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absolom
5-May-2012, 07:20
optically, what distinguishes a macro lens from a normal lens in large format?

E. von Hoegh
5-May-2012, 07:30
http://www.largeformatphotography.info/

darr
5-May-2012, 07:45
A floating element may be included in the lens design so it can focus closer than normal lenses.

:) :) :)
I am sure one of our lens gurus here on the board can add more. I am a macro shooter and know there is a difference in the lens design (thus better results) when you use a macro-specific over a non-macro specific.

Old-N-Feeble
5-May-2012, 07:46
A floating element... on LF lenses?? :)

darr
5-May-2012, 07:49
A floating element... on LF lenses?? :)
My bad. I know the design is different. I guess floating elements are on other type lenses.

See this thread, it explains how the macro lenses are constructed and "No floating elements" ;)

http://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/showthread.php?76621-Any-large-format-lenses-with-floating-elements&p=732652&viewfull=1#post732652

E. von Hoegh
5-May-2012, 07:49
It's on the homepage. Amazing, how few look there.

The main difference is the macro is optimised for close ratios, and sometimes flat field.

Get a G-Claron and don't worry.

absolom
5-May-2012, 08:53
E. Von

you're right about the info being on the website, don't know how I missed that, very informative. Could you explain your g-claron recommendation though?

E. von Hoegh
5-May-2012, 09:44
E. Von

you're right about the info being on the website, don't know how I missed that, very informative. Could you explain your g-claron recommendation though?

It's a superb, inexpensive, available lens designed for close ratio reproduction, but very good for landscapes and so on. Depending on the working distance you need, there may be more suitable lenses.

E. von Hoegh
5-May-2012, 09:45
A floating element... on LF lenses?? :)

Graf Variable.

Old-N-Feeble
5-May-2012, 10:45
E. von... That's for variable spherical aberration, not variable macro magnification. :)

Bob Salomon
5-May-2012, 11:13
E. von... That's for variable spherical aberration, not variable macro magnification. :)

Then try the 210 and 300mm Makro Sironar lenses. With the front and rear in their normal positions the lenses were optimized for 1:3 to 1:1. Manually unscrew and switch their positions in the shutter and they were corrected for 1:1 to 3:1. A pictograph on the front and rear cell rims showed which went where for the different ranges.

Not a floating element by most people's definition but performed the same task.

At infinity both were mediocre, but from 1:3 to 3:1 with 3 dimensional subjects they were superior optics!

The 120 and 180mm Apo Macro Sironar lenses and the 120mm Apo Macro Sironar Digital lenses are corrected for 1:5 to 2:1 without having to swap the cells around. These lenses replaced the earlier Makro Sironar lenses.

Old-N-Feeble
5-May-2012, 11:19
Bob... That's neat but it's more akin to "reversing" the lens than it having a floating element.