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How about some infrared images
I'd like to see some shots, especially those on the old kodak infrared.
This one was shot on some VERY old film, and it was tempermental to say the least. I have no idea why it vignetted the way it did, it wasn't the camera doing it. Shot at the hang glider launch on the brow of Pigeon Mountain near Lafayette, Ga. USA
HIE 4x5 Anba Ikeda 150mm Caltar R72 filter
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Heres another at Providence Canyon in Southwest Georgia, USA. The film behaved much better on this one. HIE in a 4x5 Anba Ikeda 150mm Caltar R72 filter
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Send me some of that old kodak stuff and i'd be glad to shoot it. Until then, here's one from Zion on maco ir820.
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Here's a couple made on MACO IR820.
And a couple made on HIE.
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Good stuff Al! Thats the kind of shots I was wanting to see, different past the obvious IR look.
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Beaver Pond at the local x-country ski area. Rollei IR film at iso 25 with a R72 filter.
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old Kodak IF
of, umm, old Kodak and the Genesee River ;-p
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wonderful thread, great photos! Wish I could contribute :-(
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Once again Maco IR820 with R72 filter. Country churchyard outside of Gatton Qld.
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Maco 820 IR c with 87 filter pt/pd print (hope this loads). BTW the image is of a lawn farm.
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Thats some good examples. Anybody have anything new lately?
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Here are a couple that I made on MACO 862c Infrared with my Linhof Technika IV, Schneider Symmar 150mm, and a Hoya R72 infrared filter. The EI is 1.5 !!!
The first one is a house that has a mine working (unseen) down behind it in the river.
http://www.photo-artiste.com/images/...lch2008big.jpg
This one is a scene of Anasazi ruins.
http://www.photo-artiste.com/images/...wer2008big.jpg
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By comparison, this scene was made with Ilford SFX using a Bronica SQ-A (6x6) and a Cokin 007 (89B) infrared filter. Although SFX is sensitive only in the very near IR, it is possible to use an EI of 12 with an infrared filter.
http://www.photo-artiste.com/images/...wer2007big.jpg
I should mention that unlike MACO/EFKE IR films, Ilford's sensitivity in the IR is equal to the visible red. This means that you can use a Cokin 003 red filter and still get a partial Wood effect. In this case, use an EI of 25.
SFX has a very nice tonality, even when not using infrared filters.
Now if we could convince Ilford to use this coating on sheets!
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al olson
By comparison, this scene was made with Ilford SFX using a Bronica SQ-A (6x6) and a Cokin 007 (89B) infrared filter. Although SFX is sensitive only in the very near IR, it is possible to use an EI of 12 with an infrared filter.
http://www.photo-artiste.com/images/...wer2007big.jpg
I should mention that unlike MACO/EFKE IR films, Ilford's sensitivity in the IR is equal to the visible red. This means that you can use a Cokin 003 red filter and still get a partial Wood effect. In this case, use an EI of 25.
SFX has a very nice tonality, even when not using infrared filters.
Now if we could convince Ilford to use this coating on sheets!
Nice shots Al. Next time I'm out west we will need to go shooting!
BTW, your film carrier was shipped today.
Don Bryant
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Thanks, Don, both for the compliment and for sending the film carriers. I hope to see you out this way again soon. We are not lacking for interesting subject matter in this area and it is great to show other photographers around.
This invitation goes for anyone on this forum. If you are in the area, give me a shout. We can go out and burn some film or just sit around and talk photography.
Best,
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Here's one using Rollei 400 IR and a #29 filter. Generous exposure and development have given a slight IR effect.
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I posted this one on the landscape thread:
http://www.largeformatphotography.in...9&d=1215494419
Macophot 820 IRc, an 87 filter IIRC.
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Here's one from July. Efke IR820, Hoya R72 filter.
Paul
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Paul,
That's an awesome shot!! I bet that one looks great at about 20x30 :D Thanks for sharing!
-Brian
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Brian - thank you for the kind words.
Here's another from the same day.
Paul
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Al, how is the grain with the Ilford SFX? I have heard conflicting reports. Thanks for your thoughts. Nice work, by the way.
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Merg, in examining a 16x16 print (made from a 6x6 neg) of the image I posted above I find that the grain is detectable in the clouds if you examine it closely, but not noticeable from a viewing distance. The grain is not detectable in the texture of the stone and vegetation.
I like the tonality of this film and expose it without filters as well. I prefer to print at higher contrast, somewhere around grade 3 to 3.25, which for ruins gives me a look that I like.
I hope I am being helpful.
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Al, thank you. That is what I was hoping to hear. I will give it a try in 120. Do you recall what developer you used? Do you think a Wratten 25 would alter the result significantly or would an 89B be necessary.
I appreciate your help.
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You're welcome, Merg. I am happy to share everything I know. It isn't much, but anyway a start.
I have been using the Cokin filters on my Bronica 6x6: 003 at EI 25 and 007 at EI 12 for bright sunlight. The 007 has a cutoff at around 720nm similar to the R72 (I think this is the same as the 89B) while the 003 is similar to the Wratten A (#25).
I have been getting a nice Wood Effect with the 007 and the results with the 003 give a partial effect. In late afternoon light the shadow details get buried with the 007 but hold up better with the 003.
Since it is easy to swap the Cokins in and out of the filter holder I often do an exposure with one filter, change the exposure and then do one with the other filter. On a few occasions I have preferred the 003 exposure.
I use the zone focusing scales on my lenses to set my depth of field with a slight nudge to closer focus to accommodate the infrared focal length, keeping the aperture at f/16 whenever possible. Slow shutter speeds at an EI of 12, but not as slow as working with the MACO/Efke with an EI of 1.5.
I have gone back to using D-76 for all my b&w films. Development is with a JOBO CPP-2 and I use the temperatures/times as cited on the Ilford data sheets.
Based on my good experiences I have stocked up with 20 rolls in case they quit making it again. I hope you like your results.
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Al, I appreciate your time and information. I have everything but the film, and will take care of that detail this morning.
Thanks again,
Merg
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Steve M Hostetter
..... Posey County IN
Looks like 35 mm not large format ...
Don Bryant
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I've posted this before I think, but in the interest of reviving this thread
I'll add a shot or two.
Keep this thread going guys
Faxon's Yucca at Dagger Flats, Big Bend National Park, Wista 4x5, 110mm lens, Rollei IR, Hoya R72
http://www.joeforks.com/yucca_faxoniana_W002.jpg
http://www.joeforks.com/yucca_faxoniana_W001.jpg
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Steve M Hostetter
Rose
No, that is not a rose.
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D. Bryant
Looks like 35 mm not large format ...
Don Bryant
No actually it's a 12x20 something must have happened in compression
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Don Hutton
No, that is not a rose.
Ok Don I give up... what is it
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Steve M Hostetter
Rose
How about posting LF images not 35 mm.
Don Bryant
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D. Bryant
How about posting LF images not 35 mm.
Don Bryant
if you want to address me you can use my name.. and you are wrong this is a LF image
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How about some tech details, is that first one EIR? How did you get the interesting color on your rose that looks like a tulip?
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Gary,, I assume you are talking to me,, the first one was converted to IR as was the second
I don't even own a 35mm camera
thx
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that was mislabled... your right it is a tulip ... If you don't like you can have it removed i'm sure the moderator will come to your emotional rescue :D
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Steve M Hostetter
the first one was converted to IR as was the second
How do you convert to IR?
Don Bryant
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D. Bryant
How do you convert to IR?
Don Bryant
You put on your spectacles with custom 87 lenses, and while you can't see anything, you do some dramatic tweaking in photoshop and then post 'em and hope everyone is too ignorant to guess....
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Did dah dah dah don just call dah dah dah don a dummy
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he studied weston but was only interested in the naked boy years
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Joe,
Your Yucca photos are stunning. A wonderful application of IR. I would love to see the prints.
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Steve M Hostetter
he studied weston but was only interested in the naked boy years
We're discussing people trying to fake infrared - and suddenly you bring up young boys... A little worrying?
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No your offering a critique for images without permission.. Quite frankly judging from your few posted images you couldn't tell a point and shoot from a pinhole
Now lets stop this crazy exchange and get on with scanning and posting ,, ok
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"Conversion to IR" is at best a misunderstanding. If the film isn't IR sensitive, there is no IR image. The "best" that can be done is a false-colour image, an IR image is impossible.
This one is IR, though:
http://www.bruraholo.no/bilder/skog-lith.jpg
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Steve M Hostetter
No your offering a critique for images without permission.. Quite frankly judging from your few posted images you couldn't tell a point and shoot from a pinhole
I didn't offer any critique. If you don't know a rose from a tulip that's your issue. If you have young boys on your mind, that's your issue too.
However, you should know that you are being extended some considerable courtesy by not having your images commented on.
I'd love to know which images I've posted which are really rubbish (in your esteemed opinion of course)? Post the thread and post number, so all can have a good look at what garbage looks like (and before you get too smart for yourself, the snaps of the Chamonix 5x7 don't count)...
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ok big D you win I have issues because i'm not a flower person, you got me there
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the comment about little boys just reflects my opinion about how you are acting is all nothing more contort it how you wish
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Steve M Hostetter
Quite frankly judging from your few posted images you couldn't tell a point and shoot from a pinhole
You not going to post which of my images offend you? Can't find them now? Why's that Steve? They don't exist and you just made that up?...
If you're going to level a critque at me, be man enough to let me know which image of mine you're referring to. Right now I can only presume you've never seen an image of mine and that makes you both a liar and a fool.
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sorry for posting those Gary ,, I had no idea everyone was going to be so hardcore about converted images and the like .. You have my permission to have these removed if you like ... No big deal to me