I went back and forth on that myself. I ended up keeping it in the frame as I felt it gave a bit more context to the area, but can also see it being a distraction. Thanks for the feedback.
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I went back and forth on that myself. I ended up keeping it in the frame as I felt it gave a bit more context to the area, but can also see it being a distraction. Thanks for the feedback.
I agree with you as well. It gives some context to the location. Great work!Quote:
Originally Posted by MumbleyJoe
Joe, It's a great scene, but cropping and values can be your best friend. As you've already determined, your real subject here is the light. Just a suggestion, but enhancing that light by discarding what isn't "the light" and printing it much deeper to reveal the light bursting from the shadows may give you much more satisfaction.
Only my opinion, but from the scene, I think this reveals your real image...and a gorgeous one it is. Beautiful place and a wonderful image.
The problem with crop is, if you are looking for a "grand" landscape style of photograph, the crop destroys that. That's fine, if that is your vision. I personally prefer the grand landscape. However, I would make that area a bit darker.Quote:
Originally Posted by lenser
Well, I appreciate the depth of consideration from both of you (sincerely), I normally have a hard time getting anyone to engage beyond "Yay" or "Nay" level of discourse. :)
I have generally gone in the direction of the "grand landscape", particularly with Large Format, but have recently been trying to edit down and become more focused on singular or simpler elements of the scene. As such, the "to crop" or "not to crop" lies somewhat at the crossroads of that decision. When I cropped it last night (with my wife's input as well, which is nice as she was there when the photo was taken) we both preferred the more "open" view, despite my general move away from the broader landscape. That could also be our personal bias, as its a sort of souvenir of our backpacking trip as well as a stand-alone photograph, so the broader context means more to me. I essentially never tolerate blown-out skies either (part of the practical rationale for tighter framing is simply to keep the exposure within the narrow confines of slide-film exposure latitude). As it is, I like that the light is still somewhat 'soft' and 'subtle' here - as the sunset progressed it got more dramatic.
Anyhow, I'll leave it at that, as I don't want to imbue this with more importance that it warrants. Thanks for the feedback!
Hi Don,Quote:
Originally Posted by D. Bryant
Thanks for the comment :)
I do vascillate over this manner of presentation. But seeing as I decided to present the images this way on my website, its easier to just link to those images using [IMG] tags. Apologies if its distracting. I trust you still derived a *little* enjoyment from my images... :)
Regards
Hope you don't mind if I setup in your tripod holes in about 3 weeks :DQuote:
Originally Posted by seabird
Have you considered using a split neutral density filter to moderate the exposure latitude?Quote:
Originally Posted by MumbleyJoe
I also like it as originally seen. Darkening the background with a split or graduated neutral density filter would have removed the sense of atmospheric distance -- visually flattening the image. A much better sense of distance and of place as it is now.Quote:
Originally Posted by MumbleyJoe
I went on my first family backback trip to this lake -- back in 1968 or thereabouts. Learned a lot on that trip, such as why one drinks from a stream above the trail -- not below it (after watching some mules piss in it!LOL!), back when we did not worry about treating the water! Even had a bear steal some of our food. My brother and I lashed some logs together and paddled around the lake. Lots of trails under my feet since then -- now I take my sons backpacking.
Vaughn
"I'd love to get some feedback if one stands out from the group to you"
water of the first or 2nd but color of first
sky of the last/4th
better more even light on the hills but early dawn still and perhaps with velvia
the only one i could look at for any length of time would be the first
super saturated reds andd greens disgust me
i like the crop eith the far "bowl" best
1ST - gorgeous! I love that magenta pre-sunrise color.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrladewig
2nd - nice
3rd - getting better
4th - great! The reflection is nicer than the previous 2. The clouds are more interesting as well - both the darker one behid the peak and the ones in the corners do a nice job of framing the photo.
Mel, that's a wonderful sunrise series. I'm having a hard time picking between the third and fourth shots.
Mel, I agree with Mark--wonderful series in gorgeous light. I am leaning toward #4.
Well done!
--P
Hello,
sure is hard to pick one,,, #4 If I had to pick one or # 1.. maybe #1
Very nice work. Do you have a preference for film type? I am interested in you opinion of Ektar 100. Thanks.
I vote for #2. Richness of light/color, the felt presence of the mountains via their shadows across the valley, and the lens light fall-off works well with the existing light
They are all really nice. I'd say #3 is my overall favorite by a smidge for the better reflection. The best time of day is in #1 but there seems to be a bit more clarity from the brighter daylight in #3 and more sun makes the reflection better too.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrladewig
I might say #4 brings up the rear, although it is still nice.
Good point!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Vaughn
I really greatly prefer the second version over all the others; it has the most natural looking colors. However, they are all just great!!Quote:
Originally Posted by mrladewig
Ditto. I've shot Ektar 100 in 35mm, but haven't used it in 4x5 yet. I do have a box of 4x5 Ektar to take to Australia with me, so I'll try it out then for myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by dperez
Very well done. Excellent location and light. Well captured.Quote:
Originally Posted by MumbleyJoe
57 tmax.
http://andrewren.com/pics/Daxi.jpg
Stopped on the way to work yesterday:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4074/...d941c287_z.jpg
Sinar, Symmar210, efke25 in Rodinal.
Yes I looked at your website and wonder why you use the frames there. I think that yours as well as other websites that use frames simply weaken the impact of the photography. In fact I think the frames just make the whole presentation look hoakey <sp?>. So much so I loose interest in looking at the photos.Quote:
Originally Posted by seabird
Sorry to be so negative but that's my gut reaction to this kind of presentation.
Don
No problem Don, thanks for the feedback :)Quote:
Originally Posted by D. Bryant
Regards
Dear seabird,
I use to frame my internet images too, and I often wondered why I stopped... :)
For the moment, it is definitely too much work, but I would create the frame in PS, just to see what the final image might look like as a framed product, since this frame structure represents my framing material, except for the colour. The frame has a light silver and gold leaf tone to it, and the black inner bevel is cotton covered, which extends about one inch wide from the edge of the outer frame. I have framed my images this way for many, many years.
If you want my PS file, just let me know...
jim k
Morning Fog, Long Beach, West Coast Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada, 1985
http://largeformatgroupimages.jimkit...0713_frame.jpg
Having a play with a new lens (180mm Commercial Congo). The film holder leaked a bit through the slot (forgot my darkcloth so couldn't shield it effectively) but I don't mind the effect.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4075/...73af75bdcd.jpg
Gallatin River, Montana.
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/6...nrivercopy.jpg
I do occasionally use one and a modest 1 or maybe 2 stops here probably could have helped without flattening the scene. I would have liked to preserve a little hint of color in the sky, but after looking at the slide this weekend on a light-table I think I burned it out completely. Live and learn I guess, it's certainly not my first less-than-optimal large format shot, and surely won't be my last. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by roteague
What a nice commute!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hovmod
A malady that I also suffer from. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by MumbleyJoe
Still love the photo anyway, simply because of what it represents - experiencing the stillness of nature on a personal level.
Nice image! It looks like you have a very nice drive into work too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hovmod
Hei Tormod, hvor er dette? (where is this)?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hovmod
Thanks for the nice comments, everyone.
This is in Fosen, north of Trondheim. I don't commute here normally, I was on my way to a shipyard for a quick job. Fosen is nice though. I had a lovely view behind me as well.
That's where they built "The World" isn't it.
Again, lovely tones
Not to flood the thread with my stuff, but I thought I'd post this as well, the Ektachrome 64 version of the same shot, fresh out of the tank. My first LF colour slide! :yay:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4145/...ff61cc5a_z.jpg
One more, then I'll stop:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4088/...6d0bff5c_z.jpg
Sinar, Schneider 90mm SA, Ektachrome 64
What a wonderful, peaceful place!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hovmod
Two from wonderful Watchung Reservation in New Jersey.
George
I love the one where it looks like you're peering into a cave created by the trees. Great!Quote:
Originally Posted by gbogatko
+1, great picture!Quote:
Originally Posted by dh003i
A Quiet Corner of the Forest
http://www.gildedmoon.com/images/canp/566-1-Web.jpg
Five Mile Creek, near Columbia, CA.
Tachihara 4x5
300 Nikkor-M
Astia 100-F
--P
Preston, very serene, love it.
Great stuff everyone.
Here is one from the plains of eastern New Mexico
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4106/...fd8d70ccf1.jpg
Arca-Swiss 4x5
Efke 25
dr5 processing
Thanks Dareen for the great image from NM. I've photographed there since 1953, I was 6. Your photograph captures what New Mexico looks like..magic left to your vision.
Okutama in Tokyo, Japan
Linhof Master Technika (4x5) on RVP (the old Velvia)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2136/...14232181b2.jpg
Thanks. I like that big wide open in west Texas and New Mexico. Just driving across it is fun and if you get some photos it is even better!Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Curtis
Beautiful image. Did you have any draw left on the bellows on your Tachi with the 300?Quote:
Originally Posted by Preston
Nice and hooray for old Velvia.Quote:
Originally Posted by hiroki
Beautiful image. Did you have any draw left on the bellows on your Tachi with the 300?
Thanks, Sam! I'd have to measure the exact amount of remaining bellows draw, but a rough guess would be about 10mm--not a whole bunch, for sure.
--P
Nice, Preston. Here’s another quiet moment, after emerging from the forest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Preston
Two nights before, I was in those distant mountains – the William O. Douglas Wilderness.
The previous night, I pitched my tent on that nearby ledge.
And here I am now, on another ledge, looking back at where I’ve been – under contrast-bedeviled, early-afternoon sun; a considerable haze in the air; no near-interest subjects striking my fancy. Not really an ideal photographic moment. Or perhaps I was lacking inspiration :(. Yet, I was having so much fun being alone up here … in the quiet :p. I’ll return before the October snows fall.
Tachi 4x5
Fuji A 240mm/9
Ilford FP4+ (in HC-110 – Sol. B)
Lee 2-stop GND on image above tree tops
Epson 4990/Epson Scan
Jim, have you tried creating a PS "action" to automate the process?Quote:
Originally Posted by jim kitchen