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First Chamonix Shoot Out
I know it's a short notice, but we are going to have our first Chamonix shoot out this Sunday at Walt Disney Concert Hall.
So far we have 7 confirmed folks willing to get up early to take some shots at the famed architecture bathed in soft morning sunlight. Many people will meet for the first times too. All are from this forum!
Chamonix 4x5, 7x17, 8x20 and 20x24 cameras will show up and be caressed and fondled. After the shoot, it's breakfast on Hugo.
Please join us if you are not too far away and can get up early.
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It's a bit far to drive for a Sunday morning breakfast from Portland OR but should be fun. Hope to see some photos from the outing.
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I wish if folks would photograph the inside for once.
Be careful boys.
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David,
We meet around 6-7 before the sun comes out at the top level of the parking lot across the concert hall. I would like to see you.
Jan,
We will have at least one DSLR to document this event. Well, I believe we will have chance to meet later.
Vinny,
I haven't been inside yet. Lighting conditions? How wide the lens do you think people should bring?
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Hugo Zhang
David,
We meet around 6-7 before the sun comes out at the top level of the parking lot across the concert hall. I would like to see you.
Jan,
We will have at least one DSLR to document this event. Well, I believe we will have chance to meet later.
Vinny,
I haven't been inside yet. Lighting conditions? How wide the lens do you think people should bring?
I'd suggest the equivalent of 17mm to 28mm in full frame 35mm, depending what format you are using. Longer lenses are fine too, but to get the building and the sky lone might need wide. Of course the roof structure is remarkable so one need not shoot the whole building,
I'll be happy to take anyone from West Los Angeles is they love LF/ architecture.
I'll be shooting the architecture with 4x5, the photographers with DLR's and share with you a modest surprise.
Thanks Hugo!
Asher
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It would be nice to meet in person.
My family is going to participate in a charity run/walk in West Los Angeles. Registration is Sunday morning at 8:00 a.m.
Maybe I can shoot down the freeway, say hi, head back home, pick up the gang, and run to W. LA.
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Hey...that's great!
I might be able to come. I'm actually working across the street at the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion the night before, rehearsing Mozart's Don Giovanni.
I documented the construction of Disney Hall (including the interior) from 2000 - 2003 BF (before film), albeit with a dSLR. I've had a little site up since the start of the project here: http://home.pacbell.net/viapiano/gehry/gehryindex.html
This photo was made from the roof of the parking structure you're meeting at.
It is an amazing work of engineering and design...and still my favorite building in LA. It has such a presence...and I'm lucky enough to work there regularly in my capacity as guitarist for the LA Philharmonic!
Maybe I'll see everyone down there. I'd love to make some 4x5 images of it, in fact I was thinking that tonight as I was looking at it after dark.
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David Karp
Time?
Sounds like "morning" which is up to interpretation, but it sure ain't 10 AM.
Depending on how you wish to photograph the building, perhaps before dawn so one can catch the first rays of dawn?
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Walter Calahan
Sounds like "morning" which is up to interpretation, but it sure ain't 10 AM.
Depending on how you wish to photograph the building, perhaps before dawn so one can catch the first rays of dawn?
What time is dawn? Where will the sun rise?
Some may choose other angles. you cannot photograph inside the Hall.
Asher
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PViapiano
Hey...that's great!
I might be able to come. I'm actually working across the street at the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion the night before, rehearsing Mozart's
Don Giovanni.
I documented the construction of Disney Hall (including the interior) from 2000 - 2003 BF (before film), albeit with a dSLR. I've had a little site up since the start of the project here:
http://home.pacbell.net/viapiano/gehry/gehryindex.html
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photo was made from the roof of the parking structure you're meeting at.
It is an amazing work of engineering and design...and still my favorite building in LA. It has such a presence...and I'm lucky enough to work there regularly in my capacity as guitarist for the LA Philharmonic!
Maybe I'll see everyone down there. I'd love to make some 4x5 images of it, in fact I was thinking that tonight as I was looking at it after dark.
Hi Paul,
What instrument do you play. I too have tried to document Walt disney concery Hall from the outset. Also we have a collection of pretty interesting pictures by different local photographers on my website here . My wife and I are pasionate about the L.A. Philaharmonic and this is the site I brought and suprised Hugo with to test his 7x17" Chamonix, which is in itself a beauty in its own right!
Not only is Frank Gehry's building magnificent, but it really is the product of vision, purpose, sedication and hard work of a core of dedicated philanthropists and leaders who guided this project against almost impassable obstacles. The orchestra is world class. The Professional organization behind it is truly at the pinnacle of success and the results of a clear vision and single minded devotion to the goal. This is essential what we need as photographers, musicians and any great human endeaver.
So for me this shoot is particularly heartfelt. Add to that the chance of meeting a bunch of guys dedicated to LF and ULF is too much for me to miss!
I look forward to meeting you!
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Asher,
Can you ask Wendy to recommend a nice place for breakfast/brunch nearby for 8-10 people? It looks cloudy today and the sun won't come out till 10am according to the weather forecast. If tomorrow is the same, we are going to have a late breakfast/brunch.
Thanks for introducing to this beautiful place!
Hugo
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I may be able to make with my Sinar in 4x5 configuration.
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Mark Woods
I may be able to make with my Sinar in 4x5 configuration.
Hi Mark,
I visited your website and really enjoyed your commercial work and how you seemlessly transitioned from one client to another. The that was then and this is now theme from the beginning transports us through the rest of your tour! Kudus!
Think of a wide lens! what will you have? Do you have a Graflok back? That would intereset me?
Asher :)
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Thank you Asher. I took a quick look at the site you administer, and I book marked it. Very cool. I'm still trying to get my larger tripod to work right before I make a decision. But I do have a 4x5 Graflok back.
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Asher Kelman
What time is dawn? Where will the sun rise?
Some may choose other angles. you cannot photograph inside the Hall.
Asher
Hi Asher:
Sunrise tomorrow in LA will be at approximately 06:35 and 96.4 degrees magnetic heading. By 08:00, the sun will be at a 15 degree azimuth and at 109.6 degrees magnetic. 10:00 you have a 30 degree azimuth and 135 degree magnetic.
Enjoy the shoot everybody, and look forward to hearing all about it!
Jack
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I have been informed that my plan to run downtown for a quick hello and leave home at 7:15 a.m. will not get us to west L.A. in time to register for the walk.
Will some of you really be there at 6:00 a.m.? I might still try to come by sans camera, say hi meet a few of you, and then get home a bit before 7:00.
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Hugo:
Which parking lot are you referring to? 2nd Street or Grand Ave?
According to the WDCH web site, the parking lots open at 7:00 am on Sat. and Sun.
My wife and I plan on being there but only as onlookers (if you do not mind) and plan on having Dim Sum at the Empress Pavilion restaurant in China Town.
Looking forward to meeting you tomorrow, Howard Tanger
lotusmk9@adelphia.net
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Howard,
I was talking about the parking lot facing the concert hall. Thanks for the reminder. Maybe I should arrive at 7 when it opens.
Dim Sum is not a bad idea at all. We will see. :)
Hugo
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Note that half of the sidewalk belongs to the Music Center, where tripods are prohibited. The other half belongs to city of LA and is fine.
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From the above posts it looks like arrival time is 7:00 a.m., which is too late for me to make my other commitment. Sorry I will miss meeting all of you.
Perhaps we can try something similar another time.
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hugo,
i'm going to come out at 7am if i can get my sleepy head out of bed.
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Hi Hugo!
Thanks for putting together this event. Chiyoko and I truly enjoyed ourselves. Meeting all the photographers and seeing those beautiful cameras was a delight.
So where did you and the gang go for brunch? After stuffing ourselves with Dim Sum we arrived home and had to take a nap.
Thanks again, Howard & Chiyoko Tanger
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Hey Hugo,
It was really great to meet you and see the Chamonix in action! I got a few shots with my Sinar 8x10, that had half the real estate of the 8x20's. Good times to spend with other LFers and Asher.
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When does the Hugo Tour play Seattle?
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Hello Hugo ... many thanks also for coordinating this event. Had fun breaking out the 8 x 20. Great to meet all the folks that came out. Sorry I missed lunch!!
Thanks,
Rick
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It was indeed a great outing! I enjoyed meeting all the interesting folks that showed up. We should do this more often.
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Just a few quick snaps from the outing:
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I am really sorry to have missed meeting all who came. I agree it would be nice to try for something like it in the future.
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I forgot to ask. It was really foggy in west L.A. today. Was it the same downtown? Sure looks like it from the photos.
I'll bet it made for some pretty cool photos. That building changes so much with the weather and the light. What great fun.
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Marko
Just a few quick snaps from the outing:
Hugo with a 2024? When does Hugo start to shoot 2024?
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Hugo need to buy a fork lift first ;)
Look forward to see some photos from the outing.
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Hi Hugo and friends,
It was great and thank you for both of you and Asher to coordinate this event. It was a pleasure to meet everyone in this forum this morning. I hope everyone will get a great negs out of this shot.
Hugo, I’m sorry I have missed brunch for last minute. I promise will make it up next time. Thanks again for everything and looking forward to next meeting. Happy Thanksgiving to everyone. TT
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David Karp
I forgot to ask. It was really foggy in west L.A. today. Was it the same downtown? Sure looks like it from the photos.
I'll bet it made for some pretty cool photos. That building changes so much with the weather and the light. What great fun.
It was foggy in the morning, but it cleared up later and it did change incredibly - the first two were made before and the last one after brunch. :)
And yes, it was fun, hopefully you'll make it next time.
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Hi Everybody,
The best part for me today is the chance to meet old and new friends. LF is pretty much a solitary hobby for "loners", to have 6-8 people spend a few hours together is such a wonderful experience for me.
There are a few people I wanted to meet couldn't make it today. We all agree that we are going to do this kind of shoot out again.
Thanks, everybody!
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Wow, Hugo you have the most awesome camera I have seen in a long time. That's one big, beautiful camera. How many film holders do you have for it? Do you know the total weight of the camera and a film holder?
Fantastic shoot, I wish I could have been there just to see the equipment and meet the people.
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Well, guys, I really enjoyed meeting everyone. I have to get all the names right. So here goes, as start to let people see what went on.
One of the stars of the event was a walnut 8x20 camera and tripod made by Jim Ftizgerald based on hardware from an old Kodak D2 8x10. He laminated thin strips so he did not need to use a router. This was made in his apartment, not using a workbench or any power tools. The bellows were obviously made new and the rear standard is just the same fittings as the original just wider. The camera was impressive. Jim took a bunch of pictures from early dawn from over Grand Avenue on the top of the parking lot. The sky was misty and the skyline was partly obscured. Later in the day, after breakfast when most everybody else was gone Jim sneaked up to the roof again and shot the WDCH again with the more contrasty but still very special light which was throwing interesting shadows on the steel curves.
The 8x20 film holders are used but slide in well and the system works like a charm. Congrats. "Los" was hanging around being very friendly to everyone and was taken with Jim's work.
http://www.openphotographyforums.com...8685_Small.jpg
Los and Jim
http://www.openphotographyforums.com...8690_small.jpg_MG_8690_small.jpg
Los and Jim
http://www.openphotographyforums.com...8692_small.jpg
Peeking in at the Chamonix 20x24!
I am looking forward to see the results of the shoot and especially Jim's work since to take pictures early in the morning an uncivilized hour is one thing, but to build the bloody camera, that's passion!
Asher
More tomorrow! A whole bunch more cameras to cover!
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AAAAGGGGH!!! I am sorry I couldn't be there..
It sounds that you guys had a lot of fun.
Hugo, Tri and everybody else, I am looking forward to see you the nest time.
DID you guys take a picture of the all group?
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BOY, that 8x20!!! That would make a hell of a stereo camera. :cool:
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domenico Foschi
AAAAGGGGH!!! I am sorry I couldn't be there..
It sounds that you guys had a lot of fun.
Hugo, Tri and everybody else, I am looking forward to see you the nest time.
DID you guys take a picture of the all group?
I'll post more tomorrow, pretty well everyone was covered! I prmise you will be impressed!
Asher
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Just for reference, until we show more pictures and film is processed, we can show what is possible with our little silicon cousins. The grand silver negatives will not mind, I'm sure!
Brian Lowe, Gary Ayala, myself and others have found the WDCH to be a source endless possibilities in composition and effect. See some of their work here . The Frank Gehry masterpiece takes on a different appearance every few minutes as the light is constantly re-distributed uniquely depending on the mist, clouds, hidden pollution, fog or the position of the sun or moon or stars!
I am now working on LF and ULF of this building and am very excited to see all the artistic results that we initiated with everyone's LF and ULF work.
Thanks everyone for being so welcoming and Hugo for setting this up, contacting everyone and working with me several weeks back on with the 7x17" Chamonix. The 20x24" camera is remakabley light compared to the Polaroid 20x24" cameras (which will cause a herniated disk or two, a hernia and even a need for soothing ointments and a donight cushion)!
Asher
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Songyun,
That's Tri's 20x24". I was merely his assistant for fear he steal my Protar lens.:) I have no room for processing 20x24" films. Maybe in a few years when I start the pt/pd printing. The next size for me is 16x20".
Turner and Jan,
That Chamonix 20x24" is about 27 Ibs and the holder is about 7 Ibs each. You will notice that the camera sits on a Ries Junior tripod which is intended for cameras 8x10 and under. On our way back down to the parking, Jim took a picture of me carrying one bag with the 20x24" camera in my right hand and holding another bag containing a 7x17" camera under my left arm and a Ries tripod, two film holders bags plus a bag for my lens, filters and other stuff in my left hand. We walked three levels down without stopping and rest. :)
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Hugo Zhang
Hi Everybody,
The best part for me today is the chance to meet old and new friends. LF is pretty much a solitary hobby for "loners", to have 6-8 people spend a few hours together is such a wonderful experience for me.
There are a few people I wanted to meet couldn't make it today. We all agree that we are going to do this kind of shoot out again.
Thanks, everybody!
I live in Orange County and have been following this thread. I was unable to attend Sunday but hopefull you guys will do it again. As Hugo stated above LF Photography is usually pretty solitary and it would be great fun and rewarding to be with a group of LF people just shooting, talking cameras, film and everything else involved with LF and ULF. 7x17 and the WDCH would be great.
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Hugo, 27 lbs is pretty impressive for a camera this size, my old 8x10 B&J is about 16 lbs and i can't imagine you would have to many lens choice for this camera so that would limit the overal weight quite a bit.
Contact prints from this or your new 16x20 must be something else.
Would be great with a shootout in the NW sometime in the future.
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Sorry I couldn't make it, guys! But with double rehearsals and splitting my time between the opera and Wicked, my schedule was full...sounds like a great time! Keep the photos coming!
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Hugo,
There is no room in a life for sneaking up on insanity, what you need is a 20 x 24 with a 16 x 20 REDUCING BACK. We can't hope to overcome our illness unless we acknowledge our problem. Tri and I are waiting on you; Red Rover Red Rover let Hugo come over! Besides, if you went to the 20 x 24 no one in their right mind would blame you if you needed to expand your darkroom, add a portrait studio, and take up wet plate collodion in those sizes. Gotta run, the misses has her camera radar on and is headed this way with a skillet.....
Sorry I couldn't be on the west coast for this event. When I come out west this summer with the 20 x 24 wetplatecamerapolooza tour maybe we can all meet up and make some time to cross paths.
Monty
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Hugo Zhang
Songyun,
That's Tri's 20x24". I was merely his assistant for fear he steal my Protar lens.:) I have no room for processing 20x24" films. Maybe in a few years when I start the pt/pd printing. The next size for me is 16x20".
Turner and Jan,
That Chamonix 20x24" is about 27 Ibs and the holder is about 7 Ibs each. You will notice that the camera sits on a Ries Junior tripod which is intended for cameras 8x10 and under. On our way back down to the parking, Jim took a picture of me carrying one bag with the 20x24" camera in my right hand and holding another bag containing a 7x17" camera under my left arm and a Ries tripod, two film holders bags plus a bag for my lens, filters and other stuff in my left hand. We walked three levels down without stopping and rest. :)
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A few more big guns:
- Jim Fitzgerald sets up his hand-made 8x20 while Asher takes a photo and Rick Olson looks on.
- Not to be outdone, Rick sets up his shiny new 8x20.
- Mark Woods aims his Rolls.
- Tri Tran and his small camera (11x14)
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I know these do not qualify, but it was fun and I can't resist. Moderators, please delete if you find them too much out of bounds.
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That Fitzgerald dude gets around...I hear he hewed down the walnut tree himself using a sharpened rock twined to a stick.
Wished I had the time to have attended and will definitely plan around the next outing...looking forward to seeing the Chamonix offerings.