Use of X-ray film: technical discussion with example images

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...523e2a72_z.jpgHRU Fixing Step Dental Clips 1 by Nokton48, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...e48dc3e5_z.jpgHRU Wash Step Dental Clips 2 by Nokton48, on Flickr

The white smooth Cesco trays are available in all sizes I easily bought mine from B&H. These are 8x10 and I also bought 5x7s.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...ping_Tray.html

In the four posted directly above by me ^^^ absolutely no scratches anywhere, I use the dental clips I got on Ebay. It keeps the 4x5 sheets (I do two at a time) from sliding around in the tray, and keeps the sheets off the bottom of the tray. I use Paterson print forceps to carefully move the sheets between trays. If I am not diligent there will be scratches! I have found that ANY contact with ANYTHING will cause a scratch. The emulsion is super thin and comes off if there is ANY contact. I can scrape it off with my fingernail.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/12-DENTAL-X...53.m2749.l2649

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...31be3f5e_z.jpgHRU Dry Step Dental Clips 3 by Nokton48, on Flickr

After the photoflo, I CAREFULLY move the dental clips to the corners of the sheets, so that the water drains off as it should.

This method works and I have ZERO scratched film if I am super careful. The key is not to touch it at all while it is wet.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...1f8e44b4_z.jpgHRU Makiflex Std Mic-X 240 f4.5 Tele-Arton by Nokton48, on Flickr

Plaubel Makiflex Standard camera 240mm F5.5 chrome barrel mount Schneider Tele-Arton at F22. One pop of Broncolor Pulso C171 monolight strobe with Broncolor Pulso Beauty Dish. No fill. 8x10 Fuji HR-U XRay film cut into 4x5s straight Microdol-X replenished in a tray development by inspection under custom red light. 4x5 Lisco Regal holder. 8x10 RC Aristo #2 Multigrade dev Omega DII with diffusion Omegalite head.

I bet those subdermal freckles are nearly invisible to the naked eye. That's one of the things I love about this film.

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Hey folks,

I've been away from this forum for a long time (a year?) because life got in the way. But I'm still planning to build a 14x17 camera, with the intent of using x-ray film. I have three lenses, a shutter I made, bellows, and all the material to make the camera itself. I hope to make the thing over the winter, and am actually putting off cleaning/re-arranging my workshop by writing this post.

Here's my question: Since I last visited, has there been any consensus on a particularly good film -- or few films -- to use, which is available in 14x17? I mean, like some which are less prone to scratching, for example. Or, short of recommendations for particular films, maybe updated info on some, like details on film speed, etc.

I read the entire thread last year, looking for all the information I could find. At the time, I saw lots of folks ask questions, and some folks would respond 'read the thread'. I plan to do that, actually, once winter hits Wisconsin. But for now, I'd like some specific pointers. I'm planning to experiment with my 5x7 camera, and would like to order some film for it that I can then upgrade to once I finish the 14x17.

Thanks!

The best X-Ray film was single sided Kodak Ektascan, which was available in 14X17 and 8X10 only

No longer available from any source I know

All still available X-Ray is very similar, green, blue, double speed means nothing for us. It is all double sided.

There is a bit of Mammo film left, but only metric sizes as far as I know

Be careful what you buy and make sure it is wet process and not DRY, or digital or anything else

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Originally Posted by Paul Kinzer

Hey folks,

I've been away from this forum for a long time (a year?) because life got in the way. But I'm still planning to build a 14x17 camera, with the intent of using x-ray film. I have three lenses, a shutter I made, bellows, and all the material to make the camera itself. I hope to make the thing over the winter, and am actually putting off cleaning/re-arranging my workshop by writing this post.

Here's my question: Since I last visited, has there been any consensus on a particularly good film -- or few films -- to use, which is available in 14x17? I mean, like some which are less prone to scratching, for example. Or, short of recommendations for particular films, maybe updated info on some, like details on film speed, etc.

I read the entire thread last year, looking for all the information I could find. At the time, I saw lots of folks ask questions, and some folks would respond 'read the thread'. I plan to do that, actually, once winter hits Wisconsin. But for now, I'd like some specific pointers. I'm planning to experiment with my 5x7 camera, and would like to order some film for it that I can then upgrade to once I finish the 14x17.

Thanks!

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Best to get film in hand while you can. It all appears on the slippery slope to oblivion.

I've had good luck getting my film from these Guys:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fuji-Green-...AAAOSwjJZfgG3t

They charge only exact shipping per weight

Mee Too Jim, I will be buying a case of 500 8X10 sheets on payday

I prefer cases as then it comes in another box

I once bought 2 boxes of 14X17 which weigh a lot, one box failed, but the inner black bag held the disaster of lightstruck at bay

For the record, I have been warning of the disappearance of X-Ray for at least a year

on eBay I see long expired left over

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Originally Posted by Jim Noel

Best to get film in hand while you can. It all appears on the slippery slope to oblivion.

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O, man; I'm glad to have checked back now! I do see, after looking around the various sources I found last year, that the pickings definitely seem slimmer than they were a year ago. I do see some unexpired stuff still being sold, but in many fewer sizes (I haven't seen any 5x7 yet), and fewer film choices, too.

Speaking of expired, how old would it be worth buying, if I find some that's been stored at room temperature or better?

Nobody knows if any film has been stored correctly or gone bad, life is a gamble

but that's why I only buy from my normal sources

Which are ZZ Medical for X-Ray and B&H for most other film or Freestyle for stuff B&H doesn't have

any of them will support their products

but I have shot 120 year old glass plates

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Originally Posted by Paul Kinzer

O, man; I'm glad to have checked back now! I do see, after looking around the various sources I found last year, that the pickings definitely seem slimmer than they were a year ago. I do see some unexpired stuff still being sold, but in many fewer sizes (I haven't seen any 5x7 yet), and fewer film choices, too.

Speaking of expired, how old would it be worth buying, if I find some that's been stored at room temperature or better?

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Thanks, good points!

It's off-topic, but I'd like to know more about those glass plates sometime. And, though it's been a long time, I still really appreciate your clear, generous help.