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Sal, what you say is indeed entirely fair.
On the flip side, a small group of photographers in my area were talking about throwing in together to make a purchase. We'd each get one month round robin with the camera(s). The 7x17 looked like fun. The 14x17 looked awesome. Seemed like an economical rather fun approach to sharing resources. We were thinking about it until this thread appeared, that is... :( :( :(
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Originally Posted by Sal Santamaura
Hugo,
Congratulations! This thread now has over 4300 views!!! By Google standards you must owe the moderators over $2,000. What a great advertisement!
This also means there is great interest in large cameras, no?Quote:
Originally Posted by John Bowen
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Originally Posted by rob
No. Just for the gossip.
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"EPS" has made over 600 anonymous posts, including silly diatribes. "e" has around 300 anonymous posts to his credit, if credit is the right word. Are these initials a way in which people who post here with other names can be ridiculous without taking the blame? Or are people with competing business interests using the forum to sabotage potential competition? Or perhaps it's just verbal masturbation from the very old? I am uneasy about this thread anyway. Usually when business dealings go sour, there are two sides to the story of what happened. Here, everyone seems to know everything without anything being said in public. Although I find the forum useful, I don't think I like it anymore.
This is an unfortunate situation. We are getting e-mails wondering what is going on and I am not sure what to tell people.
It would be helpful if Mr Zang would contact us and give us up to date info.
steve simmons
Steve,
It is an unfortunate situation. But we do have cameras of various sizes up to 20x24 in inventory in China. Anybody interested can PM me for more information.
Hugo Zhang
Many of my readers do not participate in this forum and don't know to PM you here.
steve
Then I will put a little ad in your magazine for your readers. Can you kindly PM me for the rate information?
Thanks.
Hugo
Michael,
I'm "e" and this stands for Emile de Leon. When I joined this forum 6 years ago somehow my name/ikon got reduced from Emile de Leon which I use on this and on all other LF forums I belong to, to an "e" when the servers on this forum were changed. I did not have anything to do with this and I always use my full name on all the other forums I'm apart of. I never bothered to change my ikon on this forum but didn't like it ("e") either. So please don't go assuming that I'm trying to hide my true identity. I'm not. I probably should change my ikon but I'm not exactly computer savvy. IMO there are two views here. One for the business side of things (Kerry's) and one view for the photog who wants the best price for his ULF outfit. Actually 3 views...those on the sidelines waiting to see what happens too with no specific opinion. But, these 2 main views have really nothing to do with the quality of Chaminox cameras which remains to be seen. These 2 views are perhaps mutually incompatible unless business ethics are brought into play instead of the usual cutthroat business tactics which seem so prevalent nowadays. Funny how many people make the remark of..."that's the way business is done" or something similar and don't give a rats ass about who gets screwed in the process, even one of their own. I've been in retail for over 12 years, I own a retail gift shop. I've seen a lot of stuff go down in that time. One lesson I've learned is that the avg customer will take a trip around the world to save 50 cents even though it cost him his arm and a leg in the end. I've seen that time and time again. Not all customers are like this though. I've also seen manufactures that cant make up their mind if they want to do retail or wholesale or both. Not good. As an example of unethical business practice I've seen Blo*kbuster video (several years ago now) come to my town and take a calculated loss on their Video rentals (by undercharging everyone else) for 1 or 2 years till all the little mom and pop video stores are out of business then raise prices back to normal once they have killed the competition. This was the word straight from a Blo*kbuster manager that was also a customer of mine. I have a pet peeve about this sort of business practice as I have seen so many small mom and pop outfits go out of business not because of their way they do business but because they acted fairly in a business sense and got shafted in the end. I don't really have a side here Chaminox-wise as this does not affect me in the least whether this camera company succeeds or not or whether they have good service or not. I just was surprised when after several months of Kerry's preparations and spoken enthusiasum on this forum and elsewhere for this company...then suddenly it went 180 degrees in the other direction as evidenced by his only response in this thread. Just kind of fishy smelling that's all. I'm not satisfied with the companies responses either. Emile.