560c1d3e_c.jpg
Scan-130409-0002www by Sergei Rodionov, on Flickr
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anyone could answer my question? :D
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tenderobject,
Have the film sent by fedex. I'm sure if you send it snail mail, it will be xrayed.
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how about USPS priority mail? would it be xrayed? yikes!
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tenderobject,
Have the film sent by fedex. I'm sure if you send it snail mail, it will be xrayed.
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Inside the USA, film seems fairly safe from the X-Rays, but we have no way of knowing what happens where you are at.
Perhaps make a small test order.
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how about USPS priority mail? would it be xrayed? yikes!
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I will try to get a box. I had some 120 films and 1 box 4x5 sent by my friend to me here (Iran) but i haven't checked the films yet. I'll test a roll/sheet hopefully this week. Hopefully it's all fine :(
How i wish i could get some X-ray films here.
By the way, Anyone tried the Kodak Xray Films from CXS? The green HRT from fuji is out of stock. Any other Xray films you could recommed? I will do a lot of landscape and a few Portraits for it.
Thanks guys! Pardon, I haven't read all these xray films threads. I will give it some time this week.
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Randy Moe
Inside the USA, film seems fairly safe from the X-Rays, but we have no way of knowing what happens where you are at.
Perhaps make a small test order.
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I have only very recently started using Kodak CSG green from CXS. Very fast delivery here, Chicago. Stuff works fine, but I need to learn much more. I have cut it up into 2x3 and 5x7 for experimenting.
Shoot a sheet of 4x5 and see if it is OK. Heck, don't shoot it, just process it without exposing it and it should be clear, if it's not clear it may have been rayed...fogging I think is the term.
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tenderobject
I will try to get a box. I had some 120 films and 1 box 4x5 sent by my friend to me here (Iran) but i haven't checked the films yet. I'll test a roll/sheet hopefully this week. Hopefully it's all fine :(
How i wish i could get some X-ray films here.
By the way, Anyone tried the Kodak Xray Films from CXS? The green HRT from fuji is out of stock. Any other Xray films you could recommed? I will do a lot of landscape and a few Portraits for it.
Thanks guys! Pardon, I haven't read all these xray films threads. I will give it some time this week.
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There are a lot of kinds in their website i don't know which to choose. I like the Green HRT by Fuji. There is a few boxes on Ebay. I will get one from her. CXS run out of the 8x10 already so i'm not sure if there are other kinds that are the same with Green HRT. I love the images made by Corran, Sergeir and others. I hope i could make something like that soon!
About the 4x5 sheet. I'll try to process it tonight. I'll just put it in the developer then fix it? I haven't done this before. :D
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Randy Moe
I have only very recently started using Kodak CSG green from CXS. Very fast delivery here, Chicago. Stuff works fine, but I need to learn much more. I have cut it up into 2x3 and 5x7 for experimenting.
Shoot a sheet of 4x5 and see if it is OK. Heck, don't shoot it, just process it without exposing it and it should be clear, if it's not clear it may have been rayed...fogging I think is the term.