Use of X-ray film: technical discussion with example images

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Originally Posted by Andrew O'Neill

Thought I'd give Blazinal a go over the weekend... These are very tight crops from Two sheets of Green Latitude, double-sided, tray, intermitent agitation. Image on top, 1+200, 16:00; Image on bottom, 1+100, 9:00 (both used 5ml stock), 20C. The full negs are also shown (1+200 on top)

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Nice test. I use Sergei's recommendation of a minimum of 10cc per 80 sq in.

Are you seeking the absolute minimum?

Yes. It's a Scottish thing. Thrifty. I neglected to say I shot both at EI 80 and no adjustments were done in PS. I was also quite surprised/happy with minimal grain and smooth tones.

Andrew nice results. I will give Rodinal a try.

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Originally Posted by Andrew O'Neill

For Canucks, up here R09 is bottled as Blazinal, which is identical to R09, which is identical to Rodinal...

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Not entirely true, R09 is SLIGHTLY different than "true" Rodinal which is to say the last iteration of AGFA Rodinal that is now made by Adox (called Rodinal in the states and Adonal everywhere else).

It was a short time after the closing of AGFA where a few companies were able to buy from the same producer. But all the new stuff on the shelf is now going to be slightly different and either a varied version, or an older version of the AGFA Rodinal.

This is for legal reasons since Adox bought the rights to the last formula and exclusively produces it just for them. All other distributors have to have theirs be slightly different.

The difference is so minute that it probably doesn't matter, but just to be precise, the only company that sells the original last version of Rodinal made by AGFA is ONLY and EXCLUSIVELY made by Adox, all other versions are different. So it's not identical, but close enough.

Lemons and limes, Stone. Lemons and limes.

Hello, Stone,

Adox isn't able to produce any chemicals. Not for themselve and of course not for others.
They really buy this stuff from Tetenal, like Maco too.
If you are interested in selling by yourself something like Ratinal, Jokinol or Super R 0815, ask Tetenal; they will deliver some 209 Liter barrels, and companies like Compard are able to fill in bottles.

Best regards,
Ritchie

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Originally Posted by plaubel

Hello, Stone,

Adox isn't able to produce any chemicals. Not for themselve and of course not for others.
They really buy this stuff from Tetenal, like Maco too.
If you are interested in selling by yourself something like Ratinal, Jokinol or Super R 0815, ask Tetenal; they will deliver some 209 Liter barrels, and companies like Compard are able to fill in bottles.

Best regards,
Ritchie

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Then what is this ADOX APH-09 made in Germany? So fresh it was clear when I got it, and now after 2 months it's dark brown unopened. In usage I cannot tell it from my sealed case of AGFA Rodinol also made in Germany which is now almost black. Both work the same for me.

I don't like the tiny squirt top on the ADOX as it makes it very slow to drink. I can chug the AGFA.

Yes, the "products" from Maco or Impex change into brown soap, but they will work well for a while.
I change my own bottles after 12 moths, no trust but no problems..


The original Agfa Rodinal will probably live longer than me, so it can't be the same like RO9, Adonal, which may die after one or two years, I have heard in different Forums..
The american Rodinal or Blazinal I don't know, but it seems, that all this newer Tetenal-Rodinals work well with xray.

My Adox is dated August 1, 2015 which is one week before I bought it.

I have 8 out of 10 bottles left.

I'll use it before the old 'good' stuff.

Randy, do you take yours with a lemon or a lime? ;)