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Ilford4ever
6-Aug-2012, 21:52
I am about to start in 4x5 for the first time (planning to print from the negatives in the darkroom). Is it possible to produce decent quality large prints by printing from negatives on x-ray film (enlarging)? Will appreciate tips or shared experiences and images. Thank you!

Lachlan 717
6-Aug-2012, 23:20
Does X-Ray film come in 4x5"?

Ilford4ever
7-Aug-2012, 00:02
Not that i know of, but 8x10 cut in four makes 4x5 exposure at $0.07.. So it is like 10 times cheaper then cheapest 4x5 photographic film on the market.. Or 4x5 for a price of one frame on 35mm film.. Now, can you successfully print from it, that is the question...

Lachlan 717
7-Aug-2012, 00:28
At $8+ per sheet for ULF (regular) film, I can definitely see the attraction of X-Ray film.

However, using your figure of 10x the price for 4x5, I really couldn't be bothered with saving 63 cents per shot. I just don't use that many sheets in one go. Of course, you might be the polar opposite!

As for printing, you'll need to consider the near-Ortho properties of X-Ray film. Lack of blue sky/cloud definition would put me off it for open landscape work. It seems good enough for bush/forest scenes and for portraits. Just be sure that you're familiar with what the film can (and, equally importantly, can't) do.

So, perhaps you need to specify what you'll be shooting in order to get some good feedback?

Ilford4ever
7-Aug-2012, 04:01
I shoot portraiture more than anything...but won't miss any pleasing composition in the view finder, be that a pretty flower, street scene or an architectural element.. I just want to be able to use the film constantly, without thinking of the price of it..ideally i want to use it all the time, instead of my 35mm or 120mm cameras that i constantly carry with me..

Mark Woods
7-Aug-2012, 07:08
X-ray film works great. You just need to work out the development.

Jody_S
7-Aug-2012, 07:22
It's a great way to learn technique without being put off by the cost. X-ray film is actually a lot harder to use than traditional B&W, so if you master X-ray and get good images without screwing up any part, from exposure to developing, and don't scratch the hell out of it, you will find it's a breeze to go back to normal film afterwards.

Exposure has to be perfect, it's very unforgiving.

Ilford4ever
14-Aug-2012, 11:15
Thank you very much for your response! I guess there is only one sure way to find out.. Is to start shooting!

vinny
14-Aug-2012, 11:23
Ilford for ever? They make xray film?
I wasn't aware. Have you ever cut film down to 4x5? Try cutting down an 8x10 sheet of paper in the dark a d see what you end up with. I'm absolutely terrible at it and have no idea how I'd do it w/o adding dust to the equation. I have enough dust issues with loading holders as it is. Nothing worse than havingto enlarge a neg only to find that it's unusable do to dust, scratches, etc.

rwhb1
18-Aug-2012, 12:31
This has kindled a memory. My Grandfather Harry Ellingworth had a photograph studio called Montagu Studios (for an image see here of the street http://www.francisfrith.com/kettering/photos/montagu-street-c1950_K13021/) in Montagu Street, Kettering, Northamptonshire UK from about 1930 through to his death in the 1960's. Kettering was surrounded by American airbases during WW2, but of course film was rationed - how do you carry on with your business? The tale is that he was great friends with the X-Ray guy at the hospital who used to supply film. I always thought this was a crazy tale until reading this thread.

So what was the war time business? Taking portraits of US Airmen to send home to their loved ones. He also specialised in doing panoramic group photos and I am told he can be seen at both left and right hand sides of large groups!

I am proud to be a fourth generation (not professional) photographer, as Harry's father Henry was also a photographer.

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Russ

cpjfox
20-Oct-2012, 22:47
So far I've been having a blast with xray film.

I will be setting me LF Enlarger up next week to try doing some 8x10s from 4x5's.

So far I have been inspecting the quality of the negatives by using my iPad as a light box, then taking a digital still and inverting in Light Room.

The film is incredibly unforgiving if you fry the exposure and the development due to, by my assessment, the thinness of the emulsion layer(s).

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Fuji RX-U
Shot as 50ISO, 5s f/8.0
Dev in LC29 @ 1:29 20degC for 4mins


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Fuji RX-U
Shot as 400ISO, 1/30s f/16
Dev in LC29 @ 1:29 20degC for 4mins