new schneider 90mm 6.8 - any users?

[paul owen]

Just wondering if anyone has any reports, good or bad on the latest 90mm 6.8 Super Angulon from Schneider? Thanks!

[Dan Fromm]

You might want to take a look at http://www.schneideroptics.com/photography/large_format_lenses/super-angulon/pdf/super-angulon_80_90.pdf

If I haven't misread the spec sheet, it seems to be a lens for 2.25 x 3.25 and smaller.

Cheers,

Dan

[tim atherton]

that's the page for the f8? The 6.8 (and the f8) are supposed to cover 4x5 (216mm) and the 5.6 covers 5x7 (259mm). That's plenty of coverage on all three - not that I've tried them out....

[Ted Harris]

The US website doesn't even list the 6.8 yet. I went to the German website and couldn't get the details to work ::::::sigh:::::::but here they are from Badger's website:





"The Super-Angulon 6.8/90 Classic is the first model of the new Classic Line: lenses that set themselves apart from others with not only an outstanding price-performance ratio but a very elegant appearance as well. The compact design of the Super-Angulon 6.8/90 Classic guarantees ease-of-use especially with Linhof Technika circuit boards. The 216-mm image circle covering power at the smallest f-stop offers a wide range of format adjustment capabilities of up to 4x5 inches making 6x7 cm panorama format photographs absolutely possible. Equally possible are 13x18 cm format photographs without the need of excessive adjustment travel. The classic focal length of this lightweight wide angle lens weighing under 650 g makes it an ideal companion for outdoor photography. "



As a comparison I would assume the performance is very similar to Rodenstock's 6.8 and would guess that Schneider introduced these lenses to compete with the Rodenstock products. I have used the Rodenstock 90mm 6.8 for years with excellent results.

[neil poulsen]

"The 216-mm image circle covering power at the smallest f-stop . . . "

I wonder at which f-stop this covers 216mm? The old 90mm f8 covered 216mm at f22.

As another classic, I'd like to see someone develop about a 240mm double gauss like the old WF Ektars. For example, I believe that Rodenstock developed a 90mm f6.8 double-gauss. I doubt that manufacturers are paying much attention to 8x10, though.

[Tom Westbrook]

From http://www.schneiderkreuznach.com/neuheiten/an_su_68_90_e.htm:



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[tim atherton]

and

http://www.schneideroptics.com/photography/large_format_lenses/super-angulon/chart.htm

[Colin Carron]

I thought this lens looked a great idea until I checked the weight. It seems to be heavier than anything comparable.

[Arne Croell]

The 90mm Rodenstock double Gauss Neil was referring to was the Geronar WA 90mm f/8. It came out some time in the 1980's and was discontinued in the mid 1990's. It had about 170mm image circle and came in a Copal 1, but needs a size 3 lensboard hole.

Schneider made a 240mm process lens of that type, the G-Claron WA. The threads of the lens cells fit a no.3 shutter directly but the spacing is different and needs some adaptor rings.

[Bob Fowler]

"The 90mm Rodenstock double Gauss Neil was referring to was the Geronar WA 90mm f/8. It came out some time in the 1980's and was discontinued in the mid 1990's. It had about 170mm image circle and came in a Copal 1, but needs a size 3 lensboard hole."



OK, I'm confused... Why would a Copal 1 shutter need a Copal 3 lensboard hole?

[Arne Croell]

Bob,

Rodenstock modified the shutter, since the back part of the Copal 1, that has a smaller thread than the front, was probably too small for lenses in a cell to screw in. So they devised a lens cell that screws on the outside of the Copal 1 back thread and provides its own thread to mount the whole thing. For the latter they used a thread that is the same as the one used for Copal 3.

[James E Galvin]

Congo makes 90 and 120 mm double gausses. http://www.cosmonet.org/congo/index_e.html

[Kevin Sido]

So what is the thinking on the Geronar WA 90mm f8.0? Apart from its peculiar lens board is its quality any good? I have one offered to me for $225 in "9" condition. I want a small 90mm lens apart from the 90mm Super Angulon MC lens I already have. If this is not a good small 90mm what is recommended?

[Arne Croell]

Kevin, you might want to check out Kerry Thalmann's web site on the topic: http://www.thalmann.com/largeformat/wide.htm.

As for the Geronar WA, it is quite good and multicoated, its main drawback is the limited image circle (170mm). Its also a little heavier than the alternatives mentioned on Kerrys site.