Re: The "Art" School is Dead
When I was college age, RISD was highly regarded on the east coast
https://www.risd.edu/student-financi...stimated-costs
You're looking at $79k now and that includes mandatory health insurance; there is obviously no interest in trying to keep things affordable.
Even the elite and more practical Bowdoin is less at $78k
https://www.bowdoin.edu/admissions/c...aid/index.html
and they have an average financial aid package of $62k because of their multibillion dollar endowment.
If you're ever wandering through Maine and need some indoors time, Bowdoin and Bates both have EXCELLENT art museums open to the public.
(I'm a college dropout from WPI, an engineering school and my two years of college was invaluable and practical. I got excellent financial aid so it was cheaper than UMaine, and I paid off the two years of loans within a year)
Re: The "Art" School is Dead
That's a very interesting article. It certainly is a lovely building, proof that mismanagement can spoil anything, i guess.
I taught at the college level for 18 years and left with a very bitter taste in my mouth.
Most likely my own fault though.
Apprenticeships seem to be the way to go these days
Of course there is no guarantee of getting a decent one.
Too many students (my observation) feel they are owed an education
Maybe because the tuition is obscene.
I worked through college, lived at home and graduated with no loans taken
Of course tuition was a lot less back then in the Pleistocene.
Re: The "Art" School is Dead
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John Kasaian
That's a very interesting article. It certainly is a lovely building, proof that mismanagement can spoil anything, i guess.
I taught at the college level for 18 years and left with a very bitter taste in my mouth.
Most likely my own fault though.
Apprenticeships seem to be the way to go these days
Of course there is no guarantee of getting a decent one.
Too many students (my observation) feel they are owed an education
Maybe because the tuition is obscene.
I worked through college, lived at home and graduated with no loans taken
Of course tuition was a lot less back then in the Pleistocene.
Apprenticeships are hard to come by. Internships usually pay nothing, most photographers want assistants with a modicum of training, at least Community College level.
Re: The "Art" School is Dead
My first college, State Normal Illinois I worked as student janitor nights, 1969
My pay was $1.55 hour plus night pay, so $1.70. Far less than my High School era pay
However that pittance was enough to pay tuition, books and campus dorm with 3 squares
and Beer!
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Originally Posted by
John Kasaian
That's a very interesting article. It certainly is a lovely building, proof that mismanagement can spoil anything, i guess.
I taught at the college level for 18 years and left with a very bitter taste in my mouth.
Most likely my own fault though.
Apprenticeships seem to be the way to go these days
Of course there is no guarantee of getting a decent one.
Too many students (my observation) feel they are owed an education
Maybe because the tuition is obscene.
I worked through college, lived at home and graduated with no loans taken
Of course tuition was a lot less back then in the Pleistocene.
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Inflation calculator says that's $13.72 today. When I was a student worker we were not allowed anything over minimum - $5.15 at the time ($7.81 with inflation). Current student worker rates here are $11 and up depending on job and experience.
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I quit many jobs, often rehired
I quit for vacation road trips
I found after 6 weeks I could go home and work
As you know I was put to pasture 2008, really pissed me off
now Glad!
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'Happening' ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happening
SAIC Retro Beggar https://www.saic.edu/
https://sites.saic.edu/artauction/
I know a few of the exhibitors and faculty
Tania Bruguera was in my cohort
She is ex Cuban Rad
I advertised a 'Happening' in my tiny town, 1967
Nobody came
LOL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
John Kasaian
That's a very interesting article. It certainly is a lovely building, proof that mismanagement can spoil anything, i guess.
I taught at the college level for 18 years and left with a very bitter taste in my mouth.
Most likely my own fault though.
Apprenticeships seem to be the way to go these days
Of course there is no guarantee of getting a decent one.
Too many students (my observation) feel they are owed an education
Maybe because the tuition is obscene.
I worked through college, lived at home and graduated with no loans taken
Of course tuition was a lot less back then in the Pleistocene.
Back then, there were no government loans to drive up tuition costs. Colleges had to compete for broke students. In its effort to help everyone get a college education, the government has indebted half the younger population as the money rolls in for administrators, professors, and others working at universities who push college on people who frankly should take up a trade. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
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The bar has been well and truly lowered. It's all about the money.
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It is about money. See: https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/researc...cation-funding I would think that less and less public money goes to public colleges - from reading this report. As far as private colleges and art schools where their money comes from, who knows?