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Very nice! What's your take on using Portra 400 vs. Astia? Did you carry around both and pick them for the scene at hand?
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appletree
Gorgeous. What wonderful sense of depth and distance.
Thanks!
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fishbulb
Very nice! What's your take on using Portra 400 vs. Astia? Did you carry around both and pick them for the scene at hand?
I had both with me, yes. I shot all 60 sheets of Astia I'd brought with me and about 100 sheets of Portra 400. I used Astia for what I'd call conventionally pretty landscapes (unless the brightness range seemed too high) and Portra for everything else. In the case of "Sankaber Sunset" I shot it on both Astia and Portra because I suspected that the sky wouldn't have much color/detail on Astia while still maintaining shadow detail, and I was right - I ended up going with the Portra version.
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EOTS
Beautiful
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Holdenrichards
Beautiful
Thanks Holden!
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RHITMrB
Awesome shots, Isaac!
Great sense of depth!
Best regards,
Martin
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Holdenrichards
Beautiful
Indeed!
Renato
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EOTS
Awesome shots, Isaac!
Great sense of depth!
Best regards,
Martin
Thanks! That means a lot coming from you.
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FK 13x18
industar 51 210mm
f: 4,5
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overdue glass plates 13x18cm
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on first cracked emulsion and my fingerprints
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Kurshpetow
Very interesting. Any idea how old the plates are?
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Ernemann Globus with Koilos shuter
Goerz Berlin Doppel Anastigmat 180 mm
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overdue technikal film "Tasma" 13x18cm
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Randy Moe
Very interesting. Any idea how old the plates are?
Use up to 1977
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Kurshpetow
Are they plastic plates? Is that "foto plastinki" a cognate for plastic? My Russian is rusty...
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StoneNYC
Are they plastic plates? Is that "foto plastinki" a cognate for plastic? My Russian is rusty...
Plastinki is something flat. Vinil plastinki, or buble gum plastinki.
My photo plastinki is glass=)
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Kurshpetow
OH!!! Like in Germany they call it Planfilm so basically "flat" film.
Cool! "Класно!"
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StoneNYC
OH!!! Like in Germany they call it Planfilm so basically "flat" film.
Cool! "Класно!"
my English is weak, about the German, I generally keep quiet
Thank you Спасибо=)
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Kurshpetow
my English is weak, about the German, I generally keep quiet
Thank you Спасибо=)
Пожалуйста!
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Stone, in russian "Foto plastinki" mean glass plates.
By the way do you speak russian.
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R.K
Stone, in russian "Foto plastinki" mean glass plates.
By the way do you speak russian.
Я говорю по-русски, но плохо
I took a 3 month class at a local college and speak more Russian from those 3 months than the 4 years of Spanish I took, something about Russian is just easier for me. I think it's the Cyrillic, I'm a visual leaner and it's just easier to memorize in a new language with unique characters than try to re-organize "english" letters to Spanish words.
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Lachlan 717
You lean visually?
Yes some people are auditory learners, some visual, some need physical action/experiential memory.
Everyone can learn all ways, but most people lean heavily in on particular way, so for example I REALLY struggle with auditory learning, so if I go to a lecture, unless there is also a visual presentation on a chalkboard/whiteboard/projection with information, I won't absorb much of the lecture.
This is why in school they have you listen, write down the info, then re-read it, and speak it out loud, to cover all the bases of different types of learning so that overall you have a good chance at remembering the information.
Some people are the extreme like "photographic memory" where some people literally can remember everything they have ever seen, including visualizing a single page in a book they read 10 years ago and being able to recite the whole page and tell you the page number etc, probably the date they read it, and other details, but those are extreme cases.
So I'm a visual learner, I memorize by seeing, I'm not able to photograph the memory per-say but much more prone to learning by seeing.
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Very nice. We can talk sometimes. Russian is my native. I was born there.
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StoneNYC
Yes some people are auditory learners, some visual, some need physical action/experiential memory.
Everyone can learn all ways, but most people lean heavily in on particular way, so for example I REALLY struggle with auditory learning, so if I go to a lecture, unless there is also a visual presentation on a chalkboard/whiteboard/projection with information, I won't absorb much of the lecture.
This is why in school they have you listen, write down the info, then re-read it, and speak it out loud, to cover all the bases of different types of learning so that overall you have a good chance at remembering the information.
Some people are the extreme like "photographic memory" where some people literally can remember everything they have ever seen, including visualizing a single page in a book they read 10 years ago and being able to recite the whole page and tell you the page number etc, probably the date they read it, and other details, but those are extreme cases.
So I'm a visual learner, I memorize by seeing, I'm not able to photograph the memory per-say but much more prone to learning by seeing.
Lean is different to learn.
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Too bright light and no clouds to be an interesting picture. I was merely testing Fomapan 200 @ 125. Souped in Rodinal 1+50, 9 min. I am quite happy with the results.
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8690/...3f0de6a7_b.jpg
MPP Micro Technical VI, Symmar 150 f5.6 @f22
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StoneNYC
Yes some people are auditory learners, some visual, some need physical action/experiential memory.
Everyone can learn all ways, but most people lean heavily in on particular way, so for example I REALLY struggle with auditory learning, so if I go to a lecture, unless there is also a visual presentation on a chalkboard/whiteboard/projection with information, I won't absorb much of the lecture.
This is why in school they have you listen, write down the info, then re-read it, and speak it out loud, to cover all the bases of different types of learning so that overall you have a good chance at remembering the information.
Some people are the extreme like "photographic memory" where some people literally can remember everything they have ever seen, including visualizing a single page in a book they read 10 years ago and being able to recite the whole page and tell you the page number etc, probably the date they read it, and other details, but those are extreme cases.
So I'm a visual learner, I memorize by seeing, I'm not able to photograph the memory per-say but much more prone to learning by seeing.
There is no research supporting the claim that instruction is more effective when it matches a person's "learning style." For those who are interested in how we DO learn best, I'd suggest the books "Make It Stick" and "How We Learn."
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Bill_1856
I fail to see any difference between landscapes taken with Large Format equipment, and anything else. It's just a lot more work with the camera, and somewhat less in the darkroom.
?:confused:
I guess if you choose not to use any adjustments.
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AnteroP
I am inclined to agree but if you crop to just below the trees I really like the subtle lines that lead tot he hill.
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AnteroP
I am inclined to agree but if you crop to just below the trees I really like the subtle lines that lead tot he hill.
I agree with this. IMHO, the image would be much stronger (cleaner/simpler) as a panorama with the foreground cropped away. The foreground only distracts from the otherwise very beautiful composition.
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h2oman
There is no research supporting the claim that instruction is more effective when it matches a person's "learning style." For those who are interested in how we DO learn best, I'd suggest the books "Make It Stick" and "How We Learn."
Where did you get the information in your statement?
My information comes from multiple conversations with those who have doctorates and masters degrees (as recent as one year ago, so not old information) in the fields of education and behavioral therapy. Unless I grossly misunderstood the multiple conversations I've had about learning, there's in fact lots of research supporting the claim that instruction is more effective when it matches a person's learning style.
I guess we will have to agree to disagree.
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As much as I hate to admit it, I believe Stone is right. Human beings, for the most part, learn visually. I know I do. And we learn far better with multiple sensory input... visual + auditory + tactile (hands-on)... even olfactory and taste sometimes.
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Old-N-Feeble
Human beings, for the most part, learn visually.
No, there are a variety of learning styles, everyone is a little different.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learning_styles
This is a common topic in education courses (one of my undergraduate degrees is in education). The Wikipedia mentions the hypothesis is "contested" but I think the main issue is non of us are wholly one type or another.
Personally I discovered ages ago I am a kinesthetic learner. Getting my hands dirty and working through problems works well for me. Hence why the technical parts of photography, music, and other things have come naturally to me.
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Old-N-Feeble
I agree with this. IMHO, the image would be much stronger (cleaner/simpler) as a panorama with the foreground cropped away. The foreground only distracts from the otherwise very beautiful composition.
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Thank you! I made a recomposition according to your advise :)
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Antero... I think that's a wonderful image. I like it very much. Have you considered a little feathered burning of the foreground and sky? Not too much... just enough to darken the top and bottom a little bit. This will help anchor the edges and gently draw the eye to the center.
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AnteroP
Too bright light and no clouds to be an interesting picture. I was merely testing Fomapan 200 @ 125. Souped in Rodinal 1+50, 9 min. I am quite happy with the results.
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8690/...3f0de6a7_b.jpg
MPP Micro Technical VI, Symmar 150 f5.6 @f22
I like this shot with the foreground included, to each their own I suppose :)
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Old-N-Feeble
I agree with this. IMHO, the image would be much stronger (cleaner/simpler) as a panorama with the foreground cropped away. The foreground only distracts from the otherwise very beautiful composition.
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Sorry, I was not clear. I was wanting to crop from the top down to get rid of the trees.
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April fields. At the horizon you will see the ski jumping hill of Lahti :) (twelve miles from the camera)
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7706/...eb15e705_o.jpg
Symmar 150mm, Fomapan 200, Xtol 1+1
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Let me make it clear - I'm not saying that presenting things in different ways has no value, or that people don't have preferred modes of receiving information, but according to many there is not sufficient evidence to indicate that understanding is greater when presentation is matched with the preferred mode.
Here's a starting point:
http://www.aft.org/ae/summer2005/willingham
Others echo what he says, but I'm open to reading any studies suggesting otherwise! :)
Corran,
I would suggest that your need to get your hands dirty simply suggests that the things you are learning involve getting your hands dirty - the referenced article alludes to matching the learning approach with the content.
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Not to veer too far off-topic but what I mean is after I do something with my hands once I know and understand it, such as writing out a math problem and going through the steps to solve it, while just listening to a lecture or seeing it done on a whiteboard doesn't do anything for me. Another example was a tough class with a lot of reading. I read while walking a 1/2 mile to the class and for some reason retained more than I have ever done in a heavy reading class, which I was never good at. Anecdotal I know, but there it is.
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Yes, a person must actively engage in learning for it to be effective!
Again, for those of you that have any interest at all, the two books I referenced initially are both enjoyable and informative. (And both are based on research.)
OK, I'll let it go now. :D
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I hope no one minds. I find educational theory quite interesting. When I got into the classroom with little snot-nosed punks, I found it less so (no offence to those with children...).
I enjoy teaching in a collegiate setting much more.
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h2oman
Let me make it clear - I'm not saying that presenting things in different ways has no value, or that people don't have preferred modes of receiving information, but according to many there is not sufficient evidence to indicate that understanding is greater when presentation is matched with the preferred mode.
Here's a starting point:
http://www.aft.org/ae/summer2005/willingham
Others echo what he says, but I'm open to reading any studies suggesting otherwise! :)
Corran,
I would suggest that your need to get your hands dirty simply suggests that the things you are learning involve getting your hands dirty - the referenced article alludes to matching the learning approach with the content.
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Corran
Not to veer too far off-topic but what I mean is after I do something with my hands once I know and understand it, such as writing out a math problem and going through the steps to solve it, while just listening to a lecture or seeing it done on a whiteboard doesn't do anything for me. Another example was a tough class with a lot of reading. I read while walking a 1/2 mile to the class and for some reason retained more than I have ever done in a heavy reading class, which I was never good at. Anecdotal I know, but there it is.
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h2oman
Yes, a person must actively engage in learning for it to be effective!
Again, for those of you that have any interest at all, the two books I referenced initially are both enjoyable and informative. (And both are based on research.)
OK, I'll let it go now. :D
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Corran
I hope no one minds. I find educational theory quite interesting. When I got into the classroom with little snot-nosed punks, I found it less so (no offence to those with children...).
I enjoy teaching in a collegiate setting much more.
Wrong thread???
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Old-N-Feeble
Wrong thread???
Ha ha ha
Naw, its just a derailment started by Stone's learning Russian comment, resulting in a twenty comment pileup on the internet superhighway!
Off topic comments in the right thread tend to keep me paying attention, No one knows if I'm learning anything, or how.
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Cool your jets OnF, it's not that big a deal.
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Corran
Cool your jets OnF, it's not that big a deal.
Oh, I wasn't complaining. I'm just too weak-minded to understand the joke.:)
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Don't forget this one:
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Old-N-Feeble
As much as I hate to admit it, I believe Stone is right. Human beings, for the most part, learn visually. I know I do. And we learn far better with multiple sensory input... visual + auditory + tactile (hands-on)... even olfactory and taste sometimes.
:)
And did you read the article?
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h2oman
Don't forget this one:
:)
And did you read the article?
I can't remember.:p
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Things are getting diluted by talk. More shooting/printing/scanning!
I made this photo last month on ektascan b/ra and shared it. https://www.flickr.com/photos/13759696@N02/17009513055/
Getting around to making contact sheets to file with the negatives last night. I was real pleased with the contact print for this, so I made a couple solarized variations, this being my favorite. I put the overhead light on for about 2s while it was about 1/3 developed in the dektol. 8x10 seagull rc vc paper.
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8802/...164abe54_c.jpg
img948 by philbrookjason, on Flickr
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I find educational theory very interesting. I....must....refrain...(I'll back away from the computer now...)
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[IMG]https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7678/...0a88deb7_c.jpgdune mono web by gtar1958, on Flickr[/IMG]Chamonix 5x8 cut down to 8x4 vertical , .Cheers Gary
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Gary Tarbert
Intense!