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Steve Hamley
13-Dec-2011, 13:00
Folks,

In today's conversation with Jeff at Badger Graphic, he stated that an 8x10 and/or 4x5 QL Acros order might be quite doable, and might even get a discount (like the 5x7 Provia he did recently) if there's commitment for say 150-200 8x10 boxes.

So what's the interest? List what you'd like in this thread.

I'll phone Jeff a week from today after he's had a chance to speak with Fuji reps.

Cheers, Steve

Brian C. Miller
13-Dec-2011, 13:28
8x10 Acros and 4x5 Quickload Acros? Like I wouldn't be interested? :D

I'm interested, but I can't buy a load for freezer storage.

Jan Pedersen
13-Dec-2011, 13:33
I'm interested in 8x10 but need to know the price before i will commit to amount of boxes.

Bob McCarthy
13-Dec-2011, 13:51
I'm interested in 8x10 but need to know the price before i will commit to amount of boxes.


I'm interested on participating on the 8x10 order, how much is somewhat price dependent. gotta be better price than importing it from Japan.

I might have an interest in 4x5 QL, though I have plenty of Acros in the freezer.

bob

Pawlowski6132
13-Dec-2011, 14:52
What is Quickload film?

I know, I'm retarted.

cdholden
13-Dec-2011, 15:15
I would be interested in a price for 5 boxes (100 sheets). Keep in mind that any price on a box of Fuji 8x10 is for 20 sheets, not 10 or 25. If you're looking for a comparison, make sure you're using the right numbers!

ljsegil
13-Dec-2011, 15:31
Hi Steve,
If the price is reasonable I'd be good for perhaps five boxes of each size, give or take, depending on the weather and the other usual variables that can influence film acquisition and usage.
Larry

Steve Hamley
13-Dec-2011, 15:34
Post your interest and I'll keep track. With a volume discount, I'd look for it to be between Kodak's $6 per sheet and Fuji's "normal" price of $9 per sheet. So let's say $7.50 ballpark. Maybe we get lucky and get $6, but I think it's wishful thinking to expect that.

No one expects commitment without a price, but let's separate the wishful from the probable.

So as Chris notes, let's plan - until next week when I speak with Jeff again - $150.00 for a box of 20 8x10 Acros.

Cheers, Steve

SocalAstro
13-Dec-2011, 15:41
Im in for about 20-40 sheets of 8x10

Jan Pedersen
13-Dec-2011, 15:53
Good for 3 boxes minimum.

Daniel Stone
13-Dec-2011, 15:58
I'd be in for 2-3 boxes of 8x10 if its $150/box or less.

-Dan

cdholden
13-Dec-2011, 16:08
With the holidays approaching, this is a less than optimal time to be arranging a special order.
Could this have an order deadline sometime in the early spring to give people a chance to recuperate from the financial burden of feeding Aunt Edna during her December visit?

Leigh
13-Dec-2011, 16:11
I'm good for 40 sheets (maybe more) of 8x10 Acros at $7.50/sheet max (2 x 20 sheets/box).

- Leigh

Drew Wiley
13-Dec-2011, 16:22
Interested in both, but depends on the specifics.

Gary Tarbert
13-Dec-2011, 16:29
Hi , I would be good for 10 boxes minimum. Cheers Gary

John Brady
13-Dec-2011, 17:45
Yes please! Probably ten of each.

www.timeandlight.com

Pawlowski6132
13-Dec-2011, 18:21
What is Quickload film?

I know, I'm retarted.

Jan Pedersen
13-Dec-2011, 18:39
The search button is #4 from right on the menu bar!

ljsegil
13-Dec-2011, 18:40
I am probable, wishfully.
LJS

Leigh
13-Dec-2011, 19:56
What is Quickload film?
Quickload is a light-tight packaging system for single sheets of 4x5 film.

There is a heavy paper sleeve completely enclosing the film, with a little metal pressure closure at one end.

In use, a Quickload holder (looks like a Polaroid holder) goes in the back of the camera where the film holder would normally go.

To load, put the lever in the release position and insert the sleeve as far as it will go.
To expose, move the lever to the open position, then pull the sleeve out until it stops.
Take the photo, then push the sleeve back in all the way.
Then move the lever to the release position and pull the whole thing out of the holder.

Google Fuji Quickload for pix of the film and holder.

(I may have the wrong names for the lever positions. It's been many years since I used these.)

- Leigh

Sanjay Sen
14-Dec-2011, 00:00
At an estimated cost of $150.00 per 20-sheet box of 8x10 Acros, please count me in for at least two boxes.

SW Rick
14-Dec-2011, 08:09
I'd be interested in 2-5 boxes Acros 4x5 QL, dep. on cost

Nathan Potter
14-Dec-2011, 09:12
I'd take 10 boxes of Fuji QL, 4X5 Acros.

Nate Potter, Austin TX.

Pawlowski6132
14-Dec-2011, 18:57
Quickload is a light-tight packaging system for single sheets of 4x5 film.

There is a heavy paper sleeve completely enclosing the film, with a little metal pressure closure at one end.

In use, a Quickload holder (looks like a Polaroid holder) goes in the back of the camera where the film holder would normally go.

To load, put the lever in the release position and insert the sleeve as far as it will go.
To expose, move the lever to the open position, then pull the sleeve out until it stops.
Take the photo, then push the sleeve back in all the way.
Then move the lever to the release position and pull the whole thing out of the holder.

Google Fuji Quickload for pix of the film and holder.

(I may have the wrong names for the lever positions. It's been many years since I used these.)

- Leigh

Awesome. Thank you.

Steve Hamley
16-Dec-2011, 10:53
To date, looks like "commitments" or more accurately, serious interest, for 22 boxes 4x5 Acros QL and 21 boxes 8x10 Acros.

Cheers, Steve

Brad Rippe
16-Dec-2011, 11:00
Hi Steve, I'll take 5 boxes of QL Acros.
Thanks,
-Brad

Drew Wiley
16-Dec-2011, 11:07
Putting out a brief little teaser like this might be helpful, but if you want to go seriously
fishing you need a more substantial lure. Notice how Keith Canham does it - firm pricing
with deadlines for specific price categories, collection of deposits in advance, and prior
notice on the website, etc. Timing is also important. Some of us have just sunk a lot
of money into Kodak special cuts and need to catch our breath, and end-of-the-year
spending might affect others. The exchange rate is also an enormous issue. But something concrete would have to be set up in advance, then posted on several relevant forums.

ghostcount
16-Dec-2011, 12:21
I'm on the sidelines looking for me details. Though, I'd be interested in 1 box of 8x10 and 4 boxes of QL.

Larry Gebhardt
16-Dec-2011, 12:50
I am out of my QL Acros, and I would love to get some more. Depending on the price I am very interested.

DolphinDan
16-Dec-2011, 13:36
I would buy 2 boxes of 8x10 Acros.

And thanks for checking in with Jeff and getting the ball rolling.

Namaste
Daniel

Steve Hamley
16-Dec-2011, 13:44
Drew,

I'm not fishing and nothing to gain except perhaps a volume price break on my own film. And I'm not Keith Canham, but if anyone wants to send me money, that sounds good! :D

Seriously, interest was expressed so I posted to try and find if there was enough interest to give Jeff Taugner at Badger Graphic a call - and he has done special orders from Fuji before, the 5x7 Provia being an example. There was and here we are.

As far as timing goes, I'm of the opinion that if it's big film, get while the getting's good. And if this order is successful, I see no reason why there couldn't be more.

Cheers, Steve




Putting out a brief little teaser like this might be helpful, but if you want to go seriously
fishing you need a more substantial lure. Notice how Keith Canham does it - firm pricing
with deadlines for specific price categories, collection of deposits in advance, and prior
notice on the website, etc. Timing is also important. Some of us have just sunk a lot
of money into Kodak special cuts and need to catch our breath, and end-of-the-year
spending might affect others. The exchange rate is also an enormous issue. But something concrete would have to be set up in advance, then posted on several relevant forums.

Drew Wiley
16-Dec-2011, 14:52
Yes Steve, Jeff is good at this, and I just made a serious film purchase with him yesterday. And I certainly wasn't critisizing your own effort. I was just suggesting
that if this effort looks feasible, someone like him should formalize it to give it as big
a footprint as possible.

Jan Pedersen
16-Dec-2011, 15:55
I believe many of the potential buyers of the Acros in 8x10 also are interested in getting as much of the TXP320 as the budget can take, i know i am so timing for the 8x10 Acros is not the best right now.
Make a run around tax return time and i think there will be a good chance that we can meet the minimum whatever that is.

Steve Hamley
16-Dec-2011, 16:01
Jan,

Me too. But let's see how it works out and what the price is. Tax time is two weeks away depending on how you file, etc. I doubt this is going to go really fast. I would suppose, that if there is enough interest for a volume discount, Jeff will have a week or three to round up orders.

On Tuesday I should hopefully know what that discount would be and the boxes required for it, or if there would even be any discount.

So I'd expect something to "gel" around late January at the earliest.

Thanks to everyone for their interest.

Cheers, Steve

John NYC
16-Dec-2011, 16:41
Depending on price, I'd be in for 40-60 sheets (one to three boxes) of 8x10. If the price is competitive with at least Kodak's TXP nutty prices or lower, I'd do two to three boxes. If higher than that, one box. If as high as the insane Japan Exposures prices, none.

Jim Fuller
17-Dec-2011, 09:33
I'd be interested in 4 boxes of 8 x 10.

Kirk Keyes
17-Dec-2011, 16:07
I'll take 5 boxes of QL Acros.
Thanks,
Kirk

john wood
17-Dec-2011, 16:46
1 8x10
3 QL 4x5
...thanks; let's see where this goes...

nevin
17-Dec-2011, 20:24
I will take 2~4 boxes of 4x5 QL, depending on cost.

KenHipkins
18-Dec-2011, 10:44
[2] boxes of 8x10/20 sheet Acros here.
Will keep eyes on this thread/also, please advise.

Thanks,
Ken

mat4226
18-Dec-2011, 10:50
I'm up for 2-4 boxes of 8x10, final price pending. :)

Riccis
18-Dec-2011, 12:54
Depending on price, I am in for 5-10 boxes of 8x10 Acros. If this gets done, can you please email me at riccis@riccisvalladares.com with the details on how to pay? I will be traveling extensively in January and will not be able to check in the forum frequently.

Cheers!

Arne Croell
18-Dec-2011, 13:25
At least 10 boxes of QL Acros..

Bob Sawin
18-Dec-2011, 17:37
I am in for 5 boxes of Acros 4x5 QL's as long as price comes in at $9 per sheet or less.

Bob

Jan Pedersen
18-Dec-2011, 18:28
9$ per sheet for QL that is 180$ for a box of 20, a pretty hefty increase since it sold for around 65$ when Fuji USA still imported the film.
9$ per sheet is more than i would be willing to pay for 8x10

Arne Croell
18-Dec-2011, 23:52
9$ per sheet for QL that is 180$ for a box of 20, a pretty hefty increase since it sold for around 65$ when Fuji USA still imported the film.
9$ per sheet is more than i would be willing to pay for 8x10
A package of QL Acros costs about $145 right now at Japan Exposures (http://www.japanexposures.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=25&products_id=65). There is no point in doing a special deal at Badger if its more expensive than that. 8x10, however, is close to $190 per 20-sheet package (http://www.japanexposures.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=25&products_id=30)

prado333
19-Dec-2011, 09:38
i would like two boxes of 20 sheets of 8x10 film

Pete Roody
19-Dec-2011, 09:41
I would buy at least 5 boxes of 4x5 quickload!

Steve Hamley
20-Dec-2011, 06:55
Folks,

I spoke with Jeff at Badger Graphic this morning and he has not heard back from Fuji.

The current total not counting my wishes, are 50 boxes 4x5 QL and 46 boxes 8x10. My guess is that's getting close to a "go" if the price is right.

So be thinking about Acros and maybe this will happen shortly after the holidays.

Cheers, Steve

Renato Tonelli
20-Dec-2011, 07:08
Steve - I sent you a PM

cdholden
20-Dec-2011, 07:34
The current total not counting my wishes, are 50 boxes 4x5 QL and 46 boxes 8x10. My guess is that's getting close to a "go" if the price is right.


...and those numbers are just from here. They'll be higher cross posting to other forums and making it "official".
Hot diggity.

Rod_B
20-Dec-2011, 11:26
Hi,
I'd be interested in 2-5 boxes of QL Acros if the price is reasonable. However, I'm in the UK so the additional import duties/tax may make this too expensive,
Kindest regards,
Rod.

Mot
24-Dec-2011, 19:28
I could be in for ten boxes of the 4x5 QL.

Tom

Steve Hamley
26-Dec-2011, 14:19
Folks,

I spoke with Jeff at Badger Graphic this morning, no word from Fuji yet. I did relay the totals that people were interested in if the price break is good enough.

Cheers, Steve

Jim Cole
27-Dec-2011, 05:28
Steve,

Just found this thread.

I'm in for 2 boxes of 8x10, pending final price.

Thanks for putting this together,
Jim

sergiob
27-Dec-2011, 06:58
If they can be as competitive in price as they are in smaller formats, I'm in for all my LF film. I don't understand why it is way cheaper in 120 size than the rest of brands and in 4x5 and up it is more expensive. In the meantime I'll stick to Acros only in 120 and to Ilford in LF.

Leigh
27-Dec-2011, 08:45
I'm going to back out of this. It makes no sense (to me) to standardize on a film that requires this much hassle to get a basic supply, and presumably a similar exercise to get additional stock in the future.

It would be nice to talk one of the retail outlets into importing this direct so we could buy it when we want to.

If my withdrawal will crash the entire deal, I'll abide by my original commitment.

- Leigh

anglophone1
27-Dec-2011, 09:02
Hi,
I'd be interested in 2-5 boxes of QL Acros if the price is reasonable. However, I'm in the UK so the additional import duties/tax may make this too expensive,
Kindest regards,
Rod.

I just bought some 4x5 Portra 400 from B&H (same price as Badger) and even with tax etc. it came out a lot better than European prices.
Given this I'd be in for 5 boxes of QL Acros, when will we have a price?
Best
Clive

domaz
27-Dec-2011, 09:35
I would be in for 5 boxes of 4x5 Acros QL.

Sal Santamaura
27-Dec-2011, 09:55
...I don't understand why it is way cheaper in 120 size than the rest of brands...That's called "dumping."

Brian C. Miller
27-Dec-2011, 10:34
I'm going to back out of this. It makes no sense (to me) to standardize on a film that requires this much hassle to get a basic supply, and presumably a similar exercise to get additional stock in the future.

You mean like Kodak? :p

If you want Acros 8x10 right now, then it's only a web order to Japan. They seem to have an unlimited supply over there, and there's a good supply of 4x5 over here.
Whereas with Kodak, you need to pony up with enough people until you get a $15,000 order together. And maybe the order doesn't come together.

I'm sure that Badger will sell all that's imported. Have to wait for the holidays to subside, though.

Leigh
27-Dec-2011, 10:45
You mean like Kodak? :p
If you want Acros 8x10 right now, then it's only a web order to Japan.
Nope. I've been shooting for 56 years and the only yellow-box products I use(d) are Kodachrome and Stop Bath. That list is now shorter by one.

I use Acros almost exclusively for 4x5 (with Ilford FP4+ as backup), and thought it would be nice to have it for 8x10 also, but it's too much hassle.

I currently shoot FP4+ in 8x10 and will continue to do so.

- Leigh

ross
27-Dec-2011, 13:11
I'll take 5 boxes of 4x5 QL.

davidbogdan
7-Jan-2012, 02:47
I may be interested in 5-10 boxes on the quickloads ... are you able to nail a price yet?

db

Rick Tardiff
7-Jan-2012, 04:58
Count me in for 4x5, depending on price 3 -5 boxes.

Steve Hamley
12-Jan-2012, 16:10
No word from Fuji yet....

Cheers, Steve

Joseph Dickerson
12-Jan-2012, 16:46
Another who needs 4-5 boxes of 4x5 Quickload. :D

JD

mvanderaa
12-Jan-2012, 17:54
I would purchase at least 5 boxes of the 4x5 quickload. Thanks for trying to get this done!

Rick Russell
12-Jan-2012, 21:08
I would purchase 5 boxes of Acros 4x5 Quickload

ljsegil
13-Jan-2012, 11:36
I'll probably up my quickload request to ten boxes.
LJS

Jim Cole
26-Jan-2012, 15:34
Steve,

Is anything happening on this special order deal? It's been quiet for a while.

Thanks

JamesGilmore
1-Feb-2012, 02:41
In for two boxes, provided price isn't exorbitant...

Jim Cole
11-Feb-2012, 15:47
Trying to keep this thread alive and see if there is any news on the special order situation.

Jim Cole
21-Feb-2012, 05:58
Another bump.

Nathan Potter
21-Feb-2012, 10:13
Nada.

Nate Potter, Austin TX.

Renato Tonelli
21-Feb-2012, 10:52
Is Fuji still producing QuickLodads? I still don't know for sure.
I checked their Japanese website and the material is there but is it still being manufactured?
Is Japan alone a big enough market for Quickloads?

Frankly, I don't get it.

SW Rick
21-Feb-2012, 10:54
Is Fuji still producing QuickLodads? I still don't know for sure.
I checked their Japanese website and the material is there but is it still being manufactured?
Is Japan alone a big enough market for Quickloads?

Frankly, I don't get it.

I asked the same question months ago, never got a good answer. But I gather japan exposures.com still is selling it, and they had told me it was still in production. I'm just not ready to pay $125-150 per box of 20.

Drew Wiley
21-Feb-2012, 11:49
They quit making Quickloads some time ago. Everything now is residual inventory. Why would they sell that at a discount here when they can make more money leaving it where it already is? 8X10 cut sheet is a different story. It could hypothetically be made available
here, but someone would have to order quite a bit and hope they even listen.

DolphinDan
22-Feb-2012, 11:09
I e-mailed Jeff at BADGER GRAPHIC a couple of days ago. He told me that the 8x10 ACROS 100 did not generate enough orders, so it is not going forward. Looks like JAPAN EXPOSURES is your best bet for ACROS 100 in 8x10, at least for now...

Namaste
Daniel

cdholden
22-Feb-2012, 20:13
I asked the same question months ago, never got a good answer. But I gather japan exposures.com still is selling it, and they had told me it was still in production. I'm just not ready to pay $125-150 per box of 20.

I'm looking at it right now... $184.68. That's the price tag BEFORE shipping!

jack_hui
23-Feb-2012, 02:33
Just see it today, how many extra boxes of 8x10 for group order?? I can take at least 10 boxes.


I e-mailed Jeff at BADGER GRAPHIC a couple of days ago. He told me that the 8x10 ACROS 100 did not generate enough orders, so it is not going forward. Looks like JAPAN EXPOSURES is your best bet for ACROS 100 in 8x10, at least for now...

Namaste
Daniel

Brian C. Miller
23-Feb-2012, 09:46
He told me that the 8x10 ACROS 100 did not generate enough orders, so it is not going forward.

Did he mention how much would need to be ordered?