Hasselgraphic or Speedblad?

[Jeremy Moore]

Where's Frank - he's good at giving ridiculous names to ridiculous things?

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g10/jeremydmoore/1304966105351_edit0.jpg

[anglophone1]

Wot!
Can't decide if I love it or hate it..........

[sully75]

erm? Can you cover the film with that?

[BrianShaw]

Might be good for use with a roll film back. But where's teh trigger for the shutter? And how does one re-cock the shutter??

[jnantz]

speedtasticgraphablad

thats sweet!

( bulb and curtain )

[Frank Petronio]

You probably get mad when someone accidentally releases the lens's leaf shutter because then you have to stick a screwdriver in from the rear to recock the shutter. Bless that rear lens element ;-)

I don't have a name for it, it's beyond mere words.

[BarryS]

That's an F series lens--so no shutter to worry about. The image circle of the 110mm f/2 is about 80mm.

[Frank Petronio]

Oh nice lens!

Show us some pix and tell us how you're using it.

[Bob Salomon]

Might be good for use with a roll film back. But where's teh trigger for the shutter? And how does one re-cock the shutter??

That is not a lens from a 500. That is a 200/2000 series lens without a shutter. That is probably why it ios on the Speed.

[Jeremy Moore]

That's an F series lens--so no shutter to worry about. The image circle of the 110mm f/2 is about 80mm.

It covers a blurry ~4" circle/square.

I'm also frankencamera-ing a wista monorail into a handheld 4x5 so once I get that guy done I'll shoot with the Grasselflex.

[Jeremy Moore]

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g10/jeremydmoore/2011_ariel_4x5_001.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g10/jeremydmoore/2011_ariel_4x5_004.jpg

ilford fp4 in the grasselflex

[Ramiro Elena]

I likes.

[Frank Petronio]

Yes... but why not just shoot it on a blad body and have SLR viewing and all? I thought it was that particularly nice lens that was expensive, not the bodies/backs anymore.

A 2003 body and 110/2 is one of those classic combinations....

[Jeremy Moore]

Yes... but why not just shoot it on a blad body and have SLR viewing and all? I thought it was that particularly nice lens that was expensive, not the bodies/backs anymore.

A 2003 body and 110/2 is one of those classic combinations....

I can't look through an SLR and focus a camera due to eye problems and I can't look down to use a waistlevel finder because of issues with my neck/brain stem. I'm going to modify the cam and it will be a 110 f/2 coupled rangefinder. And when I shoot using the ground glass it's in front of me and not down.

There are other reasons, too, like closer macro, bigger film real estate (kinda like shooting a petzval on a too big plate, it has a look), but the biggest reason for me is I can use it like this. These were the first "real" photographs I've made in over a year!

[Bob Salomon]

I can't look through an SLR and focus a camera due to eye problems and I can't look down to use a waistlevel finder because of issues with my neck/brain stem. I'm going to modify the cam and it will be a 110 f/2 coupled rangefinder. And when I shoot using the ground glass it's in front of me and not down.

There are other reasons, too, like closer macro, bigger film real estate (kinda like shooting a petzval on a too big plate, it has a look), but the biggest reason for me is I can use it like this. These were the first "real" photographs I've made in over a year!

Why not get the Hasselblad ground glass adapter and focus straight through, like using the gg on a 45?

[Kerik Kouklis]

Nice work, Jeremy. Both the camera and the images. Keep on keepin' on my friend.

[Jeremy Moore]

Why not get the Hasselblad ground glass adapter and focus straight through, like using the gg on a 45?

I didn't know about that - though I imagine it is a lot slower/more fussy beginning to end to:

compose, focus, remove adapter, load 120 magazine back onto camera, shoot - as opposed to how quickly i can slap a grafmatic or double-sided holder in there.

This thing looks neat, too: http://cgi.ebay.com/Moveable-Adapter-F-Hasselblad-V-Linhof-Sinar-4x5-W88-/280659012719?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item415894ac6f#ht_1706wt_1034

I have a 2000FCM, but a friend loaded a roll of 120 film in it backwards and ripped the shutter out. I have neither the money to replace or repair it right now or buy anything at all so I'm just making do with what I have.

[Jeremy Moore]

Nice work, Jeremy. Both the camera and the images. Keep on keepin' on my friend.

Thanks, Kerik!

[msk2193]

Jeremy, great photos. Beautiful model.

[jnantz]

looking forward to the next installment jeremy !

[Struan Gray]

I like it Jeremy, and the results.

Those digital Hasselblad back adapters don't have any way to wind the film, and some (most) don't let you use the darkslide either. Rollfilm backs make more sense if you want smaller film - but where's the fun in that?

As to names, 'to flex' in Swedish would be 'böja' (the 'j' sounds like a 'y' in English) or 'kröka'. Hasselböj seems about right, if only because most English speakers would read it as 'Hasselbodge'.

[Dan Fromm]

Um, er, ah, I've read the thread, looked at the images. As far as I can tell this is about a lens in barrel mounted on a Speed Graphic.

What is special about putting a lens in barrel on a Speed? Its been done many times before.

[Struan Gray]

Shouldn't there be a 'Pesky Kids!' in there somewhere?

[Dan Fromm]

Struan, how about nattering nabobs of negativism?

[Struan Gray]

Tainted source :-)

My favourite lens among all my cameras is a 150 f2.8 F for the Hasselblad 2000-series. Morphic resonance makes me favourably disposed towards Jeremy's tinkering. I'd love a 110 f2 for indoor work, but outdoors I can get very similar effects with the 150 by backing up a bit so the price seems daft - all the other F lenses have been turned into bargains by the digtal revolution, but not the 110 mm.

[Dan Fromm]

Spiral? Tainted? I'm not sure. Bill Safire wrote it, Spiral delivered it. Bill was somewhat of a rightwing head case but was respected by many not of that persuasion.

And I'm a little aged to call a kid. I'm retiring, last day as an employee is 5/31.

Until I gave up on it because of weight my favorite normal lens on my 2x3 Speed was a 4"/2.0 TTH in barrel. Nice lens but from f/5.6 down a modern plasmat type will be at least as good, much lighter, and in shutter. One of the dark secrets of Pacemaker Speed Graphics is that their lowest timed shutter speed is 1/30.

[domaz]

Spi One of the dark secrets of Pacemaker Speed Graphics is that their lowest timed shutter speed is 1/30.

But if nothing moves you can fire it at 1/30 multiple times to get 1/15 or 1/8 equivalent etc.. Not saying I have been successful doing this but it does work in theory.

[rdenney]

My favourite lens among all my cameras is a 150 f2.8 F for the Hasselblad 2000-series. Morphic resonance makes me favourably disposed towards Jeremy's tinkering. I'd love a 110 f2 for indoor work, but outdoors I can get very similar effects with the 150 by backing up a bit so the price seems daft - all the other F lenses have been turned into bargains by the digtal revolution, but not the 110 mm.

I don't know what "morphic resonance" means, but I intend to use that term without attribution. Sorry. It's a good phrase for making a point without the receiver of that point actually knowing what point was made, and that's too good a tool not to steal.

My favorite lens for people pictures is an ex-commie CZJ 180mm/2.8 Sonnar. It was interesting enough that some have modified these for focal-plane-shutter Hasselblads, Pentax 6x7's, and a range of other cameras. I adapt mine to a Pentax 645, or use it on its native Pentacon Six, Exakta 66, or Kiev. Putting it on a Speed Graphic is not without its appeal, that is for sure. But it's so damn heavy that I got a feeling the Speed's front standard will be applying quite a bit of unintended downward tilt.

The relatively fast slow shutter speed of the Speed's rear shutter seems not too limiting at f/2 or f/2.8. I have shuttered lenses that can do small apertures, where the special nature of the Sonnar is no longer obvious.

Rick "who bought a Speed instead of a Crown just for that narrow and unlikely purpose" Denney

[Jeremy Moore]

My favorite lens for people pictures is an ex-commie CZJ 180mm/2.8 Sonnar. It was interesting enough that some have modified these for focal-plane-shutter Hasselblads, Pentax 6x7's, and a range of other cameras. I adapt mine to a Pentax 645, or use it on its native Pentacon Six, Exakta 66, or Kiev. Putting it on a Speed Graphic is not without its appeal, that is for sure. But it's so damn heavy that I got a feeling the Speed's front standard will be applying quite a bit of unintended downward tilt.


That does sound like a fun one! It's really easy to make a wedge for a heavier lens.

I was thinking the Pentax 6x7 165mm f/2.8 looked like a really fun one, too.

[Struan Gray]

'Morphic Resonance' does have an established meaning. Use it with an air of approval and you slide gently into New Age territory. It's a nice example of something that is scientifically wrong, yet conceptually useful.

I'm less interested in my 150 mm F lens at smaller apertures. It has the odd property that around f11 it reduces the number of sides on the aperture polygon to five. The Bokeh gets correspondingly worse. I'm pretty sure the 110 mm f2 has the same wide-bore aperture mechanism.

For LF use, the real question is how fast you tire of the tunnel vision look. I like it (I fell in love with an angel in a school-of-Botticelli tondo as an impressionable teenager) but not everyone does.

[Brian Ellis]

Presumably designed to make circular photographs? If so that's not necessarily so ridiculous. A friend of mine had something similar and did some very interesting things with it.

[rdenney]

'Morphic Resonance' does have an established meaning.

That's a darn shame. Ruins it.

Rick "pretty sure, however, that he doesn't now anybody who knows what it means" Denney