Oh, that poses the next, hopefully last question: Would you ask for a thinner material?
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I don't think it warrants thinner material, I think regular will be fine.
If the camera only used 650mm, I'd ask for thicker, weatherproof bellows.
Hello everyone, I am a happy owner of a toyo 810M and now also of an 810MII with bellows to be repaired. The toyo is a real rock. Here a shot with the 155 Grandagon and the bed folded down. Thanks Ari for all the advice, had I read the post before I would not have purchased version II.
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Awesome!
The thread that keeps on giving.
Watch out for your back if you hike long distances with the Toyo.
The back is safe. I don't think about wearing toyo 8x10 and lens copal 3 on my back. For hard work I use this one. I don't understand, some photos are scanned straight and others upside down
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Bellows and front frames for 8X10M and 8X10MII are not identical. When the Robos and the G2 cameras appeared the front frames of the bellows were changed (enlarged slightly). The front standards of the 4X5G2 and Robos as well as the 5X7 and 8X10 G2 cameras are thinner than the earlier G versions. If you mount a G bellows on a Robos or G2 camera, you will not be able to conveniently mount a Toyo recessed lensboard or adapter board. It's true, on the 810M and MII cameras it makes no difference in the usability of any lensboard.
Neal is correct: The specifications for the M and MII are slightly different with the biggi being the MII's reversible front standard allowing you to use a 800mm lens. The factory bellows length is 720mm which is long enough for me to use the 610 Apo Nikkor but not long enough for the 760 Apo Nikkor - close but not quite there. Luckily I bought the camera as a package which included all 3 bellows and use the long (1200mm) bellows for the 760. Before I bought the MII I had (and still have) the 810G for which I purchased a leather bag bellows for online for about $250. Even though I now have the Toyo bag bellows I kind of prefer to continue using the leather bellows even though its frame fits rather snugly in the standard. Due to the camera's weight you'll probably run into torque issues on the head - especially if you are using a ball head. Read my earlier posts in this thread on how I successfully dealt with the side to side torque and then the mounting screw torque. I've been using the camera ever since with a ball head and to date haven't had a recurrence of either issue.
Thomas
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