Use of X-ray film: technical discussion with example images

Two more Fuji HRT neg
Take late in the day last Sunday as a low light test
G-Claron 270mm f45 was concerned regarding light but shadow detail was good,
second print was a little darker the range of tones id better than I thought:)
Scan of Print:):D
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This shot was in the opposite direction so a little sun was shining beyond the lattice wall
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GOOD COMMENT
Although not everyone is a good reader.
I read every post regarding the film process and Widely conflicting posts from
all manner of viewpoints( incluing the older set of posts took nights), so I wrote down the exposures posted from my judgment of the best looking images posted'
and used that as a starting dev time.
Having the mother of all battles actually buying x-ray film was just one step into the process' in AU you have to be a medico to buy x-ray film
my friendly Chiro offered to get some for me,as buying from USA +postage is over $100 dollars
so price was $55 from Fuji then the wholesaler got involved and price went to $110. but fresh stock
so $1 dollar a sheet for my new for me Kodak 8x10.
We do not have 8x10 but 240x180mm so my solution was sliding some 10mm dyno tape under the side and end rails,
then cutting some 13-15mm black card to fit under the metal rails and over the dyno tape.
when loading the film slide the film under the card which works quite well.
I have given up sticky taping the film in to the holder and use a 12mm stick on dot with holds the film in place.
which saves the jungle cat effort to remove the tape!.
Is it worth the effort absolutely never contact printed before so your initial development time was what I used 15.45 sec and 1.100 Rodinal
in trays 1 sheet at a time and rocking the tray side to side 1 lite mix each time
Still winter over here so bright sunshine just as lately is rare,time will tell
How it goes in our clear sunny days
Regards
Bazz8

Winter...

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Originally Posted by Bazz8

GOOD COMMENT
Although not everyone is a good reader.
I read every post regarding the film process and Widely conflicting posts from
all manner of viewpoints( incluing the older set of posts took nights), so I wrote down the exposures posted from my judgment of the best looking images posted'
and used that as a starting dev time.
Having the mother of all battles actually buying x-ray film was just one step into the process' in AU you have to be a medico to buy x-ray film
my friendly Chiro offered to get some for me,as buying from USA +postage is over $100 dollars
so price was $55 from Fuji then the wholesaler got involved and price went to $110. but fresh stock
so $1 dollar a sheet for my new for me Kodak 8x10.
We do not have 8x10 but 240x180mm so my solution was sliding some 10mm dyno tape under the side and end rails,
then cutting some 13-15mm black card to fit under the metal rails and over the dyno tape.
when loading the film slide the film under the card which works quite well.
I have given up sticky taping the film in to the holder and use a 12mm stick on dot with holds the film in place.
which saves the jungle cat effort to remove the tape!.
Is it worth the effort absolutely never contact printed before so your initial development time was what I used 15.45 sec and 1.100 Rodinal
in trays 1 sheet at a time and rocking the tray side to side 1 lite mix each time
Still winter over here so bright sunshine just as lately is rare,time will tell
How it goes in our clear sunny days
Regards
Bazz8

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Originally Posted by SergeiR

People conditioned to think that there is something super important about PROCESS. Thanks to lovely people of f64. Joy of discovering things, joy of trying new things, rediscovering something, hunting for bits and pieces - its all getting lost. Everything has to be "exposed for shadows" everything has to be under bloody developed and god forbid if you do something in dark room for 10 minutes and not 5:45.. You wont ever get good picture.... Riiiiiight.

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Preach it!

As a fan of tmax400 film, that works nicely with good process, but it's the exception that proves the rule. So much in B&W photography deserves some experimenting.

I experiment, as do most B&W workers. Good process has served me well.

Well, here is my first effort actually shooting this film with an idea of outcome in mind. I'm not a nature or landscape photographer but I love the tones, softness and details in this image. This is an uncropped 8x10 shot made on Kodak Ektascan B/RA mammography x-ray film.

I wandering this weekend looking for interesting things to photograph and see the tones and range of this inexpensive film. About an hour from my house I found a state park with some quite beautiful small trees that I came to learn are Ironwood trees. They have a beautiful reddish smooth surface and the leaves and branches were quite beautiful. It was 105 degrees so I didn't wander far from the car to find a tree so I was forced to shoot a detail shot so that the parking lot or other elements wouldn't be visible in the image. Overall I love the tones and rendering of out-of-focus areas. I think that there are several crops of this image that would be more beautiful than the whole but I posted it here so that you could see how beautifully (in my opinion) that tones can be rendered by cheap film.

Deardorff 8x10 + Kodak 12" Commercial Ektar
Kodak Ektascan B/RA X-Ray Film
80 asa at 1/100 - f16
Tray processed in Adinol 1:100
Agitation for 1 minute followed by 15 seconds every minute
Scanned on an Epson 750 Pro

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7284/9...65358d69_b.jpg
Ironwood Detail by ScottPhoto.co, on Flickr

Lovely

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Originally Posted by SergeiR

i believe that if someone actually capable of shooting with camera - they are capable of reading and thus can find information. If information has to be chewed and spoon fed - may be that person shall not be there in first place. People conditioned to think that there is something super important about PROCESS. Thanks to lovely people of f64. Joy of discovering things, joy of trying new things, rediscovering something, hunting for bits and pieces - its all getting lost. Everything has to be "exposed for shadows" everything has to be under bloody developed and god forbid if you do something in dark room for 10 minutes and not 5:45.. You wont ever get good picture.... Riiiiiight.
SergeiR, First and foremost--I really like the photo. Where do you get these beautiful models? Second, I seem to have lost something in the translation over the passed few Threads, but what's this all about? Up tell now the forum has been a wealth of information for me. Did I miss something? I really do like your work, R.W.Delung The Seattle guy.

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8x10 kodak csg , 1:160 Rodinal, 7m rotary. Wollensak 12 inch SF series . Print.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7298/9...660df34d_c.jpg
Scan-130809-0001www by Sergei Rodionov, on Flickr

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A few details from the previously posted image:

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5495/9...eb1b757e_b.jpg
Abstract 3 by ScottPhoto.co, on Flickr

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2843/9...8444015f_b.jpg
Abstract 2 by ScottPhoto.co, on Flickr
Yes, those are Newton rings and I like them here. :)

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5547/9...07067280_b.jpg
Abstract 1 by ScottPhoto.co, on Flickr

Rodney - :) Quoting is.. art ;) But i glad you like it. Models. some i have to beg, some do ask me to be shot.. Its just kinda viscous circle.. Trust me - i have weeks when i cant find anyone b/c i am either too picky or everyone just too busy to shoot. I have real issues with being shy, so asking new people is insanely hard for me, so i started some time ago going to meetups (meetup.com) just to get acquainted with models i like to shoot later and it sort of started to bring new ones it too.

You basically missed yet another batch of questions on basics from someone who doesnt want to read through existing material, and few people nudging Andrew to build up Q&A article for site.