4x10 how does it work and what do I need

After seeing all those beautifull images of the 4x10 size I’m getting more and more interested to use this.

I have a Chamonix 045F-2, on the website of Chamonix viewcameras I did not see a 4x10 back.
Also I believe I have to cut my own film for this 8x10 -> 4x10

I have 3 lenses: 90mm, 150mm and 300mm are the still good ?
What kind of filmholders do I need ?
For development, as I don’t have a darkroom I need to buy a 8x10 Stearman or something else.

As I’m hopefully going to the French Pyrenees this August, this will be a good place to use this size.

Patrick

Not to dissuade you in any way

I wanted a 4X10 negative too

I decided 6X17 roll film and gear was so affordable

and I can optically enlarge

I took the other path

The Chamonix cameras are not modular. There is a 4x10 model and you can use a 8x10 camera and expose half sheets. For a 4x10 camera you need 4x10 holders and you can cut fill or buy it in 4x10 size

(Ilford offers this size on their annual special purchase program)

Incorrect

https://www.chamonixviewcamera.com/cameras/45h1

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Originally Posted by Delfi_r

The Chamonix cameras are not modular. There is a 4x10 model and you can use a 8x10 camera and expose half sheets. For a 4x10 camera you need 4x10 holders and you can cut fill or buy it in 4x10 size

(Ilford offers this size on their annual special purchase program)

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Patrick, I use a Chamonix 410N3 with Chamonix film holders and like it a lot. It's actually played a large role in keeping my sanity, such as it is, through Covid. The lenses you currently have will not cover the 4x10 format with the possible exception of the 300mm. Which one do you own? I use a 110mm Super Symmar, which absolutely needed a center filter on 4x10, a 210 Apo Sironar-S, and a 300mm Docter Optics Apo Germinar.

I am not really familiar with the Stearman you mentioned, but I did take a quick look at it. If it will hold 4x10 sheets without them slipping out it should work fine. I use a JOBO 3005 Expert drum which is great.

So addictive... lately I've been thinking a lot about 4x10 Wet Plate ;)

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Originally Posted by Christopher Barrett

So addictive... lately I've been thinking a lot about 4x10 Wet Plate ;)

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Yes please!

I like the panorama format for many subjects as well, but I wouldn't want to be limited to it.

So, how about 8x10 and just crop when you want that panorama? Then you could make an 8x10 print too, and anything in between.

Would it really be more economical to get a dedicated 4x10 camera and cut down 8x10 film? Are you really sure you want to limit yourself to that format?

Personally, I'd want the flexibility, but many see format constraints as a creative advantage.

Best,

Doremus

If you are in to wide views you can crop to the subject, wherever it is in the frame. Easy to make square - 4x4, 1:1.25 - 4x5, 1:1.5 - 4x6, 1:2 - 4x8 and 1:2.5 - 4x10 and then crop further to a 1:3 ratio with 3.33x10 or 1:4 with 2.5x10.

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Originally Posted by Doremus Scudder

I like the panorama format for many subjects as well, but I wouldn't want to be limited to it.

So, how about 8x10 and just crop when you want that panorama? Then you could make an 8x10 print too, and anything in between.

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what about an 8x10 camera, and a half dark slide--two panoramas per sheet of film. I actually don't know how well that would work, but it would be less annoying than cutting film in the dark (I cut 5x7 into 4 3.5x2.5 for my baby linhof, and it very annoying to have to do.) I would also worry about flare from one photo bleeding into the other...