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Frank Petronio
I like pictures that challenge me and make me uncomfortable.
Pornography?
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Vaughn
When people "complain" about pictures of "rocks and trees", I can not help but think of the millions of images of people -- what an over-done subject!!! Gawd! Not another photo of a person! I see people every day. There's billions of them mucky things up! When is someone going to do a portrait in a new way, a way we haven't seen many many times before?! :D ;) :D (this is my sarcasm symbol, BTW)
Vaughn
I agree with Vaughn, with or without the sarcasm symbol. Frankly when I go out to shoot landscapes the last thing in the world I want to see is a person. Part of the joy of this type of photography is that one often does not have to deal with people, other than those who might have accompanied us with the same intention.
On the other hand, next time I go out to do landscape work maybe I will pick up a nude mannequin to place at a strategic point in the composition to make my work more meaningful to folks like Frank, to combine cliches so to speak.
Sandy
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Pipit
All - thanks for a very nice welcome for my first pic. Here is another one on the same locaion (Ubon Ratchathani, Thailand) with 90mm Sinaron. Shot on Shanghai Film. The sky has cropped.
So beautiful!
Thanks for sharing!
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Sascha Welter
I wouldn't consider Frank's post to be trolling, also since from other posts of his I perceive it to be "in character" :-) Instead I think it's a valid point of discussion.
My suggestion Frank was a troll was meant in jest - hence the "emoticon" thingy. I wasn't serious - just picking up on the mildly provocative tenor of some of his posts (both visual and literary). I appreciate Frank's contribution to the forum and apologise unreservedly to Frank if my comment caused him any offence.
I also agree with Sascha that Frank poses a valid question. But I wonder whether a thread intended for image sharing is the appropriate place to pose it. Frank's question is probably important enough to merit its own thread.
Cheers
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sanking
...On the other hand, next time I go out to do landscape work maybe I will pick up a nude mannequin to place at a strategic point in the composition to make my work more meaningful to folks like Frank, to combine cliches so to speak. Sandy
But make sure to take some of those rub-on tattoos with you! And some small rings to glue on various body parts! ;)
But yes, Carey, back to more photos!!!!!!
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Joe Forks
Charlie that is awesome!
Frank that might be a good project - find a pristine landscape and add a McDonalds cup or maybe a plastic water bottle and place it prominently in the scene. That's art! hahaha
Well you make a joke, but it COULD be quite artistic. Art doesn't have to be pretty. It can be ugly and discomfort producing, particularly if it makes a point. I think something like this could make a good point about man and our interaction with nature and need for care.
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Originally Posted by
Frank Petronio
Peter has a nice picture with a dog in the foreground, that's about 30 pix back that I had to go to find a sign of life. Heck there's hardly any vegetation in the preceding shots.
I don't know why Ken had to edit that? And I don't think it's trolling or picking on anyone... just making an observation as to the sterility of most of these pictures making me a wee bit uncomfortable.
First reaction - "good." ;)
Next thought is about how different things make different people uncomfortable. My girlfriend has lived in NYC and Philadelphia and is quite comfortable in very urban surroundings. I am not. Any time we go to downtown Atlanta, she drives. She doesn't mind it, and it freaks me the #$%^ out trying to drive down there, never mind park. I like a lot of the activities in such places, but the sheer density of people makes me more than a little uncomfortable. Oddly enough (to me) she's a bit uncomfortable in wide open places, at least if she's alone.
Bluntly, I'm not that much of a people person. I'm naturally drawn to landscapes and particularly rather desolate ones, in which I find beauty. But this is one of the very reasons I'm getting interested in doing portraiture. We don't grow much as artists or people if we only do what we're comfortable with.
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rdenney
Perhaps the solitude is the point, and the sterility is supposed to make you feel uncomfortable. Many times, the point of a stark landscape is to make us realize it may not be our home in which we are free to feel comfortable.
Rick "who has felt uncomfortable and sometimes even creepy looking as some of your unclothed models" Denney
Well said Rick.
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Originally Posted by
Frank Petronio
I like pictures that challenge me and make me uncomfortable. But I suspect that many "landscapists" are unaware that their coldly perfect pictures have that effect. It's kind of a Pagan thing to worship the dirt quite so reverently....
Er, smile when you say that. After all, it's quite a compliment. :D
So here's one of mine with some people in it. They're not prominent, but are clearly pretty comfortable in their (rather manicured - this is at the VA hospital grounds in Johnson City, TN) environment.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5253/...9c01c7ea_b.jpg
4x5 Agfacolor 100 (RIP.), Linhof Technika III, 90mm Angulon. Exposure only recorded in a field notebook at the time and long since lost and forgotten.
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Roger, just a little tongue in cheek, and I agree with what you are saying.
Seabird, I agree, new thread and I'd be happy to participate, but I'd pose more questions than answers :)
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Vaughn
While in the desert I re-read Narcissus and Goldmund by Hesse (for the nth time)
Vaughn
Great book Vughn. The description and the story is beautiful. Is a book full of described photographies.. As "Little Prince" I could turn read it and discover new thinks each time..
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Joe Forks
Roger, just a little tongue in cheek, and I agree with what you are saying.
Seabird, I agree, new thread and I'd be happy to participate, but I'd pose more questions than answers :)
Oh I know. I'm not bothered by any of this. Just talking about it - and agree it might be best in a separate thread. :)
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People in the landscape.
My three boys with the Three Brothers (Yosemite Valley) in the background. 8x10 neg scan -- will be a pt/pd print one of these days.
And added another -- my three boys in Fern Canyon -- Prairie Creek Redwoods State Park, CA. Scanned Pt/pd print. 8x10 neg
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Originally Posted by
Frank Petronio
I like pictures that challenge me and make me uncomfortable. But I suspect that many "landscapists" are unaware that their coldly perfect pictures have that effect. It's kind of a Pagan thing to worship the dirt quite so reverently....
I have no problem if my Pagan imagery makes viewers uncomfortable. But its mostly the trees, the streams, and the ladies that I worship.
--Thebes, who often thinks Frank's photos of the ladies make it look like he is uncomfortable with sexuality.
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Originally Posted by
Frank Petronio
You know, there are a few good ones in this thread. But don't you guys ever get freaking bored of empty rocky places devoid of life? It's kind of creepy and apocalyptic, all these lonely B&Ws look like the end of the world... scenes from Cormac McCarthy's "The Road" or a MadMax movie.
Do the world a favor and stay were you are. We do not need you and your kind of thinking here. :D You will be happier and we will be happier.
Steve
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Frank:
They are only empty of what you fail to see.
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johnmsanderson
Frank:
They are only empty of what you fail to see.
:confused:
Sandy King
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mandoman7
IMO the problem with the landscapes that seem too complacent is the marginal commitment on the part of the photographer. The replication of someone else's idea, or equipment, and hoping it works without going through any real process of self expression. Going through the motions, so to speak.
This is an important point. It is a problem with the creation of any type of art, but certain things like landscape photography, with its established idioms and heroes, makes it even harder to find a personal statement of one's own. I'd say this is also true with other completely mature art forms that have reached their zenith in years past... traditional bebop jazz comes to mind.
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Originally Posted by
sanking
I agree with Vaughn, with or without the sarcasm symbol. Frankly when I go out to shoot landscapes the last thing in the world I want to see is a person. Part of the joy of this type of photography is that one often does not have to deal with people, other than those who might have accompanied us with the same intention.
On the other hand, next time I go out to do landscape work maybe I will pick up a nude mannequin to place at a strategic point in the composition to make my work more meaningful to folks like Frank, to combine cliches so to speak.
Sandy
I agree, in part with you, Sandy.
When I go out to shoot landscape (actually, I shoot usually seascapes) I want to be alone, that's why I prefer to shoot in stormy days. I want complete silence (I mean no human voices around), just me, my camera, wind sound, waves sound, seagulls sound. The human voice, in a setup like this would ruin all the session...
Whenever someone shows up, always ruin it...I have to stop shooting, they come and start asking questions about that wooden camera (can you still get rollfilm for it?) or ( My father had one like that, is that a Polaroid?) or (Are you shooting a movie?) or they just stand in front of camera, or they finally leave, after offering me footprints all over the beach...
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Dan Lin; thanks for the snow scene; I like that!
I like this banter a bit too. I like landscape photography and I like people photography, but I know photographers who have a serious aversion to one or the other and don't figure it out or resolve it. Not just photographers here!
The only time I've found landscapes to work well with people photos is a nice environmental portrait. However, the landscape plays 2nd to the portrait subject. It's no longer a landscape with a person being the primary subject.
I like the solitude of doing stuff outside. I also like a little socializing and teamwork for the people photos. I rarely mix them. Sorta like I like coffee and [some] beer, but I don't mix them together in the same glass. I would if I could make it real nice, but it doesn't work out that way.
The comment about photography being so focused on the earth being Pagan isn't a jab so much as an honest interpretation. Pagan is usually associated with people who worked the land for a living and the various superstitions, magic, and festivities associated with pagan character focused on them suceeding in making use of the land. Other people might be less worshipful of the land, but more reverent, as a product of their creator. This slight sounding difference is a real big one. You could tell one person he is worshiping nature, and that makes them a pagan, but tell one person they are reverent of the land and that's a wise comment rather than a religious jab or misidentification, as revering something is both non-religious and religious.
Here's an attempt to combine landscape and people. Nice shadows, but the scale of the kids in the lower left, they are far too small compared to the trees and snow. It's tough. I'm not greatly pleased by the photo, but it illustrates the difficulties I have of combining landscape and people with mixed success.
http://www.f64.nu/photo/tmp/lff/img296c.jpg
One person who is successfully combining people and landscape in my area is Charles Dufour www.du4photo.com
The images are beautiful, but of limited scope in terms of subject matter.
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Yellowstone
5X7 (cropped) - 180 Nikkor W
Efke Pl 100 - Pyrocat HD
JandC Nuance - MAS Amidol
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Hi. :D
this one I took yesterday to test my 4x5 home made camera, ERA @ 80 ISO, 1s @ f22
Polarizer + Yellow. Schneider 58mm XL. image cropped.
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briand
Hi. :D
this one I took yesterday to test my 4x5 home made camera, ERA @ 80 ISO, 1s @ f22
Polarizer + Yellow. Schneider 58mm XL. image cropped.
Looks like the camera is working fine :-)
How about some photos of the camera?
-Leon
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Leon.
there is a photo of the camera in the thread ( show us your home made camera
cheers
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briand
Leon.
there is a photo of the camera in the thread ( show us your home made camera
cheers
Oh yes, now I remember. Very nice. Are going to make a camera around the 39mm XL?
I'm waiting for a 47XL myself to make another P&S - I was inspired by Nana - lol
-Leon
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Yes I was Inspired by Nana to,I think her work is excellent,
I have started on the next camera, it will look very similar to the Cambo DS wide.
I'm not sure if the 38mm will cover 4x5 so it will have Either the 38mm or a 47mm XL.and have 20mm shift up & down on the lens if I can I will make the shift geared.
Brian. :D
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briand
Yes I was Inspired by Nana to,I think her work is excellent
Small correction: "his work"
http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/acco...profile/539956
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briand
Hi. :D
this one I took yesterday to test my 4x5 home made camera, ERA @ 80 ISO, 1s @ f22
Polarizer + Yellow. Schneider 58mm XL. image cropped.
Fantastic skies, and the tree too. :D
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Jim Becia
One from Zion this fall. This was at the end of October while the tram was still running. Went up the canyon on a very rainy day. Got soaked, but realized that moments like this in Zion are very fleeting as once the rain stopped, the waterfall quickly diminished to a trickle. Taken with a 5x7. Jim
Just wonderful, Jim! You nailed it.
Rick
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Heres an urban landscape, out near flushing meadows park in Corona, Queens. One of my winter series.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5090/...a80036c1_b.jpg
Chamonix 45n-2
schneider 150mm apo symmar 5.6
kodak ektar 100
http://www.justinwaldinger.com
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JWaldinger
Heres an urban landscape, out near flushing meadows park in Corona, Queens. One of my winter series.
Chamonix 45n-2
schneider 150mm apo symmar 5.6
kodak ektar 100
http://www.justinwaldinger.com
Amazing, i like it!
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Professional
Amazing, i like it!
Me too..
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Professional
Amazing, i like it!
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Shailendra
Me too..
Me three. Beautifully stark.
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:) took this yesterday afternoon. 58mm XL home made camera.
1/8sec @ f22, Croatian film? 100 @ 80 ISO
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>Justin, Me four!
>Brian, I really like how you resolved the composition in this shot-classic and simple.
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Originally Posted by
JWaldinger
Heres an urban landscape, out near flushing meadows park in Corona, Queens. One of my winter series.
Chamonix 45n-2
schneider 150mm apo symmar 5.6
kodak ektar 100
http://www.justinwaldinger.com
Great subdued tones, excellent photo!
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Professional, Shailendra, Roger, Brian, Ari thanks for the comments!! I will be posting more very soon. Looking forward to seeing your stuff as well.
cheers,
J
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Dupont07, how about some info as to where this was taken? Looks like a very neat place.
Keith
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It was taken in an old pagoda in Viet Nam. The name of Pagoda is Phat Tich which mean the relic of Buddha. These towers are the tombstones of the monks who used to live in that pagoda.
I shot it with my Shen Hao 4x5, super angulon 90 5.6 lens, fomapan 100 film, dev in Rodinal 1+100.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5018/...37ee7e83_z.jpg
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Dupont07, how about some info as to where this was taken? Looks like a very neat place.
Keith
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briand
Yes I was Inspired by Nana to,I think her work is excellent,
I have started on the next camera, it will look very similar to the Cambo DS wide.
I'm not sure if the 38mm will cover 4x5 so it will have Either the 38mm or a 47mm XL.and have 20mm shift up & down on the lens if I can I will make the shift geared.
Brian. :D
Well, I'm not a she, I'm a he, don't worry, I'm used to this. :)
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Sascha Welter
Thank you for the correction, Sascha. ;)
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Originally Posted by
JWaldinger
Heres an urban landscape, out near flushing meadows park in Corona, Queens. One of my winter series.
Chamonix 45n-2
schneider 150mm apo symmar 5.6
kodak ektar 100
I like this a lot, Justin.
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It is 35 mm not LF, while waiting for scanning, I post the photo of behind the scence.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5211/...0346d346_z.jpg
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http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/9965/sl010.jpg
Homemade 4x5 point-&-shoot camera, Schneider 47mm XL, Fomapan 100, yellow filter. Scanned on Epson v700.
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/809/sl001l.jpg
Shen Hao HZX 45 IIA, Nikon W 210/5.6, Fomapan 100, yellow filter. Scanned on Epson v700.
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Kjenndalsbreen
8x10 contact print. G-Claron 305, TMY-2, D76.
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http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5097/...6fa47ac4_z.jpg
Tessar 210 4.5 Fomapan 100
Shen Hao 4x5, Rodinal 1+100
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Originally Posted by
Nana Sousa Dias
Homemade 4x5 point-&-shoot camera, Schneider 47mm XL, Fomapan 100, yellow filter. Scanned on Epson v700.
Shen Hao HZX 45 IIA, Nikon W 210/5.6, Fomapan 100, yellow filter. Scanned on Epson v700.
Nice images Nana!
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Nana,
wonderful shots as always. I especially like the first shot.
Cheers,
Leon
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Nana Sousa Dias
Well, I'm not a she, I'm a he, don't worry, I'm used to this. :)
:(
My apologizes Nana, I did post a apology the other day but for some reason it hasn't gone in. I think you work is fabulous, I love the 47mm lens, do yo always use a center filter ? I look forward to seeing more of your work
Cheers Brian :D
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:D
A coulpe of shots taken the other day,
ERA 100 @ 80 ISO, 58mm XL Yellow filter, (Tanasity)
Czech Film 100 @ 80 ISO, 58mm XL, (Old Fence ):D