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1935 Linhof ,,NORMA'' ???
Linhof ,,NORMA'' ...
Here is a Linhof Camera I did not know about.
Anybody heard of this one?
Not mentioned in the "Linhof Camera Story" book... which is pretty weak on info before the 1950's...
From about 1935 available in 9x12 only.
Mentions the ,,STANDARD'' and ,,Technika'' as more advanced models...
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Re: 1935 Linhof ,,NORMA'' ???
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I had a Technika of that era or maybe a little later at one time. It had the Technika rear movements and was a very compact, but solid, lightweight field camera.
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I wonder if "Norma" as applied to a model of camera meant the same thing to Linhof as it later did to Sinar. Running "norma" through google translate was not helpful. First it auto-recognized it as Spanish. Trying it as a German word was not productive. (The Swiss version of German is what is spoken in Schaffhausen).
I'd be interested to hear from anyone out there who speaks German.
David
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Re: 1935 Linhof ,,NORMA'' ???
"Normal" in German means the same as normal in English. Norma was probably formed from Normal, parallel with Technika, formed from the noun Technik (or adjective, technisch/technische).
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David A. Goldfarb
I had a Technika of that era or maybe a little later at one time. It had the Technika rear movements and was a very compact, but solid, lightweight field camera.
All Technika cameras had a rear frame with movements except for the Standard model for the USA that was to be Berkey’s answer to the Graflex.
The rear swing frame on an all metal folding camera was the basis of Karpf’s patent.
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David Lindquist
I'd be interested to hear from anyone out there who speaks German
I'm originally from Germany (but in the U.S. for 21 years now).
"Norma" just means "the norm" (something usual), then there is the "standard", and the more technical Technika. Adding an "a" is quite normal in German language, think of the camera brand "Exacta" for an "exact" (precision) camera. Same thing.
So where's the mystery? It says right on the product description that was posted by the OP:
Norma: "for the serious amateur"
Standard: "for the professional specialist"
Technika: "peak performance in professional photography"
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giganova
I'm originally from Germany (but in the U.S. for 21 years now).
"Norma" just means "the norm" (something usual), then there is the "standard", and the more technical Technika. Adding an "a" is quite normal in German language, think of the camera brand "Exacta" for an "exact" (precision) camera. Same thing.
So where's the mystery? It says right on the product description that was posted by the OP:
Norma: "for the serious amateur"
Standard: "for the professional specialist"
Technika: "peak performance in professional photography"
Interesante analogía con las definiciones
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Originally Posted by
giganova
I'm originally from Germany (but in the U.S. for 21 years now).
"Norma" just means "the norm" (something usual), then there is the "standard", and the more technical Technika. Adding an "a" is quite normal in German language, think of the camera brand "Exacta" for an "exact" (precision) camera. Same thing.
So where's the mystery? It says right on the product description that was posted by the OP:
Norma: "for the serious amateur"
Standard: "for the professional specialist"
Technika: "peak performance in professional photography"
"Exakta", "Praktica", "Precisa" (camera, balance), "Metallica" ...
"Tessar", "Planar", "Sonnar", "Skopar", "Xenar", "Makro-Kilar", "Sinar" - äääh, oups!
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Daniel Casper Lohenstein
"Exakta", "Praktica", "Precisa" (camera, balance), "Metallica" ...
"Tessar", "Planar", "Sonnar", "Skopar", "Xenar", "Makro-Kilar", "Sinar" - äääh, oups!
And, of course, Leica.
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Worth noting that Porsche, back in the 356 days, offered a model called the "Normal" as well as a higher horsepower version called the "Super".
The name Leica comes from LEItz CAmera, IIRC.
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Bob Salomon
And, of course, Leica.
Yes, but "leic" is written "like", so "Leica" should be "LikeR"...
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Mark Sampson
Worth noting that Porsche, back in the 356 days, offered a model called the "Normal" as well as a higher horsepower version called the "Super".
The name Leica comes from LEItz CAmera, IIRC.
"Normal" is petrol with 91 octane. "Super" is 95 octane. "Super Plus" is 98 octane. When a Porsche ran on "Normal", it was the affordable sports car for the low-income consumer.
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Hi,
Thank you : )!!!
I found this post to be interesting!
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reddesert
"Normal" in German means the same as normal in English. Norma was probably formed from Normal, parallel with Technika, formed from the noun Technik (or adjective, technisch/technische).
After all these years, an explanation for "Norma" engraved on the Sinar rail.
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Jim Noel
After all these years, an explanation for "Norma" engraved on the Sinar rail.
I also think Linhof and Sinar had some legal battles as well but a bit before my time!
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Ig Nacio
Hi,
Thank you : )!!!
I found this post to be interesting!
Thanks. So far I am very entertained with the thread...
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Daniel Casper Lohenstein
"Exakta", "Praktica", "Precisa" (camera, balance), "Metallica" ...
I think Hetchfield said Metallica came from Metal + Liquor, but perhaps he got it from Metal+ Technical+ Camera...
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My dad was an architectural photographer, and purchased a "Norma" around 1960. We always called it a Sinar Standard when the F, P, and C came out. It did say Norma on it but never gave it a thought until it became popular I guess in the 1990s. It was a wonderful camera - I sold it to a photographer in France around 2010. I use an F2 now. It is funny the history of the Norma name was never documented.
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"Norma" just means "the norm" (something usual), then there is the "standard", and the more technical Technika.
This is correct and for the Sinar Norma was the idea, thad all parts fit also for the next generation, so this was the meaning of Norma ( everything has to be in the "norm" means fits together) by Sinar! So you can put some Norma parts in front of your Sinar P to expand for Macro work etc.
Cheers from Sinar Land, Armin
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Armin Seeholzer
This is correct and for the Sinar Norma was the idea, thad all parts fit also for the next generation, so this was the meaning of Norma ( everything has to be in the "norm" means fits together) by Sinar! So you can put some Norma parts in front of your Sinar P to expand for Macro work etc.
Cheers from Sinar Land, Armin
Same for LInhof Kardan cameras since the B and for Technikas since the IV. The only exception with Kardans is after the B they changed the rail so intermediate standards are different. Anything that attaches to the front or back are the same.
Some Other cameras also have standardization.
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Re: 1935 Linhof ,,NORMA'' ???
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Originally Posted by
Armin Seeholzer
This is correct and for the Sinar Norma was the idea, thad all parts fit also for the next generation, so this was the meaning of Norma ( everything has to be in the "norm" means fits together) by Sinar!
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Bob Salomon
Same for LInhof Kardan cameras since the B and for Technikas since the IV. The only exception with Kardans is after the B they changed the rail so intermediate standards are different. Anything that attaches to the front or back are the same.
Some Other cameras also have standardization.
I don't think that Carl Hans Koch or Sinar in 1947 already thought of the F or P cameras of 1970. For me this is a sustainability myth of today.
- What a pity that Sinar never produced a dedicated field camera. At least a good telescope rail like the Toyo VX125 rail, as a basis for a standard setup like the one of the Norma (base tilt). Instead, the F and P cameras have these projecting rise tubes on the standard base, together with a rigid optical bench. I have already thought about installing Norma standards on two Manfrotto macro rails ... - Linhof solved the "field camera" task with the Technika and the Technikardan. But what the Technika would lack - if you really needed that - would be the interchangeable bellows,
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