Aircraft

[peter ramm]

Don't see many aircraft portraits in LF. Here's a start. Sinar P2 8 x 10, Apo Sinaron 480mm

Peter

[altair]

That's an amazing photo Peter, well done. I like it very much, particularly the tight composition and amazing sky.

Is that a scanned negative or print?

[Mark Sampson]

Peter, nicely done. Lockheed Electra 12-A or Beech 18?

[Deane Johnson]

Very nice, to say the least.

[peter ramm]

Thanks, gentlemen. That's a scanned negative on FP4+, developed in DDX at N-2. It's a tilt exercise, with a narrow focal wedge running along the entire dorsal part of the hull and tail. The engines are a bit below, and are soft.

Mark, good spotting. 1937 Lockheed L12A catching evening rays.

Peter

[Steve_Renwick]

I think I posted this already on a different thread. This was taken with a Speed Graphic at the Schellevile airport in the SF Bay area.

[Roger Cole]

I've shot quite a bit FROM an airplane, being a private pilot, but all of that so far as been not only "tiny format" but digital. I may take up the 35mm gear but I don't imagine doing any LF while flying (as pilot.)

None of the small format digitals I've shot are particularly artistic but a few might be interesting. I may post them in the "safe haven for tiny formats" thread, or at least get them on my Flickr to link.

My instructor, who soloed in 1947 and has been flying ever since, used to fly Electras. :) But then again, he used to fly almost everything.

[lenser]

Roger, If you can find the illustrations, take a look at what Steichen and others shot hand held from Curtis Jenny's and other platforms during WWI. Big Bertha's with 4x5/8x10 material. Look to be about thirty inches long and operated by a pistol grip triggering system underneath. This one is a Graflex.

Like so much else in photography, aerial work started with large format and devolved.

[Roger Cole]

Roger, If you can find the illustrations, take a look at what Steichen and others shot hand held from Curtis Jenny's and other platforms during WWI. Big Bertha's with 4x5/8x10 material. Look to be about thirty inches long and operated by a pistol grip triggering system underneath. This one is a Graflex.

Like so much else in photography, aerial work started with large format and devolved.

Oh yeah, it's do-able, just more trouble than I care for. I also think in those cases the photographers weren't also the pilots. The planes I fly don't (for the most part) have auto pilots. It can even be a challenge to fold a chart or the like in a bit of turbulence. I'd rather not be fooling with a Graphic. My Pentax LX just maybe! ;)

[Sirius Glass]

I took a Pacemaker Speed Graphic to an airshow. I took twenty photographs. Many more photographs were taking of me taking photographs.

[Sirius Glass]

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[Heroique]

There it is – up in the sky!

I’ve never shot a plane, but I often find them in my photos.

Especially when I use tight-grained films.

With even greater magnification, you can sometimes see the pilot.

Tachi 4x5
Schneider XL 110mm/5.6
Polaroid Type 55
Epson 4990/Epson Scan

[RPippin]

My friend Brian's '42 Boeing Stearman Biplane.

[threemilesfinal]

very cool! as soon as i get my paws on something LF, i'll contribute a fair bit to this thread.

that first photo by peter, AMAZING. looking forward to more in here.

[peter ramm]

Walkies!! Sinar P2 8 x 10, Grandagon 200mm, f32, FP4+

[Robert A. Zeichner]

Taken with a TF (tiny format) SLR (Pentax 110 SLR) on Verichrome Pan. The galley of the restaurant is upstairs in the fuselage of the Super G.

[Randy]

Robert, where (and when) was this taken? My father spent many hours flying in the US Navy version of the Constellation - "Willy Victor" back in the 1960's. He will get a kick out of this.


Taken with a TF (tiny format) SLR (Pentax 110 SLR) on Verichrome Pan. The galley of the restaurant is upstairs in the fuselage of the Super G.

[Robert A. Zeichner]

Robert, where (and when) was this taken? My father spent many hours flying in the US Navy version of the Constellation - "Willy Victor" back in the 1960's. He will get a kick out of this.

This was made in the late '70's early '80's on a trip to the Princeton NJ area. I believe this was in PA just on or near the NJ border. They still kept the bubble port just behind the cockpit (presumably so the crew could see which engine was on fire).

[jmooney]

Taken with a TF (tiny format) SLR (Pentax 110 SLR) on Verichrome Pan. The galley of the restaurant is upstairs in the fuselage of the Super G.

Hi Robert,

Where was this taken? It reminds me of something from my childhood.

Jim

[Robert A. Zeichner]

Okay, I found this on the web. More detail than I was aware of:
the aircraft was purchased by Jim Flannery in August 1967 for use as a cocktail lounge atop his restaurant in Penndel, Pennsylvania. N1005C opened for business above “Jim Flannery’s Restaurant” in August 1968 and for 29 years it was a local landmark along U.S. Route 1 in Penndel. All good things must come to an end and in July 1997 she was hoisted back down to earth to make room for an Amoco service station. Instead of scrapping the airplane, the enlightened folks at Amoco donated the aircraft to the AMC Museum and she was moved by road to Dover on October 25, 1997. The aircraft was stored disassembled at the museum until July 2003, when she was reassembled using the engines, props and undercarriage salvaged from NC-121K BuNo 141292. These components had been discarded when N1005C was converted to a cocktail lounge back in 1968.

[jmooney]

I thought that's what it was!

I ate there once as a kid and always awed at it when we drove by. I grew up in Bensalem which borders Penndel where "The Airplane" as it was known stood. Sad day when they took it down. It's been gone long enough now that it's been forgotten.

Thanks for posting the pic!

[Richard M. Coda]

http://www.pctype.com/rcphoto/test/AirForceOne_800.jpg

http://www.pctype.com/rcphoto/test/PimaAirSpace001.jpg

http://www.pctype.com/rcphoto/test/PimaAirSpace2001.jpg

All from Pima Air & Space Museum in Tucson, AZ, March, 2008.
4x5 Arca Swiss, Fuji 210, TMax 100 (BW) Fuji Velvia 100 (color)

[Jerry Bodine]

I flew on a Constellation once in 1956 to go for a job interview upon university graduation. It was quite an experience to use the lav and sit there with a HUGE round window watching clouds drifting by. That was around the time pressurized fuselages were experiencing "blowouts" from metal fatigue, because the aircraft industry hadn't yet developed the technology to minimize those failures. Nowadays, those failures are quite rare. But I shudder to recall the visit to the lav, because there was no seat belt on the throne to keep one from jettisoning if that window blew.

[peter ramm]

My father flew Connies in the fifties and would take me along sometimes. Things were less formal back then. My mother said that I was in the cockpit once when one of the engines needed to be shut down. Pretty common occurrence with those big radials. Apparently I ran back into the passenger area yelling "daddy broke the engine". Sadly, they are both gone so I can't verify this conclusively but I hope it's true.

[bobwysiwyg]

I'm old enough to have flown on Connies as a passenger. ;) As I recall, they were very noisy and shook like the dickens. :eek: :)

[Randy]

Okay, I found this on the web. More detail than I was aware of: "...the engines, props and undercarriage salvaged from NC-121K BuNo 141292. These components had been discarded when N1005C was converted to a cocktail lounge back in 1968."

Robert, from my Dad - "Enjoyed the site with the Connie. When they mentioned getting engines from the old WV2, 141292 which was the last one in use, it was one I flew in quite a lot."

My Dad flew as flight engineer in his early days in the Navy. Most of the flights were from Argentia Newfoundland to Iceland and the Azores. I believe they looked for Russian subs. Such a small world - you post an old picture you took of a plane in the 70's and the engines came off a plane my Dad flew in the 60's.

[Robert A. Zeichner]

Robert, from my Dad - "Enjoyed the site with the Connie. When they mentioned getting engines from the old WV2, 141292 which was the last one in use, it was one I flew in quite a lot."

My Dad flew as flight engineer in his early days in the Navy. Most of the flights were from Argentia Newfoundland to Iceland and the Azores. I believe they looked for Russian subs. Such a small world - you post an old picture you took of a plane in the 70's and the engines came off a plane my Dad flew in the 60's.

Quite a story. Ask your dad if the type he flew in had those strange bulges above the fuselage. I think those housed the equipment for sniffing out the subs. I seem to remember building a plastic model of one of those when I was a kid.

[Randy]

Ask your dad if the type he flew in had those strange bulges above the fuselage.

Yes, they did.

[peter ramm]

I'd like you to meet my little friend.

8x10, 200mm, fp4+

[Howard Tanger]

In early 1959 I flew in a MATS version of the Constellation from the Oakland, Calif. area to Clark AFB in the Philippines. The seats were arranged so that the passengers faced to the rear of the aircraft. It took 48 hours to reach Clark AFB with 10 hour legs between the islands across the Pacific. We spent about 4 to 5 days at Clark then off we flew to Taiwan where I spent the next 15 months. Howard

[windpointphoto]

Flew to Japan for a three year tour in 1958 on a MATS Connie. I was 6 years old, and my dad was in SAC. I got to ride in the cockpit. Thanks for the memories!

[John Kasaian]

I got to ride in a connie when Eastern Airlines flew a collection of four engined airliners on their Shuttle up and down the eastern seaboard back in the early 60's
They were beautiful birds. One of my favorite chatzkys is a huge metal model of an Eir Lingus Super Constellation in a fitted wooden case which I was given for helping to clean out the store room of a travel agency (remember those?)

[Roger Cole]

I found out a pilot friend is also into 4x5 photography, of which I had no idea until recently. Since we're both pilots we've been talking about asking some of our airplane owning friends about photographing their birds (well, my friend is an owner but there's nothing all that photogenic about yet another Cherokee 140, though I imagine we could work something up.)

[windpointphoto]

B-17 cockpit.

[peter ramm]

Nice shot of the B17 cockpit. Is it available larger?

Peter

[Andrew O'Neill]

RCAF CF-100 sitting at the aviation museum in Surrey, BC. 8x10 HP5 contact on Lodima.

[Howard Tanger]

A "P.S." to my earlier post, #30. When we left the Philippines enroute to Taiwan we flew on an "Air America" aircraft. We thought it was American Airlines but what did an unsophisticated 23 yr old know back in early 1959. Later we learned that Air America was operated by the CIA. Howard

[peter ramm]

Just a typical aircraft pic but it makes me feel like flying.

Sinar 8 x 10, fp4+, ApoSironar S 240mm @f32

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[Joseph Dickerson]

I took a Pacemaker Speed Graphic to an airshow. I took twenty photographs. Many more photographs were taking of me taking photographs.

Sirius,

You have identified a B-25 as a B-24. Just thought you'd like to know.

Lovely photos anyway!

JD

[Bruce Pollock]

Here's a de Havilland Tiger Moth at the British Columbia Aviation Museum in Sidney, BC. You can tell it's the Canadian version because it has a canopy to protect the pilot from the vicious Saskatchewan winter.

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[peter ramm]

Does anyone remember the framed B&W prints that used to be in the lobby of the Toronto Airport Hilton? Very mechanical pics of props and engines and the like. I remember seeing them some years ago and tried to find out who shot them, but no one at the hotel knew. I think they were removed as part of remodeling, but am not sure.

[peter ramm]

Let's resurrect this.

Sinar P2, FP4+, Rodie 240mm af F32, 7' tilt, Epson scan of the 8 x 10, cropped and tweaked in PS

[Miguel Coquis]

good !
is this going to fly to EU ?
I'll be glad to have a try !!!

[peter ramm]

good !
is this going to fly to EU ?
I'll be glad to have a try !!!

No immediate plans, Miguel. The only one in the EU (F-AZLL) belongs to Bernard Chabbert and flies out of Ferte, I believe.

[David Lobato]

In early 1959 I flew in a MATS version of the Constellation from the Oakland, Calif. area to Clark AFB in the Philippines. The seats were arranged so that the passengers faced to the rear of the aircraft. It took 48 hours to reach Clark AFB with 10 hour legs between the islands across the Pacific. We spent about 4 to 5 days at Clark then off we flew to Taiwan where I spent the next 15 months. Howard

Howard, my father left Taiwan in 1959 after a USAF tour there that began in 1958. He has a lot of aircraft stories from those days.

[Jerry Bodine]

Long retired now, by far the most satisfying time of my entire professional career as an aerospace structural engineer occurred from 1959 through 1963 while working on the XB-70 program at North American Aviation, Inc. It was a time when I’d get up on a Saturday morning (day off) and head in to work just for joy of it and work in relative solitude. My work was mostly in the crew compartment where the airframe used both high strength steel and titanium alloys because of the high temperatures (450F) involved at Mach 3. Aluminum was incapable of withstanding that much heat and was used sparingly in the interiors where the pilots were able to function in a shirt-sleeve environment. The key to that thermal gradient was use of a “transpirational wall” (thin sheet with tiny perforations) that covered the inboard chords of the frames. Much testing was necessary for the design of the jettisonable escape hatches above the pilots who were seated in capsules-on-rails that would seal them in (along with their environment) just prior to jettison via self-contained rocket. Ejection sequences, programmed, took place automatically once selected; pilot and co-pilot could eject separately if necessary. This system was designed for ejection at Mach 3 and 70,000 ft. After the capsules cleared the aircraft, telescoping booms would extend to stabilize the capsules from tumbling until the parachutes opened. Each capsule had in inflatable bag on its bottom to cushion the impact of a landing on terra firma or for flotation during a water landing. It was June 8, 1966 when I was participating in an Ansel Adams workshop in Yosemite that I was shocked to read the headline that the second of the two prototype airplanes suffered a mid-air collision with a chase plane and crashed on the desert floor during a slow-speed photo-op flight. I remember that day as if it happened just yesterday. The pilot was able to eject safely and survived – a harrowing experience as related in an interview to Time Magazine – but he was unable, due to the lateral G’s from the flat spin, to pull the co-pilot back into his capsule so he could eject him and he perished with the plane. Very, very sad.

For those interested, here is a relatively superficial story of the development of the airplane and the aftermath, with lots of pictures.

http://unrealaircraft.com/classics/xb70.php

[Jiri Vasina]

Let's resurrect this.

Sinar P2, FP4+, Rodie 240mm af F32, 7' tilt, Epson scan of the 8 x 10, cropped and tweaked in PS

If you want this resurrected, I may only contribute one of my older images:


http://www.vasina.net/wp-content/gallery/technika/p13x18-103_web.jpg (http://www.vasina.net/?p=336)

Ready to go...

Chamonix 5×8", Schneider Xenar 210mm f:4.5, 13×18cm Fomapan 100 @ EI 64, Developed in R09 (Rodinal variant)

Jiri

[Floyd Waller]

Sorry about the B-24 which was a 4-engine aircraft, but that is a B-25 Mitchell. Photos are great, however!

[DavyG]

Resurrection time ! :)

I was at the local port photographing something completely different, when all of a sudden a large helicopter from the Danish Defence (or maybe it was from the fleet idk) landed a few hundred meters from me. A few minutes later an ambulance came rushing up to it, and a stretcher was being moved from the ambulance to the helicopter.

It all happened very fast and I had barely time to swing the camera around, refocus and press the shutter, before it was taking off again.
(please ignore the dust)

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8526/8576733447_73507bbef3_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dagen_er_hvid/8576733447/)
Helicopter (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dagen_er_hvid/8576733447/) by DagenErHvid (http://www.flickr.com/people/dagen_er_hvid/), on Flickr

[goamules]

Long retired now, by far the most satisfying time of my entire professional career as an aerospace structural engineer occurred from 1959 through 1963 while working on the XB-70 program at North American Aviation, Inc. It was a time when I’d get up on a Saturday morning (day off) and head in to work just for joy of it and work in relative solitude. My work was mostly in the crew compartment where the airframe used both high strength steel and titanium alloys because of the high temperatures (450F) involved at Mach 3. Aluminum was incapable of withstanding that much heat and was used sparingly in the interiors where the pilots were able to function in a shirt-sleeve environment. The key to that thermal gradient was use of a “transpirational wall” (thin sheet with tiny perforations) that covered the inboard chords of the frames. Much testing was necessary for the design of the jettisonable escape hatches above the pilots who were seated in capsules-on-rails that would seal them in (along with their environment) just prior to jettison via self-contained rocket. Ejection sequences, programmed, took place automatically once selected; pilot and co-pilot could eject separately if necessary. This system was designed for ejection at Mach 3 and 70,000 ft. After the capsules cleared the aircraft, telescoping booms would extend to stabilize the capsules from tumbling until the parachutes opened. Each capsule had in inflatable bag on its bottom to cushion the impact of a landing on terra firma or for flotation during a water landing. It was June 8, 1966 when I was participating in an Ansel Adams workshop in Yosemite that I was shocked to read the headline that the second of the two prototype airplanes suffered a mid-air collision with a chase plane and crashed on the desert floor during a slow-speed photo-op flight. I remember that day as if it happened just yesterday. The pilot was able to eject safely and survived – a harrowing experience as related in an interview to Time Magazine – but he was unable, due to the lateral G’s from the flat spin, to pull the co-pilot back into his capsule so he could eject him and he perished with the plane. Very, very sad.

For those interested, here is a relatively superficial story of the development of the airplane and the aftermath, with lots of pictures.

http://unrealaircraft.com/classics/xb70.php

Wow, what a fantastic job that must have been. I was just watching the documentary on the XB-70, and then last night watched For All Mankind. We really had some things going in the aerospace world back in the 50s-70s. I worked with the Stealth as a training manager for several years, and some "other" programs.

[Alan Curtis]

This isn't exactly aircraft, it was faster than most aircraft. It's a rocket sled in New Mexico. My father was a photographer on this project. The photos were shot with a high speed 4x5 camera, the film was on a very large roll. They were made in the late 1950's. There was a version of this sled that was ridden by Col. John Stapp. In the second photo there is a long black object in the white flame, it is a howitzer projectile fired at the sled, I have no idea why. The sled was faster than the projectile. The sled went from 0 to just about the speed of sound and back to 0 in about two miles. It was stopped with a water brake method.

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[mpirie]

I'd love to shoot aircraft with my LF kit. There's something about the shapes and craftsmanship that goes into aircraft that intrigues me.

Do you guys know if it's possible to get access to the airplane graveyards you have out in Arizona/New Mexico/Nevada?

We're heading to California and Nevada soon, so would love to burn some film on aircraft.

Mike

[goamules]

This isn't exactly aircraft, it was faster than most aircraft. It's a rocket sled in New Mexico. My father was a photographer on this project. The photos were shot with a high speed 4x5 camera, the film was on a very large roll. They were made in the late 1950's. There was a version of this sled that was ridden by Col. John Stapp. In the second photo there is a long black object in the white flame, it is a howitzer projectile fired at the sled, I have no idea why. The sled was faster than the projectile. The sled went from 0 to just about the speed of sound and back to 0 in about two miles. It was stopped with a water brake method.

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Nice shots Alan. I worked at Holloman AFB and saw where this sled was, as well as the monkey farm where Ham, the first US astronaut chimp, was trained. White Sands and that part of NM were truly the cradle of space exploration. If you walk in the desert near there, you find some amazing things. I've actually found parts of rockets sticking out of the sand, in isolated areas.

[alanbutler57]

I"m still a neophyte in LF, tend to underexpose, but this one, underexposed and forgetting to blow the dust off the enlarger actually helped IMO. It is a pretty tight crop shot with a Speed Graphic at the airshow last fall in Ft. Worth. The second shot is a P-38 from the same show.

[Jerry Bodine]

Correction: In my post #46 I just discovered in re-reading it that the interview with Time mag should have been Life mag.

[Tim Stahl]

Trying to resurrect this thread.

The first is a Piper Cub (PA18) used by the Alaska State Troopers. Big tundra tires and all. Shot at Lake Hood Strip.

The center photo is a close up of a B29 that was converted for aerial fire fighting.

The B29 crash on a glacier in Alaska, here's what I know:
November 15, 1957 the plane (44-70039) left Elmendorf AFB at 9:56 a.m. It crashed at 6:22 p.m., after a training radar calibration flight. The crew were part of the 5040th Radar Evaluation team. Six were killed and four survived, kept alive by the least injured survivor. The cause of the accident, it was 27 miles East of it's assumed course.



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[smithdoor]

Here is one at SF CA AMR Combs 1997

[Bob Salomon]

I'm old enough to have flown on Connies as a passenger. ;) As I recall, they were very noisy and shook like the dickens. :eek: :)

Me too. Last one I flew was a Delta from Idelwild to Atlanta in 1961.

[jharr]

I took the Speed Graphic and some sheets of Ilford Delta 100 over to the aviation museum nearby my house on Marine Corps Air Station Miramar. It is a very good collection of planes and helicopters along with a small museum of Marine artifacts. There are always some great old Marines there telling stories and generally having a good time. If you like aviation, it is well worth a visit. Admission is free.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7496/15392773774_87fbdda522_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pscZnh)
Leatherneck 7 (https://flic.kr/p/pscZnh) by James Harr's Photos (https://www.flickr.com/people/12936819@N03/), on Flickr

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8676/15827625258_317e683d63_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/q7CHyE)
Leatherneck-8 (https://flic.kr/p/q7CHyE) by James Harr's Photos (https://www.flickr.com/people/12936819@N03/), on Flickr

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7482/15821527769_e6eda2dfb1_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/q76sZx)
Leatherneck-2 (https://flic.kr/p/q76sZx) by James Harr's Photos (https://www.flickr.com/people/12936819@N03/), on Flickr

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7576/15385269864_ec6d5673db_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/prxwHw)
Leatherneck-5 (https://flic.kr/p/prxwHw) by James Harr's Photos (https://www.flickr.com/people/12936819@N03/), on Flickr

[Nodda Duma]

Great pictures and a great display of USMC aircraft. My in-laws live in Scripps Ranch. Took the kids to see that display (and the USS Midway) before we moved from CA to NH four years ago.

[Ootsk]

At a local airport.
Omega 45e
Petzval lens, red filter.
fp4+ in rodinal.
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[Corran]

I took the Speed Graphic and some sheets of Ilford Delta 100 over to the aviation museum nearby my house on Marine Corps Air Station Miramar. It is a very good collection of planes and helicopters along with a small museum of Marine artifacts. There are always some great old Marines there telling stories and generally having a good time. If you like aviation, it is well worth a visit. Admission is free.

Nice shots!! I've been meaning to go to an air force museum near me with my 4x5 for months (it's about 2 hours away). Gotta do that! I really like the 3rd and 4th especially.

[nashir]

I also Able to say, This is the nice sharing.

[Michael Cienfuegos]

I was also visiting the museum at MCAS Miramar. I took my Pre-Anniversary Speed for this outing:

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[Fr. Mark]

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B-17 in Harrisburg, Pa, old Tmax 400, ? Tmax developer? Printed with prof. Mike Ware's new cyanotype chemistry.

[Fr. Mark]

Not sure why they came out sideways. iPhone snaps of prints on a bulletin board at my office.

[Fr. Mark]

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[Fr. Mark]

Upside down? Seriously? I know the image is right way around on my phone.
Camera used: Busch Pressman D 4x5, wollensak 135mm.
One of these days I might get the pinhole 5x8 and 8x10's posted.

[Pierre 2]

Here are my first ever 8x10...

Have recently picked up 2-D in nice condition, along with extremely nice wood film holders. I do have a brand new box of Kodak Ektascan on hand but found that the film holder were already loaded so took a guess at 50 ASA and exposed some of this film during an open door day at a local museum in the west end of Montreal http://www.cahc-ccpa.com

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I saw it fitting that this vintage camera would get back to use looking at a beautiful creation of its own vintage. As it happens, I smarted up before proceeding "in the dark" and looked again at the edge of one of those sheets of film to get an idea of what I had in those holders. Four square notches revealed Super Pan Press, rated at 200 ASA. Given some indications I found on the web and the age of the film, I prepared some stock D-76 at around 71F and developed for 7 minutes in a tube rolling on a motorised base. (exposure were around f22 for 2 minutes with Apo Ronar 300mm - did not take notes as this was really to use up these then unkown sheets). Quite happy with the results, particularly the idea of having given a good bath to those molds...

Will now have to prepare myself a scanning frame as these were scanned right on the glass of a v700 (The negatives look sharper than the scans).

Those picture are of a Blériot reproduction that flew last year (first and last flight before being put on permanent display). The original copy of this aircraft was the first to fly Montreal's sky, not that long after Gustav Whitehead first motorized flight http://www.gustave-whitehead.com.

For those of you who love aircraft pictures, fly-in breakfast are taking place all around the continent and provide for very nice photo opportunities. While the entrance is generally free, it is generally a good idea to plan on eating as food is generally sold to support the local flying chapter. I won't be able to attend my favorite, which is in St-Lazare on June 14th (near Montreal). (google St-Lazare Fly-in breakfast).

[Chris7521]

Got to go flying in this DeHavilland turbine Beaver last Friday. Landed on a couple alpine lakes on Kodiak which was cool. I actually landed here in a float plane 5 years ago for a goat hunt and it's a very cool spot. Nice to see it again.
Took this this with my Chamonix 045n2, Nikkor-SW 90mm f8 on delta 100.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3854/33545823841_a072110273_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/T7k7H8)img687x (https://flic.kr/p/T7k7H8) by Chris Badessa (https://www.flickr.com/photos/-chris_b/), on Flickr

[David Hedley]

That's a neat photograph, Chris, with a distinctive Delta 100 tonal palette. I also like the way the mountain line follows the wingspan.

By the way, how do you take off? With the skis still attached?

[chassis]

Great subject Chris. Good feeling of light and the location feels authentic.

[EarlJam]

First, a qualifier - not my photographs, but rather ones that my dad shot during WW II. My dad was a photo lab technician, attached to a B-17 recon squadron based at RAF Alconbury. He mostly spent time in the lab, as he used to say, "developing film, printing three of everything, and sending it to DC." I recently found a set of 4x5 negatives, taken on a mission in March 1944. I'm not sure what camera was used (EDIT: possibly a Crown Graphic). My dad commented that, as photographers, they always had film, cutting 120/620 and 4x5 from shortends of Kodak topographic (aerial) film leftover in the K24 magazines.

In this shot, my dad's the one with the 8x10 camera (Kodak 2D if memory serves. I found that camera stuffed into a cabinet in the garage, in 2011, along with a number of lenses and film holders. Forty years ago, I would have liked to have learned to use that camera; today, at $10 a shot, not so much.)
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[Chris7521]

That's a neat photograph, Chris, with a distinctive Delta 100 tonal palette. I also like the way the mountain line follows the wingspan.

By the way, how do you take off? With the skis still attached?
Thanks for the comment David. The wheel-skis have hydraulic pistons that raise and lower them.


Great subject Chris. Good feeling of light and the location feels authentic.
Thank you!

[Chris7521]

First, a qualifier - not my photographs, but rather ones that my dad shot during WW II. My dad was a photo lab technician, attached to a B-17 recon squadron based at RAF Alconbury. He mostly spent time in the lab, as he used to say, "developing film, printing three of everything, and sending it to DC." I recently found a set of 4x5 negatives, taken on a mission in March 1944. I'm not sure what camera was used. My dad commented that, as photographers, they always had film, cutting 120/620 and 4x5 from shortends of Kodak topographic (aerial) film leftover in the K24 magazines.

In this shot, my dad's the one with the 8x10 camera (Kodak 2D if memory serves. I found that camera stuffed into a cabinet in the garage, in 2011, along with a number of lenses and film holders. Forty years ago, I would have liked to have learned to use that camera; today, at $10 a shot, not so much.)

Cool to see him using the camera. Thanks for sharing.

[Jac@stafford.net]

My dad was a photo lab technician, attached to a B-17 recon squadron based at RAF Alconbury.
I know Alconbury. I was stationed at RAF Upper Heyford. Beautiful countrysides.

[Chauncey Walden]

Earl, try x-ray film - less than a buck a sheet.

[MultiFormat Shooter]

They still kept the bubble port just behind the cockpit (presumably so the crew could see which engine was on fire).

The bubble was for the navigator to shoot a "star pattern" with his sextant.

[Fr. Mark]

Nice shot of a very interesting airplane. I bet it climbs like crazy with that power plant! I've not mastered snow yet. Since I'm going to central TX, I guess I will have to practice on sand or cotton fields.

[Chris7521]

Nice shot of a very interesting airplane. I bet it climbs like crazy with that power plant! I've not mastered snow yet. Since I'm going to central TX, I guess I will have to practice on sand or cotton fields.
Thanks,yes it's pretty impressive. It has the PT6-34 so that's close to 700 shaft hp.

[bloodhoundbob]

Does anyone have any pics of a Pilatus-Fairchild PC-6 Turbo Porter? I flew Air America several times while on intelligence missions in Vietnam, but never carried a camera while on these missions. I had already flown in many planes, as I worked at the local airport during high school, but was really intrigued by this plane. The pilot told me the plane was not certified in the US due to its short take-off and landing capabilities. This model seated nine and had a huge wing span. Fascinating aircraft, which I'm thinking is probably being still used somewhere these days.

[jp]

Does anyone have any pics of a Pilatus-Fairchild PC-6 Turbo Porter? I flew Air America

I'm not sure of all the Porter variants, but you may enjoy watching on youtube "worst place to be a pilot" where young men fly Porters to jungle airstrips for local air service.

[bloodhoundbob]

I'm not sure of all the Porter variants, but you may enjoy watching on youtube "worst place to be a pilot" where young men fly Porters to jungle airstrips for local air service.

Thanks for the heads up, jp. The flight I took was from Nha Trang to Phan Thiet. We encountered a violent thunderstorm, which had us bobbing up and down like a yo-yo. Although I didn't speak the language, I could tell the seven Vietnamese officials flying with us were scared to death. I remember glancing over at the pilot, who was smoking a cigar and reading a comic book. I know we have some world travelers in this group, so I am hoping at least one has been able to set up their tripod near one.

[Jac@stafford.net]

I wonder how it had such superior STOL with the wing-over design thus very little ground effect. I used to fly Mitsubishi MU-2 which required terrific speed to lift, then went up like an express elevator. Had to push down fast.

[bloodhoundbob]

I wonder how it had such superior STOL with the wing-over design. I used to fly Mitsubishi MU-2 which required terrific speed to lift, then went up like an express elevator. Had to push down fast.

Not sure, Jac. I was used to conventional aircraft such as Cessnas, Stearmans, C-123s, 130s, Caribous, etc. When I walked up to the PP, I wondered what the hell I was looking at.

[Jac@stafford.net]

Not sure, Jac. I was used to conventional aircraft such as Cessnas, Stearmans, C-123s, 130s, Caribous, etc. When I walked up to the PP, I wondered what the hell I was looking at.

Yer my hero. I was cargo on some of them in the Sixties. :)

[Roger Thoms]

Does anyone have any pics of a Pilatus-Fairchild PC-6 Turbo Porter? I flew Air America several times while on intelligence missions in Vietnam, but never carried a camera while on these missions. I had already flown in many planes, as I worked at the local airport during high school, but was really intrigued by this plane. The pilot told me the plane was not certified in the US due to its short take-off and landing capabilities. This model seated nine and had a huge wing span. Fascinating aircraft, which I'm thinking is probably being still used somewhere these days.


Not sure if I have any pictures, but the Parachute Center in Lodi Ca use to fly Turbo Porter, awesome aircraft. Probably have a couple hundred jumps out of that Porter, but that was in a previous life. :)

[bloodhoundbob]

Not sure if I have any pictures, but the Parachute Center in Lodi Ca use to fly Turbo Porter, awesome aircraft. Probably have a couple hundred jumps out of that Porter, but that was in a previous life. :)

You're a brave man, Roger. No way I go out that door unless the plane's on the ground and stopped!

[kenj8246]

DC-3 et alia. Lone Star museum on Galveston Island TX.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2906/33269291785_ba85fdf999_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/SFTPn4)Continental DC3 02 (https://flic.kr/p/SFTPn4) by Kenny Johnson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/bykenny/), on Flickr

[bloodhoundbob]

DC-3 et alia. Lone Star museum on Galveston Island TX.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2906/33269291785_ba85fdf999_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/SFTPn4)Continental DC3 02 (https://flic.kr/p/SFTPn4) by Kenny Johnson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/bykenny/), on Flickr

Superb, Kenny!

[John Kasaian]

The Pilatus Turbo-Porter is what Super Cubs want to be when they grow up :)

[Fr. Mark]

I think that next to the word "airplane" in the dictionary there ought to be a picture of a D.C.-3.

[Leszek Vogt]

Believe it or not, the DC-3 might still be in service....I was a passenger on one in 1992.

You can see one at anytime at Whitehorse, YT. Once of these days I'll have to pull 5x7 and do justice :>).
http://www.jproc.ca/rrp/whitehorse_other.html

Les

[kenj8246]

Thank you. I always preferred the nice, easy level departure of the DC-3. :)

[Ken Lee]

http://www.kennethleegallery.com/images/forum/plane.jpg
Vintage Model Airplane
Sinar P, 210mm Macro Sironar
4x5 TMY, D-23

Does this count ?

[bloodhoundbob]

Thank you. I always preferred the nice, easy level departure of the DC-3. :)

It was strange to see them in airline service when I was a little kid in St Louis, then years later in the AC-47 "Puff The Magic Dragon" version doing its thing in Vietnam. What a contrast!

[Alan Curtis]

Lee County (FL) Mosquito Control has 5 C-47's that they routinely use for aerial adulticiding.

[Michael Clark]

http://www.kennethleegallery.com/images/forum/plane.jpg
Vintage Model Airplane
Sinar P, 210mm Macro Sironar
4x5 TMY, D-23

Does this count ?
An early version of advance Uni-body construction.

[Jac@stafford.net]

I think the Gooney Bird (DC-3) flew almost by accident. Synchronize the engines, and go. A beautiful aircraft.
.

[bloodhoundbob]

The DC-3 and the B-52. The cockroaches of the sky. And I mean that in the nicest way possible.

[David Lobato]

Ken, the rim lit profile of the fuselage is beautifully done.

[David Lobato]

Years ago an aviation mechanic friend tried to talk me into starting a small air freight business with a DC-3. He has an affection for DC-3s and I think he daydreamed of being in the cockpit with a cigar in one hand and the yoke in the other.

[Fr. Mark]

Do we put the C-130 in that same, live forever category that you put the B-52 and DC-3?

[kenj8246]

Riding a DC-3 always reminded me of riding in a '56 Cadillac...sedate. Just like I like it. :)

[bloodhoundbob]

Do we put the C-130 in that same, live forever category that you put the B-52 and DC-3?

Ahhhh I forgot the venerable C-130, which is inexcusable, as I rode in them all over Vietnam many times. What a workhorse.

[alanbutler57]

My first "keeper" with my Speed back in 2012, converted from Vericolor 400

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8339/8191602169_0dd6ec7be9_c.jpg

A couple from last year's Wings Over Dallas Show, Speed Graphic and FP4

https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5766/30953067886_8ed063ba12_b.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5736/30988172675_a6cf2dc025_b.jpg


More shots of Wings Over Dallas with the Speed:

http://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/showthread.php?134823-Wings-Over-Dallas-Airshow&highlight=Wings+Dallas

[bloodhoundbob]

My first "keeper" with my Speed back in 2012, converted from Vericolor 400

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8339/8191602169_0dd6ec7be9_c.jpg

A couple from last year's Wings Over Dallas Show, Speed Graphic and FP4

https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5766/30953067886_8ed063ba12_b.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5736/30988172675_a6cf2dc025_b.jpg


More shots of Wings Over Dallas with the Speed:

http://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/showthread.php?134823-Wings-Over-Dallas-Airshow&highlight=Wings+Dallas

Great shots, Alan, from you and that Speedy. Very nice.

[alanbutler57]

Thanks Bob,
And I appreciate all those rides you took in the C130's.

[bloodhoundbob]

Thanks Bob,
And I appreciate all those rides you took in the C130's.

Thank you, Alan. BTW I never saw the AC-130 in action in Vietnam, but I did see an AC-47 firing away one night right outside the perimeter of the air base and 5th Special Forces Headquarters. Once you have seen and heard one of these in action, it is an experience you can never forget. I wanted to add that the craziest flight I took over there was in an Air America C-46. I was the only American passenger, as the rest were Vietnamese villagers along with their chickens and other animals, some of which were running loose in the cabin. Unforgettable.

[Chris7521]

Great shot. One of the all time coolest planes, the P-38.


My first "keeper" with my Speed back in 2012, converted from Vericolor 400

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8339/8191602169_0dd6ec7be9_c.jpg

[peter ramm]

Nice to see this activity. Here's one from a while ago, trying to remember how it was done. FP4, 8 x 10, Rodie 240S I think

163337

[bloodhoundbob]

Nice to see this activity. Here's one from a while ago, trying to remember how it was done. FP4, 8 x 10, Rodie 240S I think

163337

Excellent, Peter. Your shot just exudes power!

[peter ramm]

Thank you. That brief moment in time between a fresh overhaul and a life covered in oil.

[kenj8246]

RC B-29 Dina Might at the Lone Star Flight Museum on Galveston Island TX. Chamonix field camera, Rodenstock 150mm lens, Kodak Tri-X 320. Scale is 1/5, I think.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2936/33781759142_226f10a203_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Ttbm49)RC B-29 Dina Might (https://flic.kr/p/Ttbm49) by Kenny Johnson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/bykenny/), on Flickr

[johnmsanderson]

RC B-29 Dina Might at the Lone Star Flight Museum on Galveston Island TX. Chamonix field camera, Rodenstock 150mm lens, Kodak Tri-X 320. Scale is 1/5, I think.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2936/33781759142_226f10a203_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Ttbm49)RC B-29 Dina Might (https://flic.kr/p/Ttbm49) by Kenny Johnson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/bykenny/), on Flickr

Love this!

[Fr. Mark]

Me too. I bet that model flies and has capability to drop "bombs" too. Some of the giant scale models use a lot of RC channels. I first got some exposure when my 20 yo was maybe 12-15 and saw an air show sign. I knew there was no airport anywhere in the area but decided to see what was going on: huge flying models! It was a great time.

[kenj8246]

Me too. I bet that model flies and has capability to drop "bombs" too. Some of the giant scale models use a lot of RC channels. I first got some exposure when my 20 yo was maybe 12-15 and saw an air show sign. I knew there was no airport anywhere in the area but decided to see what was going on: huge flying models! It was a great time.

Found this on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmKdA6L_MWk

[johnmsanderson]

NAS Pensacola Museum (this place is amazing)

http://john-sanderson.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/IG_Naval-Aviation_Cabot.jpg

http://john-sanderson.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/IG_Naval-Aviation.jpg

[Corran]

That place is cool, I went there about 4 years ago. Is that plane in the first image swinging?!

I'm guessing you had a tripod - any issues there? I have never tried bringing in a tripod to those types of places because I just assume I'd not be allowed to.

[johnmsanderson]

Yeah, the MIG was swinging as well as the Edna III Drone (I interpret it as flying)


They were more than happy to let me wander around with a tripod (you'd be surprised what can happen if you ask!) I could spend days there shooting.

The most interesting piece there for me was the Japanese Kawanishi N1K2 "George" in the center left of the Cabot control tower. Rare bird

[austin granger]

No aircraft obviously, but the building in the background served as a Navy blimp hangar during WWII. Currently an air museum, I understand it's the largest clear-span wooden structure in the world.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4243/35075721005_8226a24dbb_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/VrweQr)Tillamook, Oregon (https://flic.kr/p/VrweQr) by Austin Granger (https://www.flickr.com/photos/austingranger/), on Flickr

[Rich14]

Leviathan!

[alanbutler57]

I took this during my first outing with my Speed Graphic back in 2012. It's a very, very small crop (150 mm lens at the time) of the Tora, Tora, Tora team at the Alliance Air Show. I left the scratches, and dirt specs for more of a vintage vibe.

A date that will live in infamy:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8348/8174020819_531a058506_c.jpg

[MultiFormat Shooter]

No aircraft obviously, but the building in the background served as a Navy blimp hangar during WWII. Currently an air museum, I understand it's the largest clear-span wooden structure in the world.

Cool shot of a cool building! Do you have any images from the museum inside?

[MultiFormat Shooter]

I took this during my first outing with my Speed Graphic back in 2012. It's a very, very small crop (150 mm lens at the time) of the Tora, Tora, Tora team at the Alliance Air Show. I left the scratches, and dirt specs for more of a vintage vibe.

Great shot! Looks very "real." Was that from the ground or were you in a chase plane?

[alanbutler57]

Thanks MFS,
I was on the ground and decided to shoot a "Hail Mary" even though I didn't have enough lens.

[austin granger]

Cool shot of a cool building! Do you have any images from the museum inside?
Thanks. Although I did go inside, I didn't make any LF pictures. If you google "Tillamook Air Museum" you can see what it looks like and find a bunch of interesting historical photos.

[chassis]

Nice aircraft photos. Yesterday during a local airshow, the B-29 Superfortress "FIFI" flew directly over my house. I have an iPhone shot, not the best quality and not on topic here.

[Kerosene Hat]

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4288/34961013002_43d9887999_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Vgok9f)
Delta Flight Museum 747-1 (https://flic.kr/p/Vgok9f) by Brandon Ward (https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_ward/), on Flickr

747 exhibit at the Delta Flight Museum in Atlanta, Georgia. Tri-X 320, Wista RF, 150mm Caltar-II lens, orange filter, Ilfotec HC 1+31 @ 4:30

[Corran]

Nice one Brandon! I like the rain-soaked asphalt. I'd love to go there - I drove by there once but it was closed and I'd forgotten about it since. Let me know if you are going again!

[Kerosene Hat]

Thanks, Brian! I was there the Sunday before last and lucked out with some awful weather...got soaked prior to getting this image, but it was totally worth it. When the thunder and lightning started getting closer together, I packed it in and took off...spent an hour outside with this '47 - next time, I'll have to go in the actual museum...

[Kerosene Hat]

I took this during my first outing with my Speed Graphic back in 2012. It's a very, very small crop (150 mm lens at the time) of the Tora, Tora, Tora team at the Alliance Air Show. I left the scratches, and dirt specs for more of a vintage vibe.

A date that will live in infamy:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8348/8174020819_531a058506_c.jpg

Love the feel of a vintage newsreel rushed through processing on this. Nice.

[jesse]

Ebony 4x5, Schneider Super Symmar XL 110mm, FP4+

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8708/28307651110_2821d9489f_h.jpg

[Kerosene Hat]

Ebony 4x5, Schneider Super Symmar XL 110mm, FP4+

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8708/28307651110_2821d9489f_h.jpg
Great job getting in close on this one. How'd you arrange clearance with the airline?

[Kerosene Hat]

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4030/34881271674_976d844538.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/V9kCPL)Turbofan 1 (https://flic.kr/p/V9kCPL) by Brandon Ward (https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_ward/)

Turbofan engine for (I believe) a Boeing 767, Delta Aviation Museum, Atlanta, Georgia USA.

[Kerosene Hat]

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4259/35553928942_2872677e0e_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WaMboS)
Turbofan 2 (https://flic.kr/p/WaMboS) by Brandon Ward (https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_ward/), on Flickr

Turbofan engine for (I believe) a Boeing 767, Delta Aviation Museum, Atlanta, Georgia USA.

[peter ramm]

That last one is great!

[Chauncey Walden]

OK vintage airplane buffs, here are two shots that were on some glass plane negatives that I've had for a while. My guess is France in the early 1920s. Anyone want to figure out what the planes were? Especially interesting to me is the one with the passenger cabin. Potez?

[chrism]

I think the aircraft with a cabin is a modified DH9.

[Kerosene Hat]

That last one is great!

Thanks, Peter!

[Chauncey Walden]

Chrism, you nailed it. I have found photos with the cockpit both fore and aft of the cabin. So any chance the one to the left of it in the photo with hangar is a DH9 reengined with a Liberty engine?

[Mark Sampson]

I think they also used the DH-4 for passengers, the airplane on the right may be one of those.

[chrism]

I think they also used the DH-4 for passengers, the airplane on the right may be one of those.

Yes, more likely a DH4 than a re-engined DH9.

[jp]

B17 Engine at Owls Head Transportation Museum. August 2017. Owls Head Maine. 4x5 preanniversary speed graphic with 7.25" verito soft focus lens. FP4+ film in pyrocat hdc.



https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4411/36493539005_b7d84dcc01_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/XANVJn)
img901 (https://flic.kr/p/XANVJn) by Jason Philbrook (https://www.flickr.com/photos/13759696@N02/), on Flickr

[alanbutler57]

B17 Engine at Owls Head Transportation Museum. August 2017. Owls Head Maine. 4x5 preanniversary speed graphic with 7.25" verito soft focus lens. FP4+ film in pyrocat hdc.



https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4411/36493539005_b7d84dcc01_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/XANVJn)
img901 (https://flic.kr/p/XANVJn) by Jason Philbrook (https://www.flickr.com/photos/13759696@N02/), on Flickr


Gorgeous!

[jp]

Thanks Alan

Same plane, camera, film, lens.



https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4419/35676368144_25fe7d4f2e_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WmAHiA)
img905 (https://flic.kr/p/WmAHiA) by Jason Philbrook (https://www.flickr.com/photos/13759696@N02/), on Flickr

[Ken Lee]

Thanks Alan

Same plane, camera, film, lens.



https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4419/35676368144_25fe7d4f2e_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WmAHiA)
img905 (https://flic.kr/p/WmAHiA) by Jason Philbrook (https://www.flickr.com/photos/13759696@N02/), on Flickr



Bravo !

[Kerosene Hat]

Visit to the Delta Flight Museum + afternoon storm yielded this.

Portra 160VC readyload (expired - like the magenta shift)
f/32 - incident metered
WistaRF 4x5

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4429/36161110143_32a9dd5762_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/X6r9dg)
Express Storm Delay (https://flic.kr/p/X6r9dg)

by Brandon Ward (https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_ward/), on Flickr

[rrunnertexas]

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4366/37093276145_1b5f08f4c0_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/YvNJFT)Seroco 5x7 DC3 Rotory Engine Small (https://flic.kr/p/YvNJFT) by rrunnertexas (https://www.flickr.com/photos/18736302@N03/), on Flickr

A shot from this weekend. A beautiful DC3 posing for the camera - 1905 Seroco (Sears) 5x7 drop bed model. Exposure - 1/4 second at f/32 with a Rollei orange filter on Ilford FP4+.

[MultiFormat Shooter]

A shot from this weekend. A beautiful DC3 posing for the camera - 1905 Seroco (Sears) 5x7 drop bed model. Exposure - 1/4 second at f/32 with a Rollei orange filter on Ilford FP4+.

Nice! Was this an "airshow plane" or one that is still in commercial use? In any case, it's a great shot!

[rrunnertexas]

This one is in active service for a company, but not sure which one. I do know it is not a passenger plane, but maybe photography of some kind from the air. The manager was so nice and let me walk up to it and make some images on the runway.

[Fr. Mark]

I love DC-3's. They ought to be depicted next to "airplane" in the dictionary.

[Mark Sampson]

I agree with Fr. Mark; the DC-3 is certainly the greatest airplane ever to fly. And that's fine photograph of an unusually clean radial engine, too.

[Mark Sampson]

jp- I'm not generally a fan of soft-focus lenses. But you've used yours very well in the two photographs on the preceding page. Well done! And I write as a B-17 aficionado, so I appreciate your subject as well.

[jp]

Thanks Mark (and Ken).

I had special permission to visit an hour before the public started arriving so I could photograph the shiny subject without reflections of people. Not completely necessary, but VERY helpful.

A DC3 has probably not been at our airport in several decades.. I'd love to photograph one.

[MultiFormat Shooter]

This one is in active service for a company, but not sure which one.

Nice to see a piston-engined DC-3 still in service. Glad to hear the manager was nice...not something you see too much anymore, unfortunately.

[rrunnertexas]

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4397/37023479566_5a3d460a65_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/YpD1AA)Seroco 5x7 DC3 Front View (https://flic.kr/p/YpD1AA) by rrunnertexas (https://www.flickr.com/photos/18736302@N03/), on Flickr

Second shot with the same camera. Here's to nice managers!

[MultiFormat Shooter]

Second shot with the same camera. Here's to nice managers!

Another great one, thanks! DC-3s really are neat planes...and they first flew about 80 years ago!

[Jerry Bodine]

Another great one, thanks! DC-3s really are neat planes...and they first flew about 80 years ago!

DC-3, a workhorse plane. When I worked on the XB-70 program for 5 yrs in the early 60s, the company used DC-3s to shuttle employees to/from Palmdale, CA where it was being built. It was a tough pill to swallow though when, at my first AA Yosemite workshop in June '66, the newspapers arrived with headlines announcing the XB-70 midair. Talk about a real bummer!

[jp]

And one more with the b17:



https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4395/36400951233_6559ba534b_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/XsCoBt)
img903 (https://flic.kr/p/XsCoBt) by Jason Philbrook (https://www.flickr.com/photos/13759696@N02/), on Flickr


Apparently the absurdly big tail is useful at keeping the plane flying straight if it loses engines on one side, or it gets full of holes.

[EdSawyer]

XB-70, what a cool plane! amazing that you got to work on it Jerry. It was a real tragedy about the crash. someday I hope to see the surviving one at WP.

[Jerry Bodine]

Ed, this plane was THE MOST exciting time of my entire career. If you do make it to the Air Force Museum to see it, you should be aware that the plane was moved to the new 4th building a couple of yrs ago. My assignment in the structural part of the design was the crew compartment and ejection system as well as the electronics bay just aft of the cockpit. Here's an interactive video of the cockpit from the pilot's position, particularly enjoyable to anyone who's really into buttons/gauges/instruments.

http://www.nmusafvirtualtour.com/cockpits/RD_tour/RD-9.html

If you know what/where to look, you can make out the INNER windshield that is subjected to 11 psi cabin pressure (tested to 22 psi) as well as the OUTER windshield (subjected to aero pressure only) that is movable from landing/takeoff position (for better visibility) to streamlined position for high speed flight. Googling "xb-70" will bring up a flood of info on this plane. Good video of plane in flight:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/flight/a18147/rare-air-force-xb70-supersonic-bomber/

One of my friends is acquainted with a retired Air Force pilot who said he never would have retired so soon if he could've flown that plane.

[bloodhoundbob]

I agree with Fr. Mark; the DC-3 is certainly the greatest airplane ever to fly. And that's fine photograph of an unusually clean radial engine, too.

A great plane, indeed. I remember seeing them fly commercially out of Lambert Field in St Louis as a child, and years later seeing an AC-47 aka Puff The Magic Dragon doing its thing one evening just outside the airbase in Nha Trang, Vietnam. I did fly once in an Air America C-46, but never did get to fly in a DC-3 or C-47.

[rrunnertexas]

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5186/29387289593_c65d7fee61_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/LLRxmM)Kodak Bullet of 1896 Vintage Airplanes Small (https://flic.kr/p/LLRxmM) by rrunnertexas (https://www.flickr.com/photos/18736302@N03/), on Flickr

Kodak Bullet no 4, 1896 model.

[fj55mike]

I recently attended a fly-in at the Kingsbury Aerodrome near Seguin, TX with my 8x10 and 4x5. As I was taking a picture of this airplane, a guy comes up to me and asks me if i can still take pictures with that camera, so I snarkily responded with "No, I just like setting it up and looking through it." The guy laughs and starts telling his buddies the joke. He then says he's the owner of the airplane and would like a copy of the photo, and I jokingly tell him I'll trade him a nice Silver gelatin print for a ride in his airplane. Amazingly, he agreed and 5 minutes later we were doing aerobatics and I was trying not to throw up in his airplane. I definitely got the better end of the bargain, but hopefully he likes his print.

Deardorff V8
12" Commercial Ektar @ f/22
HP5+ in Pyrocat HD 1+1+100
V700 Scan

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4525/24612953718_ba308ab0ee_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DuXPD1)
North American SNJ-5 (https://flic.kr/p/DuXPD1) by Mike Boudreaux (https://www.flickr.com/photos/wetpossum/), on Flickr

[David Schaller]

I'm sure he will Mike. Nice work.

[chassis]

I recently attended a fly-in at the Kingsbury Aerodrome near Seguin, TX with my 8x10 and 4x5. As I was taking a picture of this airplane, a guy comes up to me and asks me if i can still take pictures with that camera, so I snarkily responded with "No, I just like setting it up and looking through it." The guy laughs and starts telling his buddies the joke. He then says he's the owner of the airplane and would like a copy of the photo, and I jokingly tell him I'll trade him a nice Silver gelatin print for a ride in his airplane. Amazingly, he agreed and 5 minutes later we were doing aerobatics and I was trying not to throw up in his airplane. I definitely got the better end of the bargain, but hopefully he likes his print.

Deardorff V8
12" Commercial Ektar @ f/22
HP5+ in Pyrocat HD 1+1+100
V700 Scan

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4525/24612953718_ba308ab0ee_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DuXPD1)
North American SNJ-5 (https://flic.kr/p/DuXPD1) by Mike Boudreaux (https://www.flickr.com/photos/wetpossum/), on Flickr


Mike, that is a great image and great story. Love the rendering of the aircraft's mirror finish.

[fj55mike]

Thanks for the comments. Here's one more from that day. I'm really impressed with the commercial Ektar lens, super sharp but great character!

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4586/38553344711_3907430095_b.jpg
(https://flic.kr/p/21JPYcR)North American SNJ on 8x10 (https://flic.kr/p/21JPYcR) by Mike Boudreaux (https://www.flickr.com/photos/wetpossum/), on Flickr

[Rapidrob]

In the 80's I lived close to BWI airport outside of Baltimore,MD. Way before any security they have today at airports I was allowed to stand close to the end of the runway,out of line with the aircraft. At that time I was experimenting with Lithograph film and filters to alter what light the film "saw" in 4x5 and pushing the heck out of the slow ASA and then using heated developer to articulate the films grain. The negative was very dense and took almost a full minute exposure in order to get a good print.
The airplane was from the long gone Allegheny Airlines. A local "puddle jumper" coming in from New York.
172400

[MultiFormat Shooter]

In the 80's I lived close to BWI airport outside of Baltimore, MD....

A de Havilland Dash 7, wow, it's been a long time since I've seen one of those! Even the Dash 8 traffic is drying-up at BWI. There is actually a nice park at the end of runway 33L, called the Thomas A. Dixon Jr. Aircraft Observation Area (http://www.aacounty.org/locations-and-directions/bwi-trail), where you can still take photos of planes. I have lots of 35mm slides from there and few 4x5 transparencies. But I don't have any scans of the 4x5's to post.

[Reinhold Schable]

P-40 Warhawk.

Negative # ACAQ 218. "Flying Tiger. Evergreen Flying Field, Vancouver, WA
Camera: RB67, 180mm lens, FP4+ film. (scanned). A 60 year old warbird still flying.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4519/24600480848_6ecabb2cb9_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DtRTTw)P-40 Warhawk (https://flic.kr/p/DtRTTw) by Reinhold S. (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154287991@N05/), on Flickr


Reinhold
www.re-inventedPhotoEquip.com
www.classicBWphoto.com

[EdSawyer]

Gotta love the P40, that mouth always looks so bad-ass!

[Reinhold Schable]

Here's another old timer...

Douglas DC-3 in Eastern Airlines dress.
At Pearson Field (Fort Vancouver Nat'l. Historic site), Vancouver, Washington.
Among the most reliable airplanes ever made, DC-3s continue to fly daily in active service as of April 2017, more than eighty years after the type's first flight in 1935.

# ACAQ 200. Camera: 8x20" KB Canham, 780mm Apo Ronar lens, YG filter on 8x20" Ilford HP5 film.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4581/27127950479_0500a8da5e_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/HkcQy8). . DC-3. Vancouver, Washington (https://flic.kr/p/HkcQy8) by Reinhold S. (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154287991@N05/), on Flickr

Reinhold
www.classicBWphoto.com

[consummate_fritterer]

Reinhold... nice use of the wide format.

[Reinhold Schable]

An odd way to use wide format;

When a torpedo bomber flew into Vancouver USA I happened to have my Canham 8x20 on hand, sooo...
Here's a different way to use a ULF on a Grumman TBM "Avenger"...

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4579/38968609401_8b9484dcd1_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/22nwiVT). . Grumman "Avenger". Vancouver, WA (https://flic.kr/p/22nwiVT) by Reinhold S. (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154287991@N05/), on Flickr

Reinhold
www.classicBWphoto.com

[Reinhold Schable]

A Canham 8x20 and a Mustang are a pretty good fit...

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4738/25339515948_1d06abf9bb_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/EBaDh1). . P-51d Mustang. Vancouver, WA (https://flic.kr/p/EBaDh1) by Reinhold S. (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154287991@N05/), on Flickr

"Elegantly simple, and simply elegant", the Mustang was(is) one of the most graceful and beautiful of airplanes.
After the war ended, my brother and I tried to pool our pennies and buy one for a close-out price of $1500 from the government...

Negative # ACAQ 428. KB Canham 8x20" camera. 600mm lens, YG filter, Ilford FP4 film

Reinhold
www.classicBWphoto.com

[Tin Can]

Last Fall I got a ride in a Beech C45. All I have is a cabin video.

The Mustang ride was too expensive for me.

Next time I want the Steerman open cockpit biplane.

I won’t fly commercial. Too scary...

[Reinhold Schable]

Douglas DC-3
Restored in Eastern Airlines "The Great Silver Fleet" dress and logo (ca, 1939-1941). Vancouver, Washington

The DC-3 revolutionized air transport in the 1930s and 1940s.
Its lasting effect on the airline industry makes it one of the most significant transport aircraft ever produced.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7828/46336454925_c7dadb9189_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2dAArHg). . Eastern Airlines DC-3. Vancouver, Washington (https://flic.kr/p/2dAArHg) by Reinhold S. (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154287991@N05/), on Flickr

Neg# ACAQ 423. KB Canham 8x20" camera, 780mm, Yg filter, HP5 film. 2004

More planes here... https://www.flickr.com/photos/154287991@N05/albums/72157662910688898

Reinhold

[Tin Can]

I once flew in a commercial DC-3 from the airport 2 miles away.

I was in a hurry and asked for the first plane to Chicago. Got on the flight and soon realized it was hopping from airport to airport 4 times until O'Hare.

Really glad I was on the DC3 for the experience, but I soon learned I could drive the 360 miles faster in my VW bug, which I did once in 4 hours 45 minutes on back roads.

Saw on TV that a Tri Motor is still in use for rides. The corrugated aluminum Henry Ford aircraft.

It has huge windows. I will fly on one asap.

[Bob Salomon]

I once flew in a commercial DC-3 from the airport 2 miles away.

I was in a hurry and asked for the first plane to Chicago. Got on the flight and soon realized it was hopping from airport to airport 4 times until O'Hare.

Really glad I was on the DC3 for the experience, but I soon learned I could drive the 360 miles faster in my VW bug, which I did once in 4 hours 45 minutes on back roads.

Saw on TV that a Tri Motor is still in use for rides. The corrugated aluminum Henry Ford aircraft.

It has huge windows. I will fly on one asap.

There is still at least one or two German trimotor planes flying.

When I was with EPOI I had to fly from NYC to Hyannis Port for a show. For the show I was carrying a lot of Broncolor strobes, an Ademco press and some Sinar cameras. When I made the reservation the agent told me that the flight was on a DC3 and it was leaving from the Marine Air Terminal next to LGA.
It was a very rainy day and there were no skycaps at the terminal, only flat, wood carts to carry your baggage in, but at the edge of the parking lot they had installed bollards that stopped the carts from being wheeled to your car! So after several trips in the rain between the car and the bollards I loaded the cart and wheeled it in.
Finally got on the plane and we took off. Very heavy head winds made it a several hour flight. After a couple of hours I walked downhill from my seat to the lavatory where a stewardess was standing, shaking her head and stating that it was out of order. But that we should be landing in a couple of hours!
So I now had to walk uphill back to my seat and squirm for another two hours!

What a trip! Fortunately for the return trip there was jet service and they would upgrade you to first class for $2.00! I spent the extra money, bordered the flight to find that there were only two passangers. The flight attendants told us to sit in the same row in the front of the plane “to balance the load”! Then they gave us all of the small bottles of liquor on board, all the decks of cards and all of their souvenir wings.

We asked them why and they told us this was the final flight for this route and they just want less inventory to count.

They asked us if there was anything else they could do and we insisted that they give us the pretakeoff safety talk as they never did that prior to our taking off. So all three stewardesses gathered around our seats and showed us what to do with the seatbelt, the air masks and showed us the exits.

Last time I flew the DC3! I

[Vaughn]

I flew on a commercial DC3 in the late 60's when I was in the Boy Scouts. Long Beach, CA to Catalina Island, 22 miles across the sea. Glad I can say I flew in one!

[Jac@stafford.net]

The Gooney Bird was a favorite of mine. It could almost fly itself.

[Pieter]

I flew in a DC-3 to Tikal, in Guatemala in the early 70's. I was working as an assistant on a travelogue about Guatemala. The plane smelled of gas fumes, the seats were not much more than slings, and we convinced the pilot to pull some tight banked turns over the ruins so we could get aerial shots before we landed. I learned that Andrea Frank, Robert Frank's daughter died a few years later in a plane crash in Tikal. Sent chills up my spine.

[Tin Can]

I looked up Ford Tri Motors and see the EAA is flying 2 all over the USA. June 20 - June 23, 2019 | Burlington, IA $72 (https://www.eaa.org/shop/Flights/FlyTheFord.aspx) is the closest. I may get there.

I have been to the EAA Oshkosh event a few times,

Saw the Concorde fly in there. My parents flew it to EU a long time ago. I still have their souvenir can opener in pic below.

Have you heard about the jet stream making the LA to NYC flight time way faster?

I used to fly deadhead X-Mas day flights from west coast to O'Hare.

Last one was fantastic. The stewardess gave me free drinks and we all sang Christmas songs. Almost nobody on the plane.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7836/46536341674_d46044a696_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2dUfV5w)Concorde Bottle Opener Air France (https://flic.kr/p/2dUfV5w) by TIN CAN COLLEGE (https://www.flickr.com/photos/tincancollege/), on Flickr

[consummate_fritterer]

Douglas DC-3
Restored in Eastern Airlines "The Great Silver Fleet" dress and logo (ca, 1939-1941). Vancouver, Washington

The DC-3 revolutionized air transport in the 1930s and 1940s.
Its lasting effect on the airline industry makes it one of the most significant transport aircraft ever produced.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7828/46336454925_c7dadb9189_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2dAArHg). . Eastern Airlines DC-3. Vancouver, Washington (https://flic.kr/p/2dAArHg) by Reinhold S. (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154287991@N05/), on Flickr

Neg# ACAQ 423. KB Canham 8x20" camera, 780mm, Yg filter, HP5 film. 2004

More planes here... https://www.flickr.com/photos/154287991@N05/albums/72157662910688898

Reinhold

Nice image Reinhold. I think there's an issue with your scanner though (D-max in lower left quarter of the image).

[jp]

I looked up Ford Tri Motors and see the EAA is flying 2 all over the USA. June 20 - June 23, 2019 | Burlington, IA $72 (https://www.eaa.org/shop/Flights/FlyTheFord.aspx) is the closest. I may get there.


Do it... Really.

I have never been on a DC3 but I have been flown in a Ford Trimotor. Owls Head Transportation Museum used to have one and take people for rides. It had tiny wicker chairs and I could see downwards along some seams in the body at the edge of the corrugated panels. Sounds and vibration were plenty. Things changed quick in the 30's. WWII planes are light years better and the Ford Trimotor was light years ahead of 20's small planes.

I'd love to go in a DC3.

[Reinhold Schable]

Nice image Reinhold. I think there's an issue with your scanner though (D-max in lower left quarter of the image).

By golly, I think you're right.
It's been acting a bit funny the last day or so.
Many thanks.
Reinhold

[Tin Can]

I plan to. I won't fly with the crowded airlines anymore, but an old vibrating motor is music.

We will have an vintage airplane show soon here. 2017 the B-29 Superfortress, "Fifi," was here and more.


Do it... Really.

I have never been on a DC3 but I have been flown in a Ford Trimotor. Owls Head Transportation Museum used to have one and take people for rides. It had tiny wicker chairs and I could see downwards along some seams in the body at the edge of the corrugated panels. Sounds and vibration were plenty. Things changed quick in the 30's. WWII planes are light years better and the Ford Trimotor was light years ahead of 20's small planes.

I'd love to go in a DC3.

[bloodhoundbob]

Close, but no cigar for me and a DC-3. One of my roommates in basic training was DC-3 pilot for Ozark Airlines out of St Louis. In Vietnam, I flew in an Air America C-46, a cousin of the C-47. Watched a C-47 Puff The Magic Dragon do its thing across the road from Nha Trang Air Base and 5th Special Forces HQ. Terrifying sight and sounds for those targeted, no doubt. Doubt I will ever get to ride in a DC-3.

[Leszek Vogt]

No idea how many of the DC-3's are still in service. I was lucky to fly Air North (most of us referred to it as scare-north) in 1991 between Dawson City and Whitehorse, YT (job related). Actually, it was a hoot of a ride in this huge bucket of bolts....we even had a rather stocky flight attendant too. In all honesty, I can't compare to anything else that I've flown, since it was v. noisy....almost vulgar level. But, it got me from point A-B :>).

By the way, just for fun dial googly and "largest weather vane". Lots of memories from that area and AK.

Les

[Tin Can]

I see it!

I have made four human weathervanes.



No idea how many of the DC-3's are still in service. I was lucky to fly Air North (most of us referred to it as scare-north) in 1991 between Dawson City and Whitehorse, YT (job related). Actually, it was a hoot of a ride in this huge bucket of bolts....we even had a rather stocky flight attendant too. In all honesty, I can't compare to anything else that I've flown, since it was v. noisy....almost vulgar level. But, it got me from point A-B :>).

By the way, just for fun dial googly and "largest weather vane". Lots of memories from that area and AK.

Les

[EarlJam]

The Collings Foundation has posted their "Wings of Freedom" tour schedule, which starts up this month (weather permitting).

https://www.collingsfoundation.org/events/category/wings-of-freedom-tour/

I shot small format last year, my first time attending one of these events and not sure what to expect so traveled light. For reference of what's typically on the ground or in the air:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/PVi3RDm9qWbI9Ntx2

[Tin Can]

May as well add this Flying Museum.

https://commemorativeairforce.org/

I used to camp in Harlingen Texas next to a post, when they had a different name.

We visited often.

[Mark Sampson]

Provincetown-Boston Airways was the last airline to operate DC-3s in the USA. I almost took a ride in one (just for the experience) in 1988 but Martha's Vineyard-Provincetown was $120 then, and I'd have had to find my way back. Should have done it.
I have flown in a B-17 bomber, quite an experience, before they were asking $400. If I'd digitized any of my old aircraft photographs I'd post them here. I am enjoying this thread!

[Richard Wasserman]

My father served in the Army Air Corp during WWII. I took him and our 2 boys for a ride in a B-17 shortly before he died—it was definitely worth the cost. Quite an experience indeed.

[bloodhoundbob]

The CAF used to have, and may still have, a B-17, Sentimental Journey, which was manufactured at the end of the war and never saw combat. I took my son through it over 20 years ago when it made a stop at St Louis Regional Airport. I hung around to video it when we were told it would be taking off shortly enroute to Indiana. Takeoff was delayed due to weather, so we went home. Several hours later, I was awakened from a nap by the unmistakable drone of those powerful engines. It flew right over our house, but I was unable to grab the video camera before it was too late. I did see The Memphis Belle when it was a static display in downtown Memphis, but later read that it had been removed.

[Mark Sampson]

There are 10 or so flying B-17s in the USA today. Most go on tours and give rides. My father flew 32 missions in a B-17 over Europe in 1944, thus my interest. Sadly he passed long before any of the restored museum planes had been restored- he would have loved to see one again. bloodhound bob, after decades of neglect, the "Memphis Belle" has been restored and is on display at the Air Force Museum in Dayton, Ohio. It won't be a flyer, but another 17 has been restored as the "Movie Memphis Belle" (it was used in the 1990 movie). It is based in Geneseo, NY, and goes on tour regularly.

[bloodhoundbob]

There are 10 or so flying B-17s in the USA today. Most go on tours and give rides. My father flew 32 missions in a B-17 over Europe in 1944, thus my interest. Sadly he passed long before any of the restored museum planes had been restored- he would have loved to see one again. bloodhound bob, after decades of neglect, the "Memphis Belle" has been restored and is on display at the Air Force Museum in Dayton, Ohio. It won't be a flyer, but another 17 has been restored as the "Movie Memphis Belle" (it was used in the 1990 movie). It is based in Geneseo, NY, and goes on tour regularly.

Great news, Mark, as the last I had heard, the Memphis Belle was being neglected. At the same show, there was a B-24 which I took great interest in. One of my uncles was a radio operator/gunner in one and took part in the infamous Ploiesti Oil Field raid, in which 53 aircraft and 660 airmen were lost. He was 17 at the time and was never the same according to my Mom. A CAF pilot told me there were very few still flying.

[EarlJam]

My dad served in the Army Air Corps/Air Forces in WW2 as well, in a photo/darkroom unit attached to a B-17 reconnaissance squadron at RAF Alconbury. He never mentioned flying on a mission, but amongst his things were a number of 4x5 negatives of a mission in March 1944. I posted photos on Filmwasters about 18 months ago: http://www.filmwasters.com/forum/index.php?topic=9290.0

For the aircraft with visible tail numbers in the photos, I made a list of squadrons and bomb groups as I could find them; see attached. If anyone would like higher resolution scan files of any of these, PM me.

188395

[bloodhoundbob]

My dad served in the Army Air Corps/Air Forces in WW2 as well, in a photo/darkroom unit attached to a B-17 reconnaissance squadron at RAF Alconbury. He never mentioned flying on a mission, but amongst his things were a number of 4x5 negatives of a mission in March 1944. I posted photos on Filmwasters about 18 months ago: http://www.filmwasters.com/forum/index.php?topic=9290.0

For the aircraft with visible tail numbers in the photos, I made a list of squadrons and bomb groups as I could find them; see attached. If anyone would like higher resolution scan files of any of these, PM me.

188395

What a great story and great shots, Earl! Not only of the B-17, but the B-24 and P-51, among others. Nice!

[Tin Can]

Bob,

2017 at Veterans Airport rides on a P51 were available as were many warbirds. I flew in a tiny twin engine low wing trainer and cannot find my pics or in cabin video.

I sat in 'coach' 6 seats as copilot seat cost far more.

The crosswind yaw was odd to experience. Smallest aircraft I have flown in.

I think the pilot was using Beech xx on radio, however I think the plane was British from 1938 used both as trainer and shuttle for officers in WWII.


What a great story and great shots, Earl! Not only of the B-17, but the B-24 and P-51, among others. Nice!

[bloodhoundbob]

Randy, if I ever hit the lottery, a ride in a P-51 will be a must. I used to sketch WWII and Korean era allied planes while sitting in grade school classes. Maybe that explains my poor grades. I did get to sit in the top turret of a B-25 at Scott Air Force Base during a fourth grade field trip. Too cool.

[jp]

My dad served in the Army Air Corps/Air Forces in WW2 as well, in a photo/darkroom unit attached to a B-17 reconnaissance squadron at RAF Alconbury. He never mentioned flying on a mission, but amongst his things were a number of 4x5 negatives of a mission in March 1944. I posted photos on Filmwasters about 18 months ago: http://www.filmwasters.com/forum/index.php?topic=9290.0

For the aircraft with visible tail numbers in the photos, I made a list of squadrons and bomb groups as I could find them; see attached. If anyone would like higher resolution scan files of any of these, PM me.

188395

Wow! That's a cool photo post!

[rdenney]

Okay, guys, we’ve enjoyed the sidebar, but this is an image-sharing thread.

Rick “too long without images” Denney

[Reinhold Schable]

. . Stinson "Gullwing" Reliant. Oregon
Stinson SR-8A?. "Gullwing Reliant" 1936?.
Radial engine & prop detail. McMinnville, Oregon

https://live.staticflickr.com/4614/40183048722_502040e2fd_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/24dQCqS). . Stinson "Gullwing" Reliant. Oregon (https://flic.kr/p/24dQCqS) by Reinhold S. (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154287991@N05/), on Flickr

Neg# ACAQ 413. KB Canham 8x20" camera, 335mm lens, YG filter, HP5 film. 2003

More here... https://www.flickr.com/photos/154287991@N05/albums/72157690079438365/with/40183048722/

Reinhold

[germansaram]

. . Stinson "Gullwing" Reliant. Oregon

Reinhold

Wow, that's a great shot! :)

[Reinhold Schable]

. . Lockheed T-12 "Electra". 1938. Emelia Erhart Flew a T-10.
https://live.staticflickr.com/1843/42960772410_30456062bd_k.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/28sibUA). . Lockheed T-12 "Electra" (https://flic.kr/p/28sibUA) by Reinhold S. (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154287991@N05/), on Flickr

Neg# ACAQ 420, Canham 8x20" camera, 335mm lens YG filter, HP5 film. 2003

More here... https://www.flickr.com/photos/154287991@N05/albums/72157690079438365/with/42960772410/

Reinhold

[Salmo22]

My father was a photographer in the Arizona Air National Guard from 1949 to 1965. After his death, I was blessed to inherit all of his negatives from a lifetime as a professional photographer. Many of his military photographs were taken with a USAF KE-12 4x5 camera - a Graflex Speed Graphic. I am in the process of curating all his negatives and the 4x5 negatives are a joy to scan. The image below was taken with dad's KE-12 and he used Ansco Superpan Press film. He was flying in the back seat of a Lockheed T-33 Shooting Star. He often told me it was his favorite airplane for making aerial images as you had a large canopy with lots of room to maneuver. This image is part of a series of air-to-air photographs he made of his squadron (197th FIS) prior to their transitioning from F-86L Sabres to the new Lockheed F-104 Starfighter. I hope you enjoy as much as I do.


https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48022103493_54e46017f7_h.jpg

[Tin Can]

Wow!

Sharp negs and scans!


My father was a photographer in the Arizona Air National Guard from 1949 to 1965. After his death, I was blessed to inherit all of his negatives from a lifetime as a professional photographer. Many of his military photographs were taken with a USAF KE-12 4x5 camera - a Graflex Speed Graphic. I am in the process of curating all his negatives and the 4x5 negatives are a joy to scan. The image below was taken with dad's KE-12 and he used Ansco Superpan Press film. He was flying in the back seat of a Lockheed T-33 Shooting Star. He often told me it was his favorite airplane for making aerial images as you had a large canopy with lots of room to maneuver. This image is part of a series of air-to-air photographs he made of his squadron (197th FIS) prior to their transitioning from F-86L Sabres to the new Lockheed F-104 Starfighter. I hope you enjoy as much as I do.


https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48022103493_54e46017f7_h.jpg

[Corran]

I saw this on Instagram but it's great to see it much larger here! Really cool photo!

I have a KE-12 with blacked-out lens board and matching black Kodak Ektar. It would certainly be interesting to know what photos it took.

[Salmo22]

Wow!

Sharp negs and scans!


I saw this on Instagram but it's great to see it much larger here! Really cool photo!

I have a KE-12 with blacked-out lens board and matching black Kodak Ektar. It would certainly be interesting to know what photos it took.

Thanks for the kind words. Dad was a terrific photographer. I'm especially impressed with his skills shooting 4x5 hand held.

Dad took this photograph in 1950. It shows his squadron's 'Alert' pilots practicing a 'scramble' drill at Luke AFB in Glendale, AZ. Dad took good notes on this image "Ansco 4x5 Super Hy-Ortho Type V Class C Film, USAF KE-12 Camera 4x5, Rodenstock Optar 135mm F/8". I scanned the negative with my Epson V850.


https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48093223418_efc4f7e413_h.jpg

[Tin Can]

Real life: "Twelve O'Clock High"

Looks shot at Noon Full Sun.

Perfect DOF and stop action.




Thanks for the kind words. Dad was a terrific photographer. I'm especially impressed with his skills shooting 4x5 hand held.

Dad took this photograph in 1950. It shows his squadron's 'Alert' pilots practicing a 'scramble' drill at Luke AFB in Glendale, AZ. Dad took good notes on this image "Ansco 4x5 Super Hy-Ortho Type V Class C Film, USAF KE-12 Camera 4x5, Rodenstock Optar 135mm F/8". I scanned the negative with my Epson V850.


https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48093223418_efc4f7e413_h.jpg

[md-photo]

Amazing clarity in that action scene. Need to dig back in this thread, sounds very interesting.

[Danny B]

My second from Dayton Airshow 2019....
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[Salmo22]

My second from Dayton Airshow 2019....
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I like how you framed and composed this image. Excellent work sir.

[Danny B]

Thank you Salmo, you know on an airshow, there are too many people, didn't wanted to have people in my shot. had to come up with something, so I though change the perspective :)

[pepeguitarra]

My father was a photographer in the Arizona Air National Guard from 1949 to 1965. After his death, I was blessed to inherit all of his negatives from a lifetime as a professional photographer. Many of his military photographs were taken with a USAF KE-12 4x5 camera - a Graflex Speed Graphic. I am in the process of curating all his negatives and the 4x5 negatives are a joy to scan. The image below was taken with dad's KE-12 and he used Ansco Superpan Press film. He was flying in the back seat of a Lockheed T-33 Shooting Star. He often told me it was his favorite airplane for making aerial images as you had a large canopy with lots of room to maneuver. This image is part of a series of air-to-air photographs he made of his squadron (197th FIS) prior to their transitioning from F-86L Sabres to the new Lockheed F-104 Starfighter. I hope you enjoy as much as I do.


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Incredible photo. I love it.

[kenj8246]

Static shot of a Beechcraft Kansan at Lonestar Flight Museum, Ellington Field, Houston TX. Please ignore the stanchions and chains, just the way they do it here. Chamonix 45F1, expired Kodak Ektachrome 64T film.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48733195178_3c5fc0e287_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2hfon65)Lonestar Flight Museum (https://flic.kr/p/2hfon65) by Kenny Johnson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/bykenny/), on Flickr

[GoldMark]

Really impressive images from old warbirds

[Don Dudenbostel]

Don't think I've seen a Collodion image here. I did it in 2013 if I remember correctly and think it was half plate shot on black glass with an Ajax Petzval using my own formulation for the emulsion.

[tuco]

Static shot of a Beechcraft Kansan at Lonestar Flight Museum, Ellington Field, Houston TX. Please ignore the stanchions and chains, just the way they do it here. Chamonix 45F1, expired Kodak Ektachrome 64T film.


I really like the color. That Beechcraft was never photographed so good.
I went to the LeMay American Car Museum in Tacoma, WA, for some car pictures but they wouldn't let me in with a tripod. But I needed it and after a short please may I argument I turned around and went home.

[kenj8246]

Thank you. I think I would've had the same reaction.

[Steven Ruttenberg]

I need to get out to Pima Air Museum and the one at the airport on McDowell and Greenfiled in Mesa.

Excellent shots!

[Mark Sampson]

I live about five miles from the Pima Museum. It is spectacular- the third-largest air museum in the country. There are a huge number of planes outdoors- so I plan to visit with my 4x5. But not until the temps drop and the sun is lower in the sky!

[Salmo22]

Thank you. I think I would've had the same reaction.


I need to get out to Pima Air Museum and the one at the airport on McDowell and Greenfield in Mesa.

Excellent shots!

The Pima Air & Space Museum is very photographer friendly. Several times a year they host night photo shoots after normal museum hours. A terrific place to photograph a wide variety of aircraft. Randy Efros (Cole & Brett Weston colaborator) enjoys taking his LF gear and photographing at Pima - http://www.randyefros.com/portfolio_blackandwhite_2.htm

Falcon Field in Mesa is also a good place to photograph aircraft. It was originally built as an RAF training facility during WWII. Arizona is rife with public and private locations with aircraft to photograph - both vintage and abandoned.

[Corran]

Several times a year they host night photo shoots after normal museum hours.

I didn't know that. Hopefully next time I'm able to visit family in AZ will be around one of those dates. Maybe a LF meetup opportunity :).

[kenj8246]

Pima just went on my bucket list! :)

[NW2Wheeler]

If you are really into aircraft - Pima is without any doubt the best in the West.
Do some research before you go into the history of the specific aircraft on display.
There are some very interesting stories.

The B-36 (the last one built) is an absolute monster of an airplane.
Hard to imagine they could get that one off the ground with only a little over 17,000HP - go take a look, it is impressive.

At the Castle museum in Atwater, they have an RB-36 which has open Bomb Bay doors ( only 3 B-36's survive in the US).
When I walked underneath that one - I was astonished at the volume of both bays.
But when you look at the casing of a Mk17 Hydrogen Bomb sitting next to the aircraft - you understand !

[Mark Sampson]

It was still 97F in Tucson today. Next month!

[Leszek Vogt]

But it's a dry heat, Mark. :rolleyes: At least that's what I kept hearing through the years. Might stop at Pima next Spring on the way to some wild place E. of Texas....I think the night + day shoot would be superb.

Les

[Mark Sampson]

In fact the dry heat is a good thing (for a while). The low humidity means that when you find shade, it's actually a little cooler. Unlike the humid East, where when it's 95F and 95% humidity (and recently I lived for six years in Northern Virginia) there is no escape from the heat except by air-conditioning. So now that the temps are dropping and the sun is lower, I'm all in favor of life here (the dry air gives a brilliant light unlike other places, too). Let me know if you do pass this way. There's a small but active LF community in Tucson, we'll make you welcome.

[Steven Ruttenberg]

The Pima Air & Space Museum is very photographer friendly. Several times a year they host night photo shoots after normal museum hours. A terrific place to photograph a wide variety of aircraft. Randy Efros (Cole & Brett Weston colaborator) enjoys taking his LF gear and photographing at Pima - http://www.randyefros.com/portfolio_blackandwhite_2.htm

Falcon Field in Mesa is also a good place to photograph aircraft. It was originally built as an RAF training facility during WWII. Arizona is rife with public and private locations with aircraft to photograph - both vintage and abandoned.

I live 5 minutes maybe 10 from Falcon field. Unfortunately being relocated to OKC till I retire. Then back to AZ to live in Flag till I drop 50 years from now :)

[Steven Ruttenberg]

But it's a dry heat, Mark. :rolleyes: At least that's what I kept hearing through the years. Might stop at Pima next Spring on the way to some wild place E. of Texas....I think the night + day shoot would be superb.

Les

Well it has been 40% humidity here in Mesa. Above 105 it doesn't matter. It is just freakin hot!

[Roger Thoms]

I live 5 minutes maybe 10 from Falcon field. Unfortunately being relocated to OKC till I retire. Then back to AZ to live in Flag till I drop 50 years from now :)

I'm also headed to Flag as soon as I retire, and lets hope I drop sooner than 50 years from now, thinking I'll be happy if I go another 20 or 30. Already have a house there, just need to work another 5 years.

Roger

[Reinhold Schable]

... Back on track ... . . Boeing P7-17 Continental Radial engine & prop. on Boeing P7-17 (1942). McMinnville, Oregon.
https://live.staticflickr.com/1852/44771663911_21a023dcbd_k.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2bdjtRR). . Boeing P7-17 (https://flic.kr/p/2bdjtRR) by Reinhold S. (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154287991@N05/), on Flickr. . Neg# ACAQ 416, Cabhan 8x20" camera, 335mm lens, YG filter, HP5 film. 2004 (cropped to 1:2 format

Reinhold

[rrunnertexas]

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49472992243_5599ec1605_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2inL1YT)Korona DC-3 Propeller (https://flic.kr/p/2inL1YT) by rrunnertexas (https://www.flickr.com/photos/18736302@N03/), on Flickr

Korona 8 x 10, B&L Tessar lens with Arista EDU 100.

[rrunnertexas]

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B&L Tessar lens

[Eric Woodbury]

Good job 'Texas'

[Chauncey Walden]

That's sure nice having that door so you can pop out right into the propeller! There are enough roof antennas on that Gooney. Must have been a radioman training plane or something.

[Dugan]

I may be wrong, but I think those are pitot tubes.

[Paul Coy]

I may be wrong, but I think those are pitot tubes.

They are antennas for sure, no pitot tubes there.

[Reinhold Schable]

. . Mini Guppy. Tillamook, OR
https://live.staticflickr.com/4728/39267181871_368a3ffc77_k.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/22PUz86). . Mini Guppy. Tillamook, OR (https://flic.kr/p/22PUz86) by Reinhold S. (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154287991@N05/), on Flickr. . Neg # ACAQ 430. KB Canham 8x20” camera, 600mm lens, YG filter HP5 film

[rrunnertexas]

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Gundlach 8 x 10 - Negative was not exposed properly, so after scanning, this Topaz blueprint filter was applied. Certainly a gritty, different look. Not for all tastes, but interesting.

[scheinfluger_77]

Still cool though.

[barnacle]

I paid a visit to the de Havilland Museum at Hatfield (just north of London, for those in the UK) with a new Chroma yesterday, to see how things went. It's always fun with a new camera - these are the first images taken through it - but an aircraft museum has an awful lot of volunteers who are equally as enthusiastic about this sort of camera as I was about the planes...

Two indoor images - a DH98 Mosquito and a somewhat disassembled DH 112 Sea Venom - twenty and forty second exposures in both cases; two outdoor images both of a DH110 Sea Vixen, both at 1/8 second - F45 in all cases, on Fomapan 100 (but metered at 64ASA). Developed in R09, nine minutes at 50:1. The lens is a Rodenstock-Sironar f5.6 150mm. The images are JPG reductions of 16-bit tiffs from an Epson 4870 Photo, with the default settings from XSANE.

I'll have a comment or two on the camera in the 'show us yer camera thread'.

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I note that there is an odd marking on all sides of the negatives. I don't think this is optical; I suspect it's because the unexposed film has been in the holders for about ten months (I was quite surprised to find the holders loaded! )

Neil

[Salmo22]

Sky Harbor Airport - Phoenix, Arizona. The year is 1967 and dad was doing promotional photography for Bonanza Air Lines. According to dad’s notes, they offered helicopter shuttle service to busy executives. Next to the passenger door on the Fairchild F 27A, was a prominent sign that said “radar equipped“. While I’ll find the 4x5 negative someday, this is a scan of a nearly 55-year-old 8x10 silver gelatin print that was stacked in a box with 50+ other prints. It will never cease to amaze me how durable these prints are. Dad made this photograph with his trusty Linhof Technika IV. Not sure on the lens.

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[Roger Thoms]

Jeff, that's a real gem, hope the negative turns up.

Roger

[Graham Patterson]

Looks like a still from The Man From U.N.C.L.E., which would be in period. Those were the days - the only thing keeping people away from the planes was a low wall and manual gate 8-)

[JeRuFo]

That's great. It's so period correct it almost looks like a retro movie.

[tuco]

Cool post Jeff.