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D-23 is bascally D-76 without Hydroquinone: it has only Metol as the developing agent.
It is a bit less active as a result, and (according to Anchell and Troop) is less prone to "runaway" high values.
Like D-76, it doesn't give the finest grain or highest acutance, doesn't give the best film speed, doesn't have exceptional shelf-life and doesn't mask grain, tan or stain.
To me the core value proposition of D-23 is simplicity: only 2 ingredients. It can be mixed fresh and tossed.
You might find this article helpful: D-23 Developer
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Also it was good enough for some very famous photographs and is not prone to development problems and scratches in a tray, which is the main reason I am using it more.
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Thanks for the info on D-23. I like run-away highlights, so I will avoid it for most of my negs!
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Vaughn I made some negatives a while ago with full strength D23 and Delta 100 that I could not print as salt prints, way too dense in the highlights, but 1:1 or used somewhat depleted its different. I am using it because its easy to develop sheets in a tray without making a balls up. Conventional developers are hard to come by down here at the end of the world.
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I am using Dektol, straight or 1:1, for sheet film to be used for carbon prints. I was recently told that Kodak called Dektol "Versadol" or something like that back when it was used for both film and paper. I have not been able to confirm this yet.
I am using Dektol because I have run out of Ilford PQ Universal developer -- which I use at the paper dilution (1:9) instead of the film dilution (1:19).
Negatives for salt prints are wimpy compared to my negatives for carbon printing!
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You must be printing with high % dichromate then. My better prints from digital negatives were mostly with 5% ammonium dichromate and a very long exposure, but I have never printed a camera negative that stout. I will have to try it.
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I standardized on 8% and a bare minimum of pigment. About 60 minutes to 90 minutes under a 750W Merc Vapor lamp (about a third of a meter above the printing frame). For workshops, I use 4% -- and 25% to 50% more pigment.
If I ever stop printing, I'll tape all my negs to the walls and ceilings so I'll won't have to wear my tinfoil hat!
Vaughn
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I'm jealous Jim. I really wanted to go back to Cades Cove this year but couldn't take off work. Next year maybe...
Nice images, lovely colors.
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Thank, Chassis and Corran.
Corran, maybe next year will be a better year for colors. The Cove was a complete zoo, anyway.
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David, I like it very much!
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Going through old negatives to test my new darkroom set up. Here one of Arches NP taken a few years back. 5 x 7 negative.
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In the Corn, Sauvie Island + Scarecrow, Sauvie Island.
Austin, some will think your shots are corny, but I think they’re a-maize-ing. ;^)
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Here’s one of Arches NP taken a few years back. 5 x 7 negative.
Another fun shot! The balanced rock is having a serious talk w/ the circling clouds.
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Sigh....... ;)
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Wish I could be there again...!
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What have I done to deserve this? Did take my Zone VI out for a spin. When I got to the location and jumped out of the truck I heard that sound, pssss. Flat tyre, great start. I put that to the future and went down the creek with my camera. Folded her up, composed and start measuring and the hole sky came down on me. No shoot so I went back to the truck and pulled out a spare tyre, could as well do that while it rain. Spare tyre on and the sun started charming me. Took my gear and went down and as the last time when every thing was set up the rain started again. Damned, well I got to have at least one frame with me home and while shielding the camera from rain with one hand, trigger the shutter on B with the other and counting to 15 I got this not so good but my first LF landscape. Wet and curious of the result. Well thats a story from reality in a rainy part of Sweden:)
/c
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Despite the tire and the rain, an excellent start!
I once came out of the woods to discover a bear had bitten my tire and put a hole in the sidewall. I was not please. I guess neither was he -- I had paw pints on my windows, but he could not see anything to eat.
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[QUOTE=EOTS;949835]Neist Point Lighthouse, Isle of Skye, Scotland]
Stunning photograph, Martin!
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[QUOTE=cpercy;950073]An early image from the martian landing.]
Neat image, Clay.
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Sigh....... ;)
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Wish I could be there again...!
Yeah, it's incredible there!
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Neist Point Lighthouse, Isle of Skye, Scotland]
Stunning photograph, Martin!
Thanks Bryan!
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An early image from the martian landing.
Nice, Clay! Alien mushrooms ;-)
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What have I done to deserve this? Did take my Zone VI out for a spin. When I got to the location and jumped out of the truck I heard that sound, pssss. Flat tyre, great start. I put that to the future and went down the creek with my camera. Folded her up, composed and start measuring and the hole sky came down on me. No shoot so I went back to the truck and pulled out a spare tyre, could as well do that while it rain. Spare tyre on and the sun started charming me. Took my gear and went down and as the last time when every thing was set up the rain started again. Damned, well I got to have at least one frame with me home and while shielding the camera from rain with one hand, trigger the shutter on B with the other and counting to 15 I got this not so good but my first LF landscape. Wet and curious of the result. Well thats a story from reality in a rainy part of Sweden:)
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WELL worth the effort!
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Great image papac.
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[QUOTE=Bryan Lemasters;950201]
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An early image from the martian landing.]
Neat image, Clay.
Thanks Bryan, and yes as you deduced it is Ah-Shi-Sle-Pah outside Chaco Canyon in New Mexico.
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Nice, Clay! Alien mushrooms ;-)
Thanks Martin.
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An early image from the martian landing.
Did anybody else read some of these when you were small?
http://peyre.x10.mx/OldGoodStuff/mushroom.htm
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Wonderful!
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Martin, this is gorgeous. Did you use some graduated ND filter(presumably hard) to darken the sky or did you do this in postprocessing?
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Thank you przemur!
Yes, I used a Lee Hard Grad ND Filter, I think either 0.6 or 0.9 strength ...
With slide film you can't do very much postprocessing in post ... I'm working with Velvia 50 for all the landscapes (sometimes Provia)
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A great thing about Yosemite is that you can just point your camera ANYWHERE, heck, even with the lenscap on and pointing it backward, and press the shutter and you will get images like this:
http://richardmanphoto.com/PICS/2012...ed-34-Edit.jpg
True story: on my way home, I dropped by Yosemite (and any time you can say, "I dropped by Yosemite on my way home," it has to be a great day) and heading toward the Village, I passed this rock. I tuned around and found a spot to park. While I was setting up my tripod, a car pulled over on the other side, and a guy came out with his tripod.
He then literally plopped his tripod 3 feet next to mine.
While thinking "You gotta kiddin' me," but being a friendly Californian, I said, "Hi!"
He probably didn't hear me, as he was looking at the scene, and he picked up his tripod, and walked some distance down...
What a critic. Didn't like my spot, I guess.
My theory is that my spot is perfect for a panoramic shot, but not so much for a 35mm image. That's my story, to preserve my ego, and I am sticking with it.
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That works! Good story, too.
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Hey, tripod-to-tripod is the norm in Yosemite, especially at the popular locations. I always get a chuckle out of the row of photographers at Tunnel View, regardless of the quality of light.
Workshops are especially bad for this, but I remember one in particular where a workshop participant (I hesitate to call him a photographer) would look at what you were shooting, and would nest his tripod inside the legs of your tripod so he could get the same shot. We ended up just setting up on garbage when he was around - it worked, he did the same and made the 'same' images that we never took lol.
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One more. This is actually THE view that stopped my car:
http://richardmanphoto.com/PICS/2012...ed-44-Edit.jpg
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One more. This is actually THE view that stopped my car:
Even better!
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Even better!
Agree!!!
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One more. This is actually THE view that stopped my car:
Great job! What I like about this that I have not seen in some of your other panoramics is solid ends that keep the eye traveling within the image and not towards one end and off the image.
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One more. This is actually THE view that stopped my car:
now this is one is a winner :)
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One more. This is actually THE view that stopped my car:
Richard, the first one works well, but this one is stunning... Good, you parked the car...
Jiri
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I always get a chuckle out of the row of photographers at Tunnel View, regardless of the quality of light.
I've been to Yosemite exactly once in my life. Now, going there is a 3000-mile drive each way. If I go there again, I'm going to photograph all the same places everyone else has photographed. My pictures may be no different than yours, or maybe they won't be anywhere near as good, but they'll be mine. One thing will be true: If I go again, I'll have two hours at, say, Glacier Point, and I'll have to make use of whatever light happens to show up. You standing there chuckling will not be an encouragement.
Quit laughing.
Rick "who has been known to derive solutions to problems already solved by other engineers, for the experience, for the joy, for the satisfaction, and for the self-sufficiency" Denney
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Rick, we need to talk about your filter use. Please, just lay back on this couch over hear and tell me about your childhood. Did your father beat you because he caught you fondling his 25A? Did you harbor hidden desires to use your mother's 80A, even though you were using B&W film?
All seriousness aside, set your camera up anywhere you dang please! And be comforted to know that the bigger your camera, the more digital cameras will flock to your spot. And be sure to tell the users of such cameras that instead of holding their camera next to the back of your camera, they'll get a better shot if they hold it right next to the lens.
Vaughn
PS...Yosemite is only a 10 hour drive away -- I have been there countless times. Yet I took this:
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Rick & Vaughn, excellent images, sirs!
The distances in the vastness of US are a nice reminder for us Europeans - when I consider that I have the Alps some 4-5 hours of driving away and still consider it too far... But I hope to get there at least once a year - but before spring comes I have to solve the problem of portability of my LF setup..
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Rick, we need to talk about your filter use. Please, just lay back on this couch over hear and tell me about your childhood. Did your father beat you because he caught you fondling his 25A? Did you harbor hidden desires to use your mother's 80A, even though you were using B&W film?
Heh. I once used a red filter to make a photo of Canyon de Chelly. I thought the red filter would open up the red rocks. But the red rocks were lit by blue sky (I was shooting into the light) and so had the opposite effect.
Most of the times these days, I just leave the damn filter in the case.
The negative of Half Dome had other issues--the lower part of it was rather severely fogged. It was unprintable back in the day, but with Photoshop I was able to bring it back. The result is that those pines are a bit...dark. (Dark hides a multitude of sins.) But I sure do like the texture on Half Dome, even if it's been photographed there 74.6 million times. I spent two hours on it in Photoshop--figuring that was my photo of Half Dome and I would just damn well have to make it work.
Here's another one from the same trip that sure would have benefitted form more dramatic light:
(No filter.)
I sure hope that really is Bridal Veil Falls. I really have no idea for sure!
I grew up in Houston. I'm a sucker for cliffs, mountains, and waterfalls.
Rick "who has decided that his artist's statement could be 'I like photographs that make me want to go there.'" Denney
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Not exactly -- it is "Bridalveil Fall" (one word, and only one fall). Looks to be taken taken from the viewpoint on the road heading out of the Valley (along the Merced River). Actually a little before the turn out they now have there...I think the viewpoint was not yet established in 1992.
Vaughn "yes, I got a relatively recent one from about that spot, too!" Hutchins