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I have my first 4 sheets of Fuji UM-MA loaded into holders. My plan is to shoot at ISO100, develop in Pyrocat by inspection. First inspection will be at 5:30, since my "cold" water is in the mid 70s in the summer. Final prints will be on Grade3 Azo, Grade 2 Lodima, or Grade 3 Lupex depending on the negative contrast.
Battle for contrast :D
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I cant speak for Fuji UM-MA, or AD-M. BUT...I have had my best luck to date on Kodak X-sight (asa 100) with Rodinol at 1:200, 68 degrees and a 30 minute semi stand development.
Hopefully the attached file will come through...Attachment 206677
Busch 4x5 Pressman with 135mm Raptar at f22 and 1/10th second.
Overcast day of course.....I can never get the contrast tamed enough when its sunny.:(
My first attempt at using xray film, just a quick test. It's on Carestream MXG, shot 8x10 (cropped here) at ISO 100, developed in PQ Universal by inspection. This is a scan with some tonal adjustements, edge burning and toning applied. Will try to contact print it later.
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Did you get good results with that film yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel Unkefer
I have loaded 5x7 and 18x24cm holders with MINR but have not tested as of yet.
My cameras are old and have not been used for a while. I have been cleaning and repairing them, ready to take out soon.
Will post some results soon as I have time.
A 5x7 from my roc Kenwood. Fuji HRU. Rodinol 1:100 for 6 minutes, tray developed. Shot at ISO 100.
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Nice, post that in September Portraits!
You may have to start the thread
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Originally Posted by Brianr
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Half speed green, unsure of brand. Rating it at 5 to 10 and developing for 12mins in D-76 diluted 1:3. I was really struggling with exposures until I realized 6 mins in the soup was way to short! Lens is a Cooke series II in a compound shutter (prior to the soft focus). Overcast and breezy day 2 sec@4.5 hopefully all the sheets are in this good of shape. Expired in 2011.
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Originally Posted by Mattk
Test Fuji HR-U in KGB-20 (homemade clone HC-110), dilution "F". 4x5, exp. as 200 E.I. Manual tray dev-t 3 min.
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REMINDER; On cloudy days, as well as early morning and late afternoon the available light contains more red to which x-ray and other orthochromatic emulsions are not sensitive. Thus - underexposure if not accounted for. Although I generally use a film speed of 100, I have gone as low as 6 on very overcast days which we have frequently.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattk
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and again a portrait that could be posted in September Portraits
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Originally Posted by senderoaburrido
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...d88d1cab_z.jpg4x5 Fuji HRU Mic-X 5 minutes by Nokton48, on Flickr
My first Norma 4x5 photo in twenty five years taken yesterday. Fuji 8x10 HR-U X-Ray cut down to 4x5, Graphmatic Holder, 4x5 Sinar Norma 180mm f5.6 chrome Durst Componon lens, full key sun. This was exposure #6, two stops over ambient reading of grey card EI 50 TTL Sinarsix 1/15 @ Fll. Short development is stock Legacy Mic-X 5 minutes 68F. Cesco flat bottomed 8x10 trays, sheets developed singly. I did a sort of ring-around, varying exposure and development times. This is the lowest contrast version which I like. Very little scratching so I am pleased.
8x10 Arista RC #2 Multigrade dev Omega DII with Omegalite circuline head
Cool thing is this works out to about 7 cents per 4x5 sheet. I may load up the truck :)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...ba944298_z.jpg4x5 Fuji HRU Mic-X 8 minutes by Nokton48, on Flickr
This is decreasing exposure one stop as shown above, but increasing dev time from five to eight minutes. My wife prefers this version.
So this one EI 25 harder development
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Originally Posted by Daniel Unkefer
I'm with you — the 1st one is better.
Me too, the first one.
Me three. First one.
Thanks for your opinions, Guys!
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...3d9d4857_z.jpgLoading Up The Truck Fuji XRay by Nokton48, on Flickr
OK HR-U is going to work for me in the larger formats. So I am loading up the truck as I have no idea how long it is going to be available.
400 8x10 sheets of HR-U plus the hundred I already have. Hopefully a lifetime supply. While I was at it I grabbed a hundred sheets of RX-N, which is the blue two sided high speed Fuji XRay film.
Great fun ahead I predict. I loaded four 4x5 Graphmatics, and four 2x3 Graphmatics, with HR-U this morning.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...ed0d99f0_z.jpgKodak Min-R Single Sided Mammography 18x24cm by Nokton48, on Flickr
This is single sided 18x24cm Mammography XRay I found a while back. I do have one Sinar Norma 18x24 film holder, so this will make nice sized contact prints.
The big bonus is that I can cut it into four 9x12cm to fit my European holders and cameras.
25 cents a sheet for single sided 18x24. Looks like these came from France.
I am a great believer in having plenty of film. I am 91, and my 8x10 and 5x12 stock was down to 400 and 500 sheets respectively,so I took advantage of the Ilford ULF order to stock up, as well as a final source of 5x12 dental film.. I told my wife I want to die with only one sheet of film left.
Jim, you win!
I don't know how much film I have
a lot is old
Not a contest, just a statement of resources. I have never believed in running out of film.
Jim
Yes, here in Europe we only can get 18x24cm XRay films (single or doubled coated), but I'd like to buy them in 8x10": is there in the US a shop that would accept to ship to France?Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel Unkefer
Yes Jim, I used a colloquialism, my mistake
What I should have written is you are prepared, as in 'Be Prepared' as meant by Robert Baden-Powell
I try to be prepared for anything
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Originally Posted by Jim Noel
Not taken as a criticism, or anything but friends communicating. Have a great day!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tin Can
Bravo!
Philippe
Check with zzmedical.com
"It looks like you were looking at Fuji film and we are not allowed by Fuji to ship that outside of the United States." is the answer I got from Kevin Zabel, zzmedical.comQuote:
Originally Posted by j.e.simmons
Politics
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Originally Posted by Philippe Grunchec
Does anyone have experience with HR-U developed with Diafine? I’m going to try this combo but was wandering what others may have found or what a starting equivalent ISO would be given that this developer provides a significant speed gain.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...04b5cc7c_z.jpgHRU test Norma Handy Sinarsix MicX by Nokton48, on Flickr
Nothing artistic but a superwide view off of my back deck, on a VERY windy clear sun key day.
Fuji 4x5 HRU XRay test key day Sinar 4x5 Norma Handy 65mm F8 chrome Schneider Super Angulon lens, with Schneider 65mm F8 Center Filter. Norma Sinarsix TTL meter F11 reads green grass EV 7 2/3 equates to 1/15 at F11. Very windy day lots of tree movement. Camera mounted on a Star D tripod to allow slower shutter speeds. Microdol-X straight replenished 12 mins at ambient. Development by inspection red safelight Omega DII Omegalite diffusion head Arista #2 RC paper mulitgrade dev Scratches! Used Paterson trays, should have used smooth Cesco trays. This is a wide scale subject, Microdol-X has done a pretty good job once again :)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...18a21bf0_z.jpgSinar Norma Handy w TTL Sinarsix metering by Nokton48, on Flickr
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...67d711f3_z.jpgHRU Pulso Test 210 Componon f22 12 pops MicX by Nokton48, on Flickr
Testing my new Broncolor Pulso C171 375 WS Monolight with restored 80x80cm Pulso Softbox about three feet right. Silver Gold reflector on left. Fuji HRU XRay film 4x5 Sinar Norma 180mm chrome Componon Norma Shutter Mic-X replenished straight developr in a flat bottomed Cesco tray. Lisco 4x5 film holder
F22 I popped the strobe twelve times to build up the density
The Grey canvas background I painted myself; Just recently put it back up
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...bb0920d0_z.jpgHRU test 2 Norma Handy Sinarsix MicX by Nokton48, on Flickr
Same scene as previously but one stop additional exposure
EI of 25 1/8 F11 Key Day Center Filter Seems to have more highlight and shadow detail
Negative suffered some damage as film was mangled in the Graphmatic sheet holder. I'm switching to regular sheet film holders.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...12373511_z.jpgMINR XRay Test 1 210mm Componon F22 Two Pops C171 by Nokton48, on Flickr
18x24cm Kodak MIN-R Mammography film cut into 4x5s. Sinar Norma Broncolor C171 with Broncolor Pulso Beauty Dish. Two strobe pops with Sinar Norma Shutter, multiple pops are no problem. Schneider chrome Componon lens at F22. Lisco Regal 4x5 film holder
Legacy Mic-X film dev 8 mins at 68F Aristo 8x10 #2 RC print Multigrade dev
This is fun :)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...1f8e44b4_z.jpgHRU Makiflex Std Mic-X 240 f4.5 Tele-Arton by Nokton48, on Flickr
Plaubel Makiflex Standard camera 240mm F5.5 chrome barrel mount Schneider Tele-Arton at F22. One pop of Broncolor Pulso C171 monolight strobe with Broncolor Pulso Beauty Dish. No fill.
8x10 Fuji HR-U XRay film cut into 4x5s straight Microdol-X replenished in a tray development by inspection under custom red light. 4x5 Lisco Regal holder.
8x10 RC Aristo #2 Multigrade dev Omega DII with diffusion Omegalite head.
What kind of times are you getting with the Microdol-X on average? When do you first examine the negative?
My safelights are very very safe and I watch the films as soon as they go in the dev. Yesterday with HR-U the image came up to the point I could see something after three minutes.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmdavis
I set my time to eight minutes each time as a start, sometimes I pull them. With these Makiflex negs ^^^ I left 'em for twelve minutes and they look pretty good.
If overexposed these films seem to come up quicker? I have had some come up in two minutes.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...523e2a72_z.jpgHRU Fixing Step Dental Clips 1 by Nokton48, on Flickr
I've decided to use these Dental Clips I bought on Ebay, to hold down two sheets in the Cesco flat bottomed trays, and keep them off the bottom, and keeping them from moving around (which scratches!)
Here two sheets are in the TD4 Fix
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...e48dc3e5_z.jpgHRU Wash Step Dental Clips 2 by Nokton48, on Flickr
Here the two sheets are moving into the wash tray. This has caused a lot of grief, if a sheet touches ANYTHING it is scratched with HRU.
The sheets are well distanced, off the bottom, and can get a decent wash with getting scratched.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...31be3f5e_z.jpgHRU Dry Step Dental Clips 3 by Nokton48, on Flickr
When I go to the dry step, I move both clips to opposite ends. So the water can drain off properly.
I have made three runs this way, with only one scratch (my fault).
Getting perfect sheets with HRU no defects is not an easy matter. So far I can see no reason to continue tray processing in thos way
I thought that is single side film?
How does it scratch face up?
I have HR-U which is double sided.
I also have Kodak MIN-R which is single sided. Both are prone to scratching.
I'm doing two 4x5 sheets at a time and they tend to move around in the tray. If they touch ANYTHING they will scratch!
The clips keep them from floating around and banging into each other, especially in the wash tray
If I am diligent I get zero scratches. 5x7 I would go single sheets in a tray, that is a different animal.
Yes, all 2X is delicate, yet I have processed ULF 2X by hand unscratched up to 14X36"
With bigger sheets I will do one at a time in the Cesco trays. Still while being washed they can easily scratch
Another possibility for me is deep tanks, I have 3F 8x10 3.5 gals but have not set them up yet
I bought SS rods from McMaster Carr and the dental clips will probably work good, I have put one together. But right now I am using the trays
the few big sheets I did with 2 clips one on each end using a big Cesco with 2" of PQ under safelight
See-saw dipping, reusing the middle center water stop tray for wash also
12 minutes to done
They were enlarged positives, which I put in a window box with backlight, so viewable only at night
Now I want to make a simple Pano camera using 2 sheets
I have been purchasing Carestream x-ray film from Z&Z Medical for the past 10 years but they no longer carry it. Can anyone recommend an alternative source for Carestream X-ray films in 8x10?
All Traditional wet process X-Ray medical film is going away fast
Some Industrial film may remain
Ektascan is gone
2X aka double sided is still sold at ZZ Like this
I would try this next
some out of date films may be on eBay
It may be time to put a padlock on my film freezer.
My 14X17 Ektascan does not fit!
The 8X10 does
It's all fine for the duration
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Originally Posted by Jim Noel
I am just getting started with x-ray film and would like very much if someone could give me some basic starting out information. I fully realize that there is everything I could every wish to know somewhere in these 500+ pages but I will be damned If I can find it. The search tool seem useless to me, or maybe I'M just stupid.
I have some D23 developer coming, and some fixer but I don't have a baseline from which to start in the darkroom. I have read a bunch of pages and there are as many ways of going at it. I just need somewhere to start. I'm happy to experiment from there. Is anyone willing to do that please? I don't even know what I have left out of this post to make it understandable. Thank you in advance for any shred of help.
Expose at 40 asa, develop and fix like any other film
D23 and any fixer works fine