Re: 14x20 ULF In Practice
Have you looked into the cost of having 14x20 film holders specially made? It might be sobering.
Consider 16x20 and a razor blade.
I personally can't imagine carrying a camera as large as you propose plus an 11x14 reducing back, plus 11x14 holders. Use the razor blade some more if you really want 11x14.
I admire your enthusiasm and I don't mean to be a wet blanket. If you want to restrict yourself to a studio, I can maybe see it. But the thought of carrying all the necessary equipment makes me feel faint!
~Will (who's pretty much met his match at 12x20...)
Re: 14x20 ULF In Practice
Will, that is why we use the rolling carts!
Re: 14x20 ULF In Practice
One approach that I would take is to purchase a Chamonix 11x14 and make or have someone make you a custom back extension for 14x20.
http://www.piercevaubel.com/cam/roc/roc.extension.htm
I have seen a 14x17 back extension made to fit an 11x14 view camera. A 14x20 back extension seems like it would be a very plausible unit to have and shoot with. First though I'd seriously consider the format size that you want to shoot. I love the 11x14 format, but if I were to start over, I'd increase the 14 inch dimension by a few inches. Just because someone else shoots 14x20, no reason for you to copy that format. You just might see things as more square or more panoramic.
As far as film holders go:
Chamonix 12x20 $585.00
Chamonix 16x20 $695.00
I don't recall if I bought my 3 Chamonix 11x14 holders new or pre-owned, but new ones now go for $540.00 each. I could have easily got by with 2 based on shooting with my 11x14 over the past years. I bet you that Chamonix could make 14x20 holders for around $650.00? each. Doubt that you'd never have the need for more than 2 14x20 holders.
Also how would you transport your camera seems to be dictated by where and what you shoot. My favorite places are the gorges in New England... a rolling cart out of the question for me. For me, hiking up gorges dictated my switching to an 8x10 camera that I was able to backpack in. Tried it once with my 11x14 in a backpack, but hiking with it up 4th class "trails" proved to be too dangerous for me.
Good luck and if you really like the 14x20 format ... go for it.
Re: 14x20 ULF In Practice
Richard Ritter could make the camera and holders as well.
Re: 14x20 ULF In Practice
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Jim Fitzgerald
Richard Ritter could make the camera and holders as well.
Thanks for adding in Richard. Ironically he's only a couple of hours ride north of me. Personally use Chamonix LF and ULF, but over the years have know of a few other photographers that used Ritter's cameras and universally they all loved them.
Re: 14x20 ULF In Practice
Any images of your rolling cart? So wish I could use one on the trails and up the gorges down here here in New England.
Re: 14x20 ULF In Practice
The Nikkor M 450 mm (stopped down) is often considered a good first lens for ULF. The 19 in Dagor (stopped down) should also cover 14 x 20.
Re: 14x20 ULF In Practice
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Originally Posted by
Jim Fitzgerald
Richard Ritter could make the camera and holders as well.
And for a better price than the Chamonix. Lighter, too, and sturdy enough judging from another 14x20 users comments a couple years back. If you're serious give him a call.
Re: 14x20 ULF In Practice
Hi SLVRGLTN,
I have asked myself this question wehter to upgrade or not. Coming from 4x5 and 8x10 I have been keen on 16x20.
I mainly take landscape, architecture, industry, only b/w but also wetplate in full plate/8x10. At the moment I am printing exclusivly wet or on contact pt/pd and carbon.
Finally I decided against .. for the time being. Main reasons have been bulkiness not only with the camera but also with the sometimes necessary two tripods. The invest from the very first beginning: camera, lens(es), holder(s), film.
I am just creating my own workflow with scanning 4x5/8x10 and print negatives on a cheep used epson 7800 for contacts, either pt/pd or carbon. So my resulting negatives can (potentially) up to 24 inches wide and what ever long. This is a size I probably need some years to handle in carbon ;-)
In that way there is enough money and room left to buy as much film and chemicals as I ever want ;-). With my Technika and 3 lenses and some holders on tour with my motor bike? No problem. Easy travelling ...
I am flexible with my tools, can easily repair, replace or extend them without asking a specialist or to save money before.
To be honest I am thinking about constructing my own 50x70cm or larger. But it is more the challenge with building a CNC molding cutter, constructing building and improving ;-)
horst