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GabrielSeri
21-Apr-2012, 17:23
Hi

I worked on a portfolio ebook which I would like to print it one day and also show galleries when it is completed. It is a work in progress. Let me know what you think.

http://issuu.com/gabrielseri/docs/shadesofsilver3

lbenac
21-Apr-2012, 17:32
Just a quick look and I have the following remarks in good faifth.
1) A few of the first images are showing what could be uneven development.
2) A couple of the pages are showing images that are very similar i.e. moved a little bit away for a similar composition
3) A few of the face to face pages have images of very different tonality which I IMHO find distracting. I guess that it is easier if there is only one image as opposed to two images face to face

Love the many of the images of the dunes...:-)

Cheers,

Luc

GabrielSeri
21-Apr-2012, 17:39
Hi Luc and thank you for responding. The uneven development look on the pages is actually part of the issuu software to make it appear like a book. I definitely took note of the similar pages and I agree. I will make those changes and make sure the tonality are all the same in the next version I do this weekend.

alexn
21-Apr-2012, 19:24
Really nice.. Well done.

A fantastic collection of images.

I noticed the appearance of uneven development and by about pg10 I realized that it was the software adding gloss to the arched pages of the book.. Very clever.

Great work and good luck with showing it to galleries.

lbenac
21-Apr-2012, 19:44
I did not :o :o :o
Probably because after doing stand development and trying out various developper I am tune-up on NOT getting uneven development on my negs.
Beside it is Saturday so I am allowed not to think!

Cheers,

Luc



Really nice.. Well done.

A fantastic collection of images.

I noticed the appearance of uneven development and by about pg10 I realized that it was the software adding gloss to the arched pages of the book.. Very clever.

Great work and good luck with showing it to galleries.

GabrielSeri
21-Apr-2012, 20:03
Thanks Alex I appreciate it.

I like the glossy page look the software does. I use it a lot at my work to do online brochures and catalogs. By the way the software and website is free. www.issuu.com

I work at Bergamot Station in Santa Monica and hoping to get my work at one of the photography galleries there.

GabrielSeri
21-Apr-2012, 20:05
Thanks Alex I appreciate it.

I like the glossy page look the software does. I use it a lot at my work to do online brochures and catalogs. By the way the software and website is free. www.issuu.com

I work at Bergamot Station in Santa Monica and hoping to get my work at one of the photography galleries there.

GabrielSeri
21-Apr-2012, 20:10
It's understandable Luc.. it's Saturday night! Have a Molson Canadian for me. Cheers!

Merg Ross
21-Apr-2012, 21:34
Gabriel, you have some very fine images. As a suggestion, I would eliminate those that are weak, and only show your best work. You have a good eye, and most likely understand what I am saying. Also, and I realize that this is in the preliminary stage, pay particular attention to the sequencing. You are off to a good start, congratulations!

I note that you work at Bergamont Station; if you ever see my old friend Peter Fetterman, please give him my regards.

Best,
Merg

Gary Sommer
21-Apr-2012, 22:25
The transition from the dark cover to the bright, hurt your eyes, page 2-3 bothered me. I didn't notice the title at first and thought something was wrong with the link. Other than that it was a very nice book. Your images are very nice indeed.

Gary

Ken Lee
22-Apr-2012, 04:33
http://www.kenleegallery.com/images/forum/booklayout2.png


There's a difference between a portfolio and a catalog. You may be trying to show as many photos as possible - as large as possible - to the detriment of each photo. That's more like a catalog than a portfolio.

Perhaps you could consider giving a more flattering border around each image: via either a larger book, or smaller images.

The two-up approach looks rather cluttered: similar photos compete, and dissimilar images interfere with one another.

Each photo deserves to be shown as a work in itself. Leave the left page blank: that's a suggestion anyhow :cool: Better to show a few images with dignity and elegance, than many photos crowded together.


http://www.kenleegallery.com/images/forum/booklayout.png

Frank Petronio
22-Apr-2012, 04:52
I don't really see a show or sales potential here. They're fine photos, the sand dunes are salable as decor, but you have a lot more photography to do before you'll be doing what you say you intend. Good luck, keep pushing.

GabrielSeri
22-Apr-2012, 18:38
Wow thank you Merg, coming from you that is a great honor. I think you are right I need to eliminate the weaker ones and only show the very best and no fillers.

I work right across from the Peter Fetterman gallery. I haven't really spoken to him yet but that is the gallery I would love to get into. All the masters show there. My boss knows him but when I see him I will mention that you said hi. :)


Gabriel, you have some very fine images. As a suggestion, I would eliminate those that are weak, and only show your best work. You have a good eye, and most likely understand what I am saying. Also, and I realize that this is in the preliminary stage, pay particular attention to the sequencing. You are off to a good start, congratulations!

I note that you work at Bergamont Station; if you ever see my old friend Peter Fetterman, please give him my regards.

Best,
Merg

GabrielSeri
22-Apr-2012, 18:44
http://www.kenleegallery.com/images/forum/booklayout2.png


There's a difference between a portfolio and a catalog. You may be trying to show as many photos as possible - as large as possible - to the detriment of each photo. That's more like a catalog than a portfolio.

Perhaps you could consider giving a more flattering border around each image: via either a larger book, or smaller images.

The two-up approach looks rather cluttered: similar photos compete, and dissimilar images interfere with one another.

Each photo deserves to be shown as a work in itself. Leave the left page blank: that's a suggestion anyhow :cool: Better to show a few images with dignity and elegance, than many photos crowded together.


http://www.kenleegallery.com/images/forum/booklayout.png


Ken as usual you have great advice! I never realized it but you are right the way I did it was too catalog, which makes sense since that is what I do at work. With proper spacing you respect the image more and the 2 don't fight for attention. Very clever thank you.

GabrielSeri
22-Apr-2012, 19:44
I don't really see a show or sales potential here. They're fine photos, the sand dunes are salable as decor, but you have a lot more photography to do before you'll be doing what you say you intend. Good luck, keep pushing.


Thank you for the honest advice Frank. I am still working on this so I do have a while to go. I think I need some kind of concept that unites the images. That's what I notice at some galleries.

Ken Lee
23-Apr-2012, 04:58
Another consequence of having larger photos, 2-up or more, is that the eye is drawn into the center of each photo - only the center - to avoid distraction from other images.

As a result, each photo is reduced to a picture of something. The subject of the photograph takes prime importance, rather than the photograph itself. That's OK for documentary photography, or even product and fashion photography, where the photograph is supposed to be a transparent glass through which we look at something far more important - but not for fine art photographs.

In Fine Art photography, the photograph itself is the subject, and the book should be the transparent glass through which we gaze, not at the subjects, but at the photographs.

srbphoto
26-Apr-2012, 07:19
I would change the cover photo. Go with something really, really bold. One of the dunes or the picture of the rock formation (Jtree or Alabama Hills?) with the moon in it. Take a bunch of photos out and line them up. One or two will keep jumping out and fighting for your attention. That should be your cover.

ROL
26-Apr-2012, 09:44
Hi

I worked on a portfolio ebook which I would like to print it one day and also show galleries when it is completed. It is a work in progress. Let me know what you think.

http://issuu.com/gabrielseri/docs/shadesofsilver3

I think there are already a lot of good criticisms, if brief. I think it would be helpful for you to digest and process the information into at least 3 broad categories, each needing attention:

1) Technical (i.e., horizon line leveling, shadow detail, etc.)
2) Artistic (i.e., composition, tonal values, etc.)
3) Presentation (i.e., studies, through–lines, etc.)

Lastly, and I guess this is presentation, I don't understand the e-book paradigm as a method to show your work to galleries, as you say. Is that how "artists" show their work these days?. Do galleries show digital electronic work now instead of physical prints? While I realize the necessity of, and endorse compelling presentations on the web, primarily as a necessary business adjunct, I believe most brick and mortar galleries still show actual prints, however they're made. Unless your intent is to only "make" electronic digital images for "display", even as part of a hard copy book, I as a gallery owner (yes, I have been one, Photo Biz (http://www.rangeoflightphotography.com/pages/photo-business)), would want to see examples (actual finished (http://www.rangeoflightphotography.com/pages/Fine%20Art%20Print%20Presentation) work) for display. That could come about in several ways. First, a coherent (see #3) physical portfolio of ready to frame images, probably no larger than 11"X14". Then, perhaps a few larger professionally framed, ready to hang pieces of your very best work, encompassing all of the above 3 points.

I guess what I'm really trying to say is that self publishing a book of images off the net wouldn't show me much commitment to your "art", unless it were a true fine art book and you were already known.

GabrielSeri
26-Apr-2012, 14:08
Hi ROL,

The e-book is for email purposes, I am not trying to sell the images digitally or off the internet. I wanted to use the e-book as a tool, because there is nothing worse than an artist coming to the gallery with their portfolio without an appointment. I feel that with a proper introduction on an email with the images or if I send a cd with images I can get exposure and then come in with the real silver prints.

The self publishing of a book of images would be possible at a show. I have to a few shows here at Bergamot Station and bought 2 books so far from photographers I never heard of before the show and 1 from Jerry Uelsmann.

That you for the critique and I realize that I need to rethink the images and refine the selection. I got many great ideas so far and I am appreciative.

GabrielSeri
26-Apr-2012, 14:09
I would change the cover photo. Go with something really, really bold. One of the dunes or the picture of the rock formation (Jtree or Alabama Hills?) with the moon in it. Take a bunch of photos out and line them up. One or two will keep jumping out and fighting for your attention. That should be your cover.

Absolutely I will do this! Thank you.