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is this the angulon we are talking about?
http://www.kenrockwell.com/schneider/90angulon.htm
how about the fujinon 90mm?
Is your Kickstarter live yet? Definately want to consider an early bird offer...
Yeah, that's the one!Quote:
Originally Posted by tenderobject
I can't comment about every 90 out there, but I will say this: we designed the camera to be flexible. The focusing helical has plenty of travel, so it should accept just about any 90mm lens. The ƒ/5.6 lenses won't fit because they're just outrageously large.
Most 90s in the world are these little Angulons and dozens of different variations on the ƒ/8 Super Angulon, from many manufacturers. The ƒ/8 lenses should all fit. They're good and they're cheap, so if you own a $1600 ƒ/5.6 or ƒ6.8 Super Angulon, I recommend that you leave it on the Sinar and buy a $150 beater to use on the Wanderlust.
There are a few 90s out there that go into Copal 00 shutters. Our helical is designed for Copal 0, but well... the camera is plastic and $99. I encourage people to get creative and not fear superglue. :)
Just to add to Ben's post, here is a rear view of the focus helical. The diameter of the red circle is 80mm or 3.1496". This is what your rear element needs to clear. If your 90mm lens is a copal 0 and your rear element is smaller than 80mm or 3.1496" then it will fit.
*** KEEP IN MIND *** This camera IS LIGHT. Im not kidding. The tiny Schneider Angulon 90 ƒ6.8 that we built it around is enough to make it fall forward. You should ALWAYS lay this thing flat on its back with the lens pointing to the sky. Just want to state this right off the bat!!
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No need. Grimes, and probably some Asian outfit on ebay, both sell adapters to install No. 00 shutters in No. 0 holes. I have used them and they work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben Syverson
The lens I'm saving for this camera is a Graphlex Optar WA, 90/6.8, which is even tinier than the Angulon. Ben collected back-focus measurements back up-thread to make sure to accommodate the flange mounting distance of lenses in this category.
Rick "thinking a lens with marginal coverage for 4x5 is a good fit for a camera with no movements" Denney
You could also mount an Arca-Swiss plate on the bottom, one designed for a telephoto lens for an SLR, that is several inches long. That would give it a foot that would keep it from falling forward, and provide some tripod mounting flexibility, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by jnl
Rick "who has already been collecting bits for this camera--a viewer, a Blix rangefinder, a level, etc., to make use of all those accessory shoes" Denney
i can't wait to see the result of this! congrats guys! will definately support this. need to look for a cheap 90mm!
You should ALWAYS lay this thing flat on its back with the lens pointing to the sky. Just want to state this right off the bat!!
MAKE SURE YOUR LENS IS CLOSED IF YOU DO THIS, Infinity focus on a sunny day can start a fire in side your camera. About 30 years ago, Steve Grimes showed me a highly collectible (Luftwaffe?) Leica with a hole burned through the Red shutter curtain.
PS. I've got my 6.8 Angulon ready !
What Tracy is saying is that this is a good survival camera! If you get stranded in the woods while hiking with it, well you will not be without fire:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tracy Storer
In all seriousness, he is correct. If you did not already know this read his post again and keep it in mind. I always keep my lens closed.
Good call Tracy, thanks!
Hi guys,
Amazon finally verified us, so I'm going to submit the Kickstarter right now. I'm not sure how long they take to approve projects these days, but I just wanted to give you the heads up that from this moment on, it could go live at any time.
I'll send another update when the project is approved by the Kickstarter staff so you guys can rush in and claim your early bird spots :)
Ben
Good news! Ben--supposing this all goes according to plan, when would you estimate shipping the cameras? Do you set the deadline for the Kickstarter campaign once you're approved? Have you selected a manufacturer for the mold, and for the product? Thanks.
We have two manufacturers who gave us very competitive bids. If we do make our goal, we'll contact them both and try to figure out which is the best fit. There are two or three minor details (logotype, metal inserts) that we need to work out with them, but we don't anticipate any showstoppers. We've been very careful to design the camera so that it can be easily translated to an injection mold—which includes making wall thicknesses more uniform, drafting angles, rounding corners, and reducing mold axes to cut down on expensive "sliders."Quote:
Originally Posted by BarryS
We set the delivery date to December 2013 to be on the safe side. The lead time on these molds is around three months, so December is a conservative guess. But with manufacturing, we've learned to expect the worst and hope for the best. :)
Thanks for the helpful information. It definitely pays to be conservative on delivery dates. I've supported a few KS projects and it gets ugly when the projects go way over due dates. As long as you keep up good and frequent communications, backers are usually cool.
90mm Optar and/or Angulon ready to go, ready to push the button!
Decembe 2013 a bit late for the project I have on mind (September) but great that it's a go.....
any page we could join for updates like fb groups/twitter as well? :D
Once the KS starts they will be able to automatically send you updates when you pre-order.
Thanks for your effort on this guys. I am updated KS every once in a while looking for the launch. I'm pre-ordering this as soon as it's live. Any sneak-peek on the "levels" of support you included?
You can follow Wanderlust at @wanderlustcam or my personal account at @bensyverson... I think we'll post smaller updates on Twitter and here on LFF, and then roll them into larger updates for Kickstarter so we're not spamming people too much.Quote:
Originally Posted by tenderobject
It turns out that once they approve the project, we get to actually push the button to launch, which is great. Basically once it's approved, I'll post an update with the exact time that we'll take it live. There are 25 super early bird slots, and 25 early bird slots, both of which are nice discounts!
thank you very much ben!
Oh my...can't wait!
Ben, whats the internal diameter and depth of the lens cone, then people can measure the rear element and decided for them self if the lens will fit inside. I assume the len mounting hole is for a Copal 0.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben Syverson
Best of luck.
Because the rear element is conical, it's not especially easy to measure. Justin posted that the ID of the helical is around 80mm... But even if your rear element is wider than 80mm, it could fit, as long as it can clear 80mm at the place where that lip is.Quote:
Originally Posted by SMBooth
I think even the ƒ/5.6 giants could technically fit, but without any clearance to get your fingers or a lens wrench in there to tighten it to the camera. But really, we made this thing for the Angulon ƒ/6.8, and made sure ƒ/8's could fit too. Anything else is probably an expensive lens that you shouldn't put on a $99 camera with a relatively narrow hand grip. The ƒ/5.6 would be so radically front weighted that I guarantee it will slip right out of your hand and land on the pavement, lens-first.
Yup. I'll order one for sure.
Why not make it modular where you can swap out cones for a 90mm or 65mm with a back common for both? I wouldn't buy one if it was for 90mm (already have a camera for that) but if you made one for a 65mm I'd buy one for sure, especially if you can hit $99.
But If its only $99 then why push up the cost by making it modular? Just buy two!
In a nutshell, it doesn't make sense. The cone is the expensive part to produce, and now all of a sudden you need to find a way to attach it to the body, which makes it more complex.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shootar401
So basically, we can sell you a $99 unibody camera, or a $40 camera and $99 lens cone.
Cost aside, why would you want to spend time in the field detaching and reattaching cones? The cone itself is what takes up space and weight, so there's nothing convenient about carrying one body with multiple cones. It's much easier to simply carry multiple cameras.
Unibody is the way to go. It makes the camera tougher, lighter, simpler, cheaper, and reduces a point of entry for light and dust.
I'd still like to see a super-wide-angle model at some point. I'd buy one for a 47 or 58 XL. Bonus points for some sort of collapsible body.
We certainly don't want to rule anything out... I would love to make a version for every major focal length up to 150mm. It really comes down to whether or not this Kickstarter is successful, and if it is, how many production units we sell. The best way you guys can help is to spread the word once we launch!
You guys have my word that I have and will continue spreading the word in Spain! I have a few friends who are going for one.
I can confirm Nicolas is spreading the Word here :)
Then launch it already. Heh. What are you waiting for?
As previously mentioned, they (and we) are waiting for Kickstarter approval:Quote:
Originally Posted by WayneStevenson
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Originally Posted by Ben Syverson
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Originally Posted by Ben Syverson
I know Brian. ;)
By the way, do you have a list of lenses that this works with? Perhaps you can include that information on the very first post?
I have a Super Angulon 90mm f8, and a Nikkor SW 90mm f4.5. They're both big lenses. Will either of them work or will I be needing an Angulon 90mm?
From what Ben has said and from my own guesswork seeing the rendering, probably yes on the 90/8; for sure no on the f/4.5.Quote:
Originally Posted by WayneStevenson
Rick "but a Super Angulon will feel like a heavy lens rubber-banded to a film holder" Denney
Hi everyone,
Good news—Kickstarter approved our project! Of course, they chose today to approve it. We can't launch a new film camera on April Fools Day, so we will launch tomorrow:
April 2, 11 AM Central Standard Time (GMT -6).
We're excited!
Congrats! They DID approve it, right? An April 1st joke would be <cruel>!
You have a link yet?
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Originally Posted by Ben Syverson
I think that today is a great day to launch a new camera!
Bryan "my credit card is ready" a.k.a. Corran
But we're in Daylight Savings Time now... I suppose working in GMT will give the right answer for those vying to be first in line.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben Syverson
Ben, do you know if this will hit infinity focus with the Wollensak f/12.5 90mm? I haven't been able to find any info online as to flange focal length for this one.
Ah, you're right! Because of DST, Chicago is currently GMT -5. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Goldstein
Hmm, I don't know, but I'm hopeful—the FFD for the Angulon is actually a bit less than 90mm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Goldstein
So 11am CST and noon EST? Do you have a link for the project yet?
We'll have the link for you at exactly 11:00 AM CDT / 12:00 EDT, i.e. 40 minutes from now. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by David Aimone
Our clocks went forwards in the UK last weekend to although UTC/GMT is 15:45pm it is actually 16:45pm in the UK. Such a silly piece of bureaucracy.
Shivering in the freezing square with a grillion other people, waiting for the ball to drop... :)
Okay guys, it's live! Here's the link!
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...wide-45-camera
Thank you, and please spread the word!!
EDIT: We have 25 cameras at $49, and when those run out, we have 25 more at $69!
can you purchase two?
Heh. I was the first! There were "zero" backers when I hit the button.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben Syverson
But then I needed several tries to remember my idiot Amazon password. Doh!
Rick "who resisted the option to have Justin hand-deliver it anywhere in the world" Denney
Great, in for one. Thanks for the super early bird special!
Unfortunately, no. Kickstarter has really cracked down. But we could add a reward level for one 90 and one 65, if people wanted both!Quote:
Originally Posted by David Aimone