report: Tonopah Temptation Workshop May 2011

[eddie]

hey all,

i was at the Tonopah temptation workshop (http://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/showthread.php?t=69151) (and am still in tonopah!). it was awesome! "you" all should have been here.

we got to shoot some of the best places in central NV AND got to play with Jim's secret lenses. we even met the head "little green man", so stay tuned for more goodies from the little green men!

we all learned a great deal and had a wonderful time. thanks to Jim and Per for hosting the event. thanks to all the land owners and businesses for allowing us to "run a-muck" in and around tonopah. it was great. thanks to glen for all the laughs.....i will never be able to get the " little arms and legs" flailing about! ;) i have not laughed so hard in a long time. monday night at the "club house" drinking tequila was wonderful....from what i can remember......thanks guys!

i/we will be posting videos and prints from the event. please stop back in and have a look....most are wonderful images. anyone who missed this year be ready to sign up again next year. it was a blast. i gave a wet plate demo/workshop and will be posting images as soon as i get them scanned. welcome to the black paws club to all that participated.

until we can get more posted i will leave you with a few videos......more to come soon.

jim's video at f6.3! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlmIM5700wE&feature=player_detailpage) :eek:

great weather. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X28YXomMU1s)..after everyone went home....har har har.

more video and photos when i get out of tonopah and get some fast internet....dial up sucks! see more (lots more ) of hugo zhang here. (http://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=55450&d=1304814954)

eddie

[Oren Grad]

jim's video at f6.3! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlmIM5700wE&feature=player_detailpage) :eek:

Forget the Verito... :p ...that's a 7x11 Eastman! :)

[Jim Graves]

That Eddie actually made it to Tonopah after flying into Las Vegas and getting to shoot machine guns there is a testament to his dedication to photography (and Margarita mixing.) Now we'll see if he makes it back to NY.

My thumb and fore-finger are still black ... thanks to Eddie's "hands-on" wet plate demonstration ... and my lips are still numb from the Tonopah drink-of-the-week ... the "Dead Ladin" ... shot of vodka, cranberry juice, and two Everclear cherries (maraschino cherries soaked in Everclear for a week.)

But, the best thing ... I've got a ton of negatives to develop this week ... thanks to Jim and Per and my confusion about where I was supposed to be each morning. I'm looking forward to seeing the stills and videos (and my negatives.)

[eddie]

still in tonopah!

here are the 1st couple of images that i developed. they are from belmont. i used a P&S 15 inch semi achromat (thanks jim!). jim was shooting his 711 and a 16 P&S as well.

eddie

[eddie]

still in tonopah....:p

here area few of the guys that attended the wet plate "workshop". most all were done by the attendees themselves. a great group for sure.

all shots were 5x7 black aluminum.

per
mike
al
steve

[eddie]

two more black aluminum.

randy and ash

[Michael Clark]

Those are great Eddy,I never looked better!!

Mike

[ghostcount]

Holy cow! My shot of Steve on WP came out nice.Thanks Eddy for the collodion tutorial and images of "Turtle" Glen with the waiter in my head.

BTW, I left my sun glasses in Belmont - do they consider that littering?

Good times!

[eddie]

still in tonopah....:eek:

i guess no one else made any pics.....hello? beuler?

hyperion at the newest secret spot.

eddie

[Jim Graves]

Window and Cycle full size ... other two cropped. All adjusted in Levels in Photoshop. #1 & 3 from same negative (5x7, 210 Commerical Ektar) taken in Goldfield ... #2 at Tonopah Mining Park (5x7, same lens)

[ghostcount]

Great shots Jim!

Eddie, where are those cloud shots?

Ugh... I'm back at work and already wishing to be home to develop film.

[eddie]

Eddie, where are those cloud shots?

.

U missed them! No show for you.....:)

[Jim Graves]

A few more shots: #1 Night shot of derrick ... long exposure in wind, so a little fuzzy, # 2,3, & 4 are 4x5 pinholes in Goldfield.

[Jim Galli]

Awesome stuff Jim. Love the pinholes. All my negs have pinholes.

Here's the shot of Eddie I did with the 24" Ed. Liesegang branded Euryscop;


http://tonopahpictures.0catch.com/2011Workshop/eddie_2.jpg

A very sweet lens. Sour subject.

Keep 'em comin. I've got a bunch to get scanned and posted.

[Jim Graves]

Thanks, Jim ... very serious looking Eddie pic ... had you just quoted him a price on the Euryscop?

I did apparently leave about five 8x10 holders somewhere in Tonopah ... all taken the first day at the Mining Park ... so if any participants find some extra holders in their trunk when they get home, let me know.

[Jim Galli]

Thanks, Jim ... very serious looking Eddie pic ... had you just quoted him a price on the Euryscop?

No, if I had done that, the bird would be flying.......:D:D

[eddie]

A very sweet lens. Sour subject.



bite me! :)


so if any participants find some extra holders in their trunk when they get home, let me know.

ask galli where his extension rail is......jim graves had a bunch of wooden camera parts....ask him! why is everyone asking me?


No, if I had done that, the bird would be flying.......:D:D

it is flying, cant you see it?

keep em coming fellas.....

[eddie]

A very sweet lens.

too sharp for me! i am looking for softer stuff....you know the stuff galli is afraid to shoot.....see this video......seems like galli is shooting f6.3 or f8 at the widest.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlmIM5700wE&NR=1

eddie

[ghostcount]

... very serious looking Eddie pic ...

Maybe it was before Glen got drunk.

[Jim Graves]

Here're three more ... # 1 is a softie for Eddie ... a wide open 14 1/2" Verito of the Window/curtains/cycle in Goldfield and, #2 & 3 are sharp 8x10s shot with a 360mm APO Ronar:

[madmax12]

Awesome stuff Jim. Love the pinholes. All my negs have pinholes.

Here's the shot of Eddie I did with the 24" Ed. Liesegang branded Euryscop;


http://tonopahpictures.0catch.com/2011Workshop/eddie_2.jpg

A very sweet lens. Sour subject.

Keep 'em comin. I've got a bunch to get scanned and posted.

He did not look that serious the whole time we were there . Trying to have that NY look now I have two things to grin about .

[Jim Galli]

He did not look that serious the whole time we were there . Trying to have that NY look now I have two things to grin about .

Anybody who sees this photo will know immediately that Eddie is the sophisticated scholarly type. A sage among sage brush.

[Tri Tran]

Here're three more ... # 1 is a softie for Eddie ... a wide open 14 1/2" Verito of the Window/curtains/cycle in Goldfield and, #2 & 3 are sharp 8x10s shot with a 360mm APO Ronar:

Jim,
I like the first soft one, it's quite different from the sharp one. It's definitely has the mood!You are the most efficient here. I realize there is a lot of work behind the scene after the workshop.
Eddie, nice to have you here in Tonopah for showing the wet plate process and good luck to everyone with the neg processing.

[Michael Clark]

Eddy's a good arm wrestler too,if that is part of being a sophisticated sage brush he has top honors.

mike

[Asher Kelman]

still in tonopah....:p

here area few of the guys that attended the wet plate "workshop". most all were done by the attendees themselves. a great group for sure.

all shots were 5x7 black aluminum.

per
mike
al
steve

I especially like this one of Per

http://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=55483&d=1304887853

What a great job! Thanks so much for letting us in on your secrets. This was so impressive. I'd love to see the results of the negative with greater exposure!

Asher

[Jim Graves]

This is always the way ... this is the pinhole shot I was holding out the most hope for ... but with shooting into the sun and my relative inexperience with my 4x5 pinhole ........ well I almost saved this in Photoshop but could never print it in silver ... guess I'm committed to coming back next year to re-shoot it:

[Jim Galli]

This is always the way ... this is the pinhole shot I was holding out the most hope for ... but with shooting into the sun and my relative inexperience with my 4x5 pinhole ........ well I almost saved this in Photoshop but could never print it in silver ... guess I'm committed to coming back next year to re-shoot it:

Most welcome any time ;) It is an excellent 'idea' image.

[eddie]

hey all,

here are some (http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1005384) quick and dirty i phone snaps of the workshop.

here is another funny video. please keep checking my youtube videos as i will be adding more as i go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snJKsjA4Dx8

just got the best video uploaded. 2:42 is the best part IMO:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICLG3HCDlhk

group photo of day one.

eddie

[MercuryGlen]

Ah, geez. I just joined & I gotta see this in print? whatever happened to "whatever happens in Tonopah, stays in Tonopah"??? thanks for the fun guys. Loved the scenery & the fun of meeting some of you smart-asses. hopefully will be back next year w/ 4x5 in hand. I did come home w/ 20 rolls of film, so time to develop. :p

[Hugo Zhang]

I will develop my first batch of negatives tonight and can't wait to see them. What a great time I had with everyone!

[williamtheis]

had a great time guys! not done with Tonapah so I'll be back
where is everyone posting images? here or at APUG?

[Jim Galli]

(also posted at the Group Discussion (http://www.apug.org/forums/groups/tonopah-nevada-d1195-2011-blowout.html) at APUG)

The May 2011 workshop is complete and most of us survived.

Each year the workshop takes on a life of it's own. This dynamic comes from the synergy of the wildly varied personalities involved. Wild is a good word here I think.

Workshop is a term loosely applied on these gatherings. We have to call it that, because, if we didn't you wouldn't send us money and come. But if you've been to other tightly structured workshops in the past, it soon occurs that this one is going to be different. However, once you get the hang of what we're doing, I think almost everybody came up to me and said "you're not charging enough." That's OK, and I'd far rather hear that than the opposite!

What went well:
This year we rented a large room to gather in for portfolio reviews........and drunken debauchery. The reviews were the best ever. Nothing helps your vision better than looking through other peoples eyes. I was inspired and challenged.

Instruction is largely one on one. I tried hard to make rounds, talk to folks and see where they were at and what they had come to try to learn. Per does this much better than I do so hopefully no one went home without getting something of what they came to acquire.

What we need to do better: a LOT better!:
Next year on day one meet and greet everybody is going to get good cell phone lists of everyone else. We lost poor Al Olson on the second day and never saw him again until late that evening. Every time we were going west, Al was going south, and vice versa.

Second, next year I'm going to insist on a more formalized structure of what the different attendees would like to go home with. What is it that you hope to learn and take back home from this type workshop?

Third, I will encourage the folks more strongly to bring a portfolio. We had 4 or 5 really great ones. 10 or 12 would have been better and the discussions would have helped us all.


There is a mountain of material to shoot in the Tonopah area. The days are exhausting! I hope everyone went back home with some great images. You'll see stuff here that you just don't see anywhere else. Nope, the little green men are off limits.


Pictures?? Anybody??? I expect a deluge, and you've all had some time to develop and scan :D:D

[eddie]

hopefully no one went home without getting something of what they came to acquire.

What is it that you hope to take back home from this type of workshop

A p&s. A struss. And a Hyperion. Please send them directly....:)

Thanks

Eddie

[Jim Galli]

A p&s. A struss. And a Hyperion. Please send them directly....:)

Thanks

Eddie

A little help on your spelling may be in order ;)

A POS, stress, and hyperbole is what my computer spits back when I enter your list in my spellcheck. Yes, we had plenty of that, and I'll be glad to send it on to you!

Jim

[ghostcount]

Sign me up for next year. Thanks again Jim, Per, and Eddie.

~Randy

[Mark Sawyer]

One of these years, when you schedule one after school lets out... :)

You might try a thread listing any noteworthy lenses you'll be making available (perhaps just for studio use?), and suggest other attendees add to the list.

I bet the wet plate workshop could be repeated every year, and/or another alternative process workshop added. Or if an appropriate space could be found, a modest studio might be set up for portraiture? (I bet someone could bring lights...)

And perhaps the local constabulary could add a special dark-room drunk-tank for participants! ;)

Just thoughts...

[eddie]

i need to soup some negs tonight....and scan some 45. but until then some more from the hyperion.

[Asher Kelman]

(also posted at the Group Discussion (http://www.apug.org/forums/groups/tonopah-nevada-d1195-2011-blowout.html) at APUG)

The May 2011 workshop is complete and most of us survived.



Jim,

You're a fabulous, patient, modest and most generous host. Per and Eddie rounded things out and everyone was so helpful. Thanks so much! I feel bad that I only had portraits to show, but promise to get real B&W prints from the opportunities you made for us. This has been simply the richest workshop for still life that one could ever imagine!

I'm also documenting the magnificent photo opportunities at http://openphotographyforums.com where large pictures and film or digital images are welcome here (http://www.openphotographyforums.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=72). I'll send invites to everyone who attended, pre-registered with logins. Everyone welcome. I hope this will provide a window for other, younger folks, who's experience is more limited to digital imaging to experience work with LF and film photography.

Cheers,

Asher

P.S. To everyone else! If I went across your view, my regrets and apologies! I'm sometimes like a busy bee shooting with both digital and film, but hope I didn't spoil any pictures!

[akfreak]

I will be there next time, Lots of fun and knowledge I see. Eddie you should of drug me up there with you.

[Michael Clark]

I will develop my first batch of negatives tonight and can't wait to see them. What a great time I had with everyone!
Hugo,do you think it was worth it bringing your large format camera's .

Mike

[Tri Tran]

Hugo,do you think it was worth it bringing your large format camera's .

Mike

Hi Mike,
Not for everyone but for Hugo I think it's worth it. He is an athlete , has strong back , strong knees, always stay in the top shape and i don't see why not.
I'm not sure if he brought 2 16x20 carbon Print that I have printed for him last month to show you guys or not but it's hard to believe when you've not seing a 16x20 Carbon contact print in the flesh.

[Jim Galli]

Tonopah according to Velvia! (http://www.openphotographyforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=115017#post115017)

[Asher Kelman]

Thanks Jim for kicking off posting so many pictures in OPF! I hope you will inspire another band of folk to lug LF camera and hunt out soft focus lenses!

Here are the links:


Tonopah Silver mine (http://www.openphotographyforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14001)


Goldfield Nevada: The Largest collection of Magnificent Still Life Junk on the Planet! (http://www.openphotographyforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14002)


White Caps Gold Mine, Manhatten, Nevada (http://www.openphotographyforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14005)


Belmont Nevada: Last Shoot for the Diehards! (http://www.openphotographyforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=115008)



Pictures should be in sRGB and between 600 to 1000 pixels wide, depending on how detail rich. Film images sought especially but digital files always welcomed too. Please state film and mode of processing if you are so inclined! :)


Thanks in advance for sharing images with the OPF community. Send me a PM and I'll do the registration for you to make it easy for you to post.


Asher

[Asher Kelman]

Hi Mike,
Not for everyone but for Hugo I think it's worth it. He is an athlete , has strong back , strong knees, always stay in the top shape and i don't see why not.
I'm not sure if he brought 2 16x20 carbon Print that I have printed for him last month to show you guys or not but it's hard to believe when you've not seing a 16x20 Carbon contact print in the flesh.

Tri,

Hugo's heart pumps at 43 per minute when he's rushed! He also drives non stop from LA to Tonopah at 80 MPH! Good thing I was dehydrated by sweating!

I saw the two prints and am very impressed. This process gives a much greater range of dark blacks than I thought possible. Also has a kind of 3D presence.

Asher

[Asher Kelman]

I'm updated the list of topics, one for each location. Folk from previous years workshops welcome to contribute their pictures too.

Here are the 5 topics covered so far.


Tonopah Silver mine (http://www.openphotographyforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14001)


Goldfield Nevada: The Largest collection of Magnificent Still Life Junk on the Planet! (http://www.openphotographyforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14002)


Nevada Desert Treasure at 6,000 ft: Monte Cristo Castle, a Proposed National Park (http://www.openphotographyforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14000)


White Caps Gold Mine, Manhatten, Nevada (http://www.openphotographyforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14005)


Belmont Nevada: Last Shoot for the Diehards! (http://www.openphotographyforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=115008)



Asher

[eddie]

I will be there next time, Lots of fun and knowledge I see. Eddie you should of drug me up there with you.

i TOLD you to come!


Hugo,do you think it was worth it bringing your large format camera's .

Mike

yes, it was good fro him....AND i got to play with the beast and did not have to buy the camera or the film! now lets see the images!


Hi Mike,
Not for everyone but for Hugo I think it's worth it. He is an athlete , has strong back , strong knees, always stay in the top shape and i don't see why not.


WHAT! then why did i have to carry that beast around all the time....hugo was crying the whole time.....:p har har har!

my 45 and his 1620.

[al olson]

Yesterday I finished developing b&w, today I develop the color. Here are a couple that I scanned on my laboriously slowww Microtek i800 last night. They were made on HP5+, exposed at box speed with a Linhof Technika IV. So, with slight editorial cropping, here they are.

The Throne Room (This was a high contrast situation and the goal was to emphasize the china door knob and the seat of the throne while retaining the grain of the wood.)
http://www.photo-artiste.com/images/tonopah/thethroneroom.jpg

The Old Ford (This old car has been garaged since when? The license plate is '25. The Ford logo, which was barely readable on the tail gate, is much clearer on the negative. And ... note the white booties!)
http://www.photo-artiste.com/images/tonopah/oldford.jpg

[eddie]

Al

You handled The difficult lighting situations perfectly. Maybe you should work on my film....:)

[Forrest Atkins]

Several firsts going on here.

Developed film in jobo tanks using techniques recommended by Jim Graves.thanks Jim.
Scanned on, new to me, Screen scanner. Thanks Vinny for tutorial.

Images
Cans:Mining museum...my take on Jim Galli image. 4x5 t-max 100 in pyro.
Cylinders: Mining Museum... 8x10 Ilford HP5 in pyro. Thanks to Bill T for reciprocity lessons.
Cropped Door/window: Manhatten... 8x10 Ilford HP5 in pyro.

8x10 Contact prints completed, gotta p/u paper developer to process 4x5 negatives.

[al olson]

Well, Eddie, so much for the fine art stuff. :eek: ... :D

Now one from Jim's Secret Spot with a little tilt on TMY-2.

http://www.photo-artiste.com/images/tonopah/whiterock.jpg

[al olson]

Here are a couple more as I scan them in, resize them and put them out on my internet provider.

This was made on Delta 100. I carefully calculated my exposures, allowing for blowout in the window, and then I exposed the first sheet. As long as I was set up I decided to expose another sheet at twice the EV. This is from the second sheet with some Elements contrast correction.
http://www.photo-artiste.com/images/tonopah/cogs.jpg


And this is on Tri-X 320
http://www.photo-artiste.com/images/tonopah/saloon.jpg

And here is a digital (SORRY) of Jim at work.
http://www.photo-artiste.com/images/tonopah/jim00.jpg

[ghostcount]

Tonopah according to Velvia! (http://www.openphotographyforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=115017#post115017)

Mr. G.,

I hope to see the "through the second floor window" shot you did in Belmont Mine. I recall you went through a lot breathing looking for a Copal shutter on that. :D

[Jim Galli]

Hi Randy. I have the film developed and it looks promising. Our problem-solving / planning was sound. A scan will tell the tale though. Still a LOT of contrast to control. But all of the interior detail is there. It's been too windy here to scan. The computer has been going on and off with the power, and the scanner is turned off. Jim


Mr. G.,

I hope to see the "through the second floor window" shot you did in Belmont Mine. I recall you went through a lot breathing looking for a Copal shutter on that. :D

[cdholden]

Hi Randy. I have the film developed and it looks promising. Our problem-solving / planning was sound. A scan will tell the tale though. Still a LOT of contrast to control. But all of the interior detail is there. It's been too windy here to scan. The computer has been going on and off with the power, and the scanner is turned off. Jim

Tonopah is high tech enough to have computers, but no UPS? Get with it, man!
I bet you guys are so far back you're still shooting FILM! :eek:

[Asher Kelman]

Hi Randy. I have the film developed and it looks promising. Our problem-solving / planning was sound. A scan will tell the tale though. Still a LOT of contrast to control. But all of the interior detail is there. It's been too windy here to scan. The computer has been going on and off with the power, and the scanner is turned off. Jim

Jim,

Was this with the 240mm Germinar mounted on my Chamonix board and held on to yours with genuine Tonopah elastic bands?

Asher

[goamules]

I'd like to go next time too. Maybe Mark Sawyer and I can take a mule team across the barren flats from Tucson together....

[madmax12]

something from the dunes I am very happy with Velvia 50 pushed one stop 4x5 dont remember the setting scanned and sized in photoshop to place here. why are my images coming out so small Damn technology

[Michael Clark]

Criag,you need a bigger neg,like a 5x7 or 8x10.

[Jim Galli]

something from the dunes I am very happy with Velvia 50 pushed one stop 4x5 dont remember the setting scanned and sized in photoshop to place here. why are my images coming out so small Damn technologyI saw it over at the flikr account (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24705213@N03/5725187814/sizes/l/in/photostream/) and it's beautiful. Gotta love that Velvia!

[Jim Galli]

OK, I plan to get serious about the scanning today, so will be posting some.


http://tonopahpictures.0catch.com/2011Workshop/Window_WhiteCapsS.jpg
window, white caps mine office, manhattan, nv

This is the only image I did at the White Caps mine in Manhattan. Eddie was giving our friend Glen an excellent basic lesson in Large Fromat 4X5 camera movements sharing his Chamonix with Glen. I thought I would expand it a bit and a bunch of the other folks joined in.

I knew this shot would not make my name a household word, but it did offer several problems to solve and a good teaching platform.

The first problem was an equipment one. I didn't have a sharp wide angle with me, and I didn't have a flash, or sync. Ask for help! Asher Kelman came to the rescue with a beautiful 240mm Docter Optik wide field lens in Copal 1 shutter. Al Olson had a Vivitar 285 flash, but no sync cord. Steve Lumry had a nice little Leica flash with an adapter cord. I used all 3 items on the Eastman 7X11

The photo has a bunch of technical problems to solve one at a time which allows a good chance for instruction. The first that comes to mind is the gigantic range of light to capture some how from direct sunlight outside, to a cave inside. The interior walls had been long ago coated with soot from a fire. Try to imagine the light readings from a soot covered wall in non-open shade inside and direct sunlight outside. 12 - 14 stops perhaps? We would hopefully solve that by popping 2 flashes inside during the exposure for outside. We actually did meter both situations but I didn't write it down. Trust me it was huge.

Next is focus. We can swing the back on the eastman to get the wall perfect everywhere and ensure that all of our verticals on the camera are plumb. Then we focus outside, put a fingernail at that place on the base, roll the standard forward for best inside focus, and look down at the distance. Ouch! Almost an inch. The best you can do is place the rear standard exactly half way between the near and far, and stop down. F64 1/2 is the only solution. It's the best trade off between getting absolutely nothing because of diffraction, and getting enough resolution everywhere for a usable image.

The exposure is 1/2 second f64 1/2. One flash is synced to the shutter, and the other will be popped by Eddie during the 1/2 second. Easily done, but we didn't calculate how much help the 2 flashes would provide at f64 1/2. That we just leave to hopefulness, and as you can see, it worked fine.

[ghostcount]

Jim,

This was a very informative teaching session and an excellent image. The technical difficulties was mitigated well and you've communicated them clearly. Thank you!

Now, is that 7x11 Eastman for sale? ;)

Randy

[eddie]

Jim,

Now, is that 7x11 Eastman for sale? ;)

Randy

be careful....you may not be able to afford what you ask.....:)

[Jim Galli]

be careful....you may not be able to afford what you ask.....:)

I just have to get him on a day the markets are tilted in his favor :D:D

That one ain't but it's brother upstairs that needs a fresh bellows is :cool:

[Hugo Zhang]

I just have to get him on a day the markets are tilted in his favor :D

Jim:

Mark it up big time as he is shorting the oil and is making a killing in the last two days. :)

[Jim Galli]

Jim:

Mark it up big time as he is shorting the oil and is making a killing in the last two days. :)

Oh Randy, Raaaandy?? Lets talk, little buddy :D:D

[eddie]

Oh Randy, Raaaandy?? Lets talk, little buddy :D:D

Better sell em the on you were playing with....the market is funny.

[Jim Galli]

http://tonopahpictures.0catch.com/2011Workshop/HugoBstillS.jpg
hugo, be still

Hugo Zhang who can't hold still for 1/40th of a second. :D:D Pinkham Smith 16"

[Jim Galli]

Goldfield Nevada Pinkham-Smith

http://tonopahpictures.0catch.com/2011Workshop/Sinks_Horiz7x11s.jpg
sinks, horiz

http://tonopahpictures.0catch.com/2011Workshop/DodgeS.jpg
dodge sedan, final eve light

http://tonopahpictures.0catch.com/2011Workshop/WashingMachineFrontPorch16PinkhamS.jpg
washing machine, front porch

This Pinkham IV 16" continues to surprise and delight. You'd almost throw the negs away thinking there's nothing but mush, then when you scan, they're gorgeous. Whata lens!

[ghostcount]

Jim:

Mark it up big time as he is shorting the oil and is making a killing in the last two days. :)

LOL - I'm in the wrong commodity. Proshares Ultrashort Silver did 9% today! :eek: Hopefully, cost of photographic supplies will ease a bit.


Oh Randy, Raaaandy?? Lets talk, little buddy :D:D

I'm not pretty handy with bellows work but for kicks how much is Eastman's brother?

[madmax12]

Jim and Michael thanx. When you look at it large its beautiful. Your images are coming out well.I like the 7x 17 shot is great your area house hold name in my book. I look for ward to the others I was in the dark room developing most of the day. Its fun to play in the dark Will be posting others wed

[Michael Clark]

How Randy makes any money in that market he's in beats me,buying some thing for 2 dollars and selling it for 1 dollar doesn't make sense. Take it easy on him Jim,I would think he is running out of dollars.

Those are nice photographs Jim.the return of the sinks.

[ghostcount]

something from the dunes I am very happy with Velvia 50 pushed one stop 4x5 dont remember the setting scanned and sized in photoshop to place here. why are my images coming out so small Damn technology

Wow! Well done!!!

[Stephen Lumry]

Jim, you must have used my tripod holes for your shot of the sinks. I thought I had copyrighted the composition; my lawyer will be talking to your lawyer. I am about to join the 8X10 club and if you just give me one of those nice spare brass lens you just have laying around, we will call it even. I will be contacting you for advice on which lens you might want to donate. :)

[ghostcount]

How Randy makes any money in that market he's in beats me,buying some thing for 2 dollars and selling it for 1 dollar doesn't make sense. Take it easy on him Jim,I would think he is running out of dollars.

Those are nice photographs Jim.the return of the sinks.

Sometimes I don't understand it either... :p

My be I should invest on Jim's 7x11 camera by shorting it. I'll buy it when it's expensive and sell it when it's cheap. :p

[ghostcount]

Criag,you need a bigger neg,like a 5x7 or 8x10.

I think he'll get to that real soon! :D

[Jim Galli]

Sometimes I don't understand it either... :p

My be I should invest on Jim's 7x11 camera by shorting it. I'll buy it when it's expensive and sell it when it's cheap. :p

Hey! That's my gig. We buy high and sell low, but we make it up in volume. :D:D

[ghostcount]

Hey! That's my gig. We buy high and sell low, but we make it up in volume. :D:D

You and Eddie have definitely cornered the soft lens market. Though, Eddie is going international. :cool:

[Stephen Lumry]

I have been scanning my B&W 35mm stuff from the White Caps mine in Manhattan and all I can say is it is a really target rich site. I hope it is still standing next year.

[Jim Galli]

Tonight I know what it feels like to be a real photographer!

But tonight I opened the Jobo drum and pulled out 5 perfectly exposed shots ... unbelievable! Now if at least one is a decent image ... .

Know how you feel. Even a blind man has to find the door once in a while, right? :D Anxious to see what you've got. I've been scanning my brains out all day, and it's just about time to call it quits and go to bed.

[Michael Clark]

Sometimes I don't understand it either... :p

My be I should invest on Jim's 7x11 camera by shorting it. I'll buy it when it's expensive and sell it when it's cheap. :p
Ya,you could sell to me real cheap,I'll make you a real nice deal.

[Jim Graves]

Whoops ... accidentally deleted this message ... this should go before Jim's ... 3 messages up:

"Tonight I know what it feels like to be a real photographer!

I am so used to opening my Jobo drum and finding only 1 or 2 decent exposures out of the 5 negatives ... I shoot with so many different OLD cameras, OLD lenses, in different formats, with different films that my success rate is low ... often way low ... if I really like the subject I may shoot 4 or 5 shots of it.

On the Tonopah trip I shot 4x5 pinhole (some worked, some didn't), 4x5 Speed Graphic with the focal plane shutter handheld (neither of the 2 shots turned out), 4x5 conventional (night exposures ... too much wind, so blurry), 5x7 (1st time with the 210 Commercial Ektar ... I'm going to LOVE that lens), 6 1/2 x 8 1/2 (only one shot and haven't seen it yet), and 8x10 (with 4 different lenses) ... some with lens cap shutters, two with old Studio shutters, two with Packard shutters, and some with conventional shutters ... none newer than 50 years old. I shot 5 different films. This in NOT a recipe for consistent success and is certainly not recommended for the easily frustrated.

But tonight I opened the Jobo drum and pulled out 5 perfectly exposed shots ... unbelievable! Now if at least one is a decent image ... ."

[Jim Graves]

Here are 4 of the 5 (the 5th was a repeat of one already posted):

[Hugo Zhang]

Jim,

Wonderful pictures and especially the last one! It has brought back my memory of that hot afternoon: harsh sunlight outside and delightful and quiet play of shadows and light inside that wooden frame.

I have yet to develop my WP negatives of the same scene.

Hugo

[al olson]

For years I have been saving (hoarding) the last partial box of Kodak HSI (expiration 2002). I had expended four sheets shortly after purchase, but the third holder was not used and returned to the freezer. From time to time after it was discontinued I would take it with me in case the conditions warranted the expenditure of this precious piece of film. Finding none I would return it to the freezer.

I brought the holder with me to the Temptation, with the hope I would find something to suit my vision. I intended to expose it anyway to see if the film was still good. I found some nice possibilities at White Cap.

Unfortunately, upon development I found my fingerprints had become etched into the emulsion. They kinda frame the images. Perhaps this qualifies as fine art.

I blame the length of time since loading the holder, and perhaps the freezing and thawing, for the damage. It appears, however, that the emulsion is still good after years in the freezer. Next time I will attempt these shots with freshly loaded HSI, I have about 17 sheets remaining and I think these subjects deserve another chance.

Both photos were made with an R72 infrared filter.
The first was exposed at EI=100.
http://photo-artiste.com/images/tonopah/whitecapir.jpg


This one was exposed at EI=50. I had to darken slightly and add contrast in Elements.
http://photo-artiste.com/images/tonopah/whitecaphouseir.jpg

[Jim Graves]

Extraordinary! I love the other-worldly look of IR.

[Jim Galli]

For years I have been saving (hoarding) the last partial box of Kodak HSI (expiration 2002). I had expended four sheets shortly after purchase, but the third holder was not used and returned to the freezer. From time to time after it was discontinued I would take it with me in case the conditions warranted the expenditure of this precious piece of film. Finding none I would return it to the freezer.

I brought the holder with me to the Temptation, with the hope I would find something to suit my vision. I intended to expose it anyway to see if the film was still good. I found some nice possibilities at White Cap.

Unfortunately, upon development I found my fingerprints had become etched into the emulsion. They kinda frame the images. Perhaps this qualifies as fine art.

I blame the length of time since loading the holder, and perhaps the freezing and thawing, for the damage. It appears, however, that the emulsion is still good after years in the freezer. Next time I will attempt these shots with freshly loaded HSI, I have about 17 sheets remaining and I think these subjects deserve another chance.

Both photos were made with an R72 infrared filter.
The first was exposed at EI=100.


These are like a rare treat! Thanks Al.

[Hugo Zhang]

Al,

If I shut my eyes, your pictures are exactly what I remember of that deserted mine. That's where you lost your filter pack. Guess your pictures are rewards for that loss.:)

Hugo

[Asher Kelman]

Both photos were made with an R72 infrared filter.
The first was exposed at EI=100.
http://photo-artiste.com/images/tonopah/whitecapir.jpg


This one was exposed at EI=50. I had to darken slightly and add contrast in Elements.
http://photo-artiste.com/images/tonopah/whitecaphouseir.jpg

Bravo Al,

You hoarding paid off and again my empathy on the loss of the filter! One always loses something. It could have been worse.

These pictures are wonderful and the finger prints add, not subtract from mages of a deserted mining town. Yes, they're really good and I see no need to repeat them!

Asher

[Bill Suderman]

Please forgive my lazyness because I didn't read all 9 pages of this thread. Having said that, will there be a "Tonopah Temptation Workshop 2012"? I have both 4x5 and 8x10 formats begging me to take them out there for an event like this. However, I am inclined to come out on my own, too. (That's a threat, Jim. ) I'd really enjoy hooking up with a few like minded deriLICKs (as in licking salt off the hand before sucking the lime followed by a "measured"shot of Jose...). I'd also make a side trip out to the old WW2 AAF hangers, my uncle trained there in '42-'43 with the 4th AF, 442nd Base Unit, B-24's. The hangers are rapidly dissapearing, maybe only 3 left. But that is a personal side trip. I'd like to join you guys, talk about total immersion...heaven! So, will I bring the sinor or the agfa/ansco or both...do you work from the tailgate or bring a very large, gullible, musclebound friend...
thx in advance,
Bill

[al olson]

Jim & Jim & Hugo & Asher, thank you for your thoughtful comments. These photos are sufficiently trashed that I will never bother to print them. I was just kidding about fine art. Although if I had made them with a Holga ... eh?

What I was demonstrating was the enormous loss to photography when Kodak ceased making these films. Kodak's HSI is sensitive to 950 nm and can be exposed at reasonable EIs. Compared with Efke and Rollei IRs that cut off at 820nm and have little sensitivity in the IR region (like Efke at EI=1.5 or less and Rollei at EI=6 to 12).

I have backup photos that I made with MF on Ilford's SFX film, some with IR filters and some without. Despite SFX's short IR region (peaks at 720nm and cuts off at 740, Ilford calls it extended red) it has good sensitivity and produces nice effects with a red or an infrared filter. It has great tonality even unfiltered. None of the mentioned films produce the Wood Effect (i.e. the lightening of healthy vegetation) as well as HSI.

The results that this outdated HSI is capable of producing are incentive to go back and photograph the area again. I am reserving at least 8 sheets from my remaining hoard for next year's Temptation.

[Jim Galli]

Please forgive my lazyness because I didn't read all 9 pages of this thread. Having said that, will there be a "Tonopah Temptation Workshop 2012"? I have both 4x5 and 8x10 formats begging me to take them out there for an event like this. However, I am inclined to come out on my own, too. (That's a threat, Jim. ) I'd really enjoy hooking up with a few like minded deriLICKs (as in licking salt off the hand before sucking the lime followed by a "measured"shot of Jose...). I'd also make a side trip out to the old WW2 AAF hangers, my uncle trained there in '42-'43 with the 4th AF, 442nd Base Unit, B-24's. The hangers are rapidly dissapearing, maybe only 3 left. But that is a personal side trip. I'd like to join you guys, talk about total immersion...heaven! So, will I bring the sinor or the agfa/ansco or both...do you work from the tailgate or bring a very large, gullible, musclebound friend...
thx in advance,
Bill

Hi Bill. Our workshop proves the best shots are just a few steps from the tailgate. We talked about going out to the airport for the hangars but there's too much other stuff to do.

Boy did we pick it right too. It's been windy and cold ever since. Windy enough and cold enough that this wimpy photog would stay indoors and not bother. jg

[Jim Galli]

Here are a few from our first day at the mining park.


http://tonopahpictures.0catch.com/2011Workshop/OfficeMachinesS.jpg
office machines

http://tonopahpictures.0catch.com/2011Workshop/SoftWindowSilTopMineS.jpg
window reflections

http://tonopahpictures.0catch.com/2011Workshop/SareHouseBinsFoundItemsS.jpg
found items, warehouse bins

and my favorite,

http://tonopahpictures.0catch.com/2011Workshop/WarehouseDeskNChairS.jpg
mining office desk & chair

I was using the 5X7 Speedy that day.

Keep posting folks. Love looking at these.

[Asher Kelman]

from our first day at the mining park.


............ my favorite,

http://tonopahpictures.0catch.com/2011Workshop/WarehouseDeskNChairS.jpg
mining office desk & chair


This, Jim is my super-favorite too. I wonder all the troubles that were discussed there!

I'm thinking that you did an awfully good job in dealing with the very wide dynamic range of the illumination. Did you over-expose for shadows and then develop in your very dilute mix for a long time? Ot is this just your standard normal processing?


[QUOTE=Jim Galli;727698]I was using the 5X7 Speedy that day.

Keep posting folks. Love looking at these.

So that's a 5x7 Speed Graphic? Hmm! What lens did you mate her with?

Asher

I'll be scanning some of my pictures too. Just need to set up a computer with a a SCSI port!

[Jim Galli]

Thanks Asher. Nothing special done here. Normal exp and dev. The lens is the lovely Cooke Series III f6.5 that came with the camera.


[QUOTE=Jim Galli;727698]from our first day at the mining park.



This, Jim is my super-favorite too. I wonder all the troubles that were discussed there!

I'm thinking that you did an awfully good job in dealing with the very wide dynamic range of the illumination. Did you over-expose for shadows and then develop in your very dilute mix for a long time? Ot is this just your standard normal processing?




So that's a 5x7 Speed Graphic? Hmm! What lens did you mate her with?

Asher

I'll be scanning some of my pictures too. Just need to set up a computer with a a SCSI port!

[eddie]

HEY! Jim That 1st and last u stole from me...:). Lol. That Pinkham really Glows.

Waiting in Dublin for my plane to leave.

[al olson]

Here are a few from our first day at the mining park.

. . .

http://tonopahpictures.0catch.com/2011Workshop/SareHouseBinsFoundItemsS.jpg
found items, warehouse bins

. . .



Jim, these are wonderful. I wouldn't turn down #3 either. I can see that I passed up some good opportunities in that building, but I didn't want to put my tripod in the dust marks made by Eddie's tripod.

[Hugo Zhang]

Here are a few from our first day at the mining park.


In classic Jalli style!!!

[Jim Galli]

Thanks Hugo!

SNOW at 5500 elevation and just now it is hailing and sleeting. Guess we picked the right week to shoot!

[madmax12]

Two images so far in the B&W :D

[Jim Galli]

Two images so far in the B&W :D

Like your composition on that first one. All those competing squares are really working!

[madmax12]

Thanx Jim appreciate the praise

[Kirk Gittings]

Damn, I'm sorry I missed this one. what a blast.

[ghostcount]

Two images so far in the B&W :D

These look awesome! I can't wait to see more.

[Jay Decker]

Any pictures taken around the cow carcass?

[Michael Clark]

Any pictures taken around the cow carcass?
Yes,Judy and Slumry took some,there was still some hide left and scattered bones.Had to pay homage to the Sacred Cow.

[ghostcount]

Yes,Judy and Slumry took some,there was still some hide left and scattered bones.Had to pay homage to the Sacred Cow.

Was that at the Dunes? The headless cow?

[Jim Graves]

One more from Goldfield:

[eddie]

Two images so far in the B&W :D

Great start craig. What about the shack we were working on?


Damn, I'm sorry I missed this one. what a blast.

Put next year on your schedule. Now you know. :)


One more from Goldfield:

Excellent shot jim.

[Asher Kelman]

One more from Goldfield:


Jim,

This is a great shot of a car with personality. You isolated it well.

Thanks for sharing this gem!

Asher

[Asher Kelman]

I'm in awe of all the still life work we've seen so far. My main experience is with portraits and action shots. So there's a lot of new ground to cover.

At the end of a day of shooting, I discovered Jim and Eddie were photographing in a different part of the abandoned Tonopah Silver Mine Museum. The building is easily overlooked as its mostly empty. It has one very interesting small office with a broken down chair. The leather is cracked and the seat couldnt possibly take the weight of an adult! So I purloined a small plank and put t over the dangerously fragile center of the seat and had Jm Galli sit down and it held!

The light coming in from the window was very bright. Ideally, I'd have overcome the light with flash and a fast enough shutter speed to get the effect of the evening light and have the shadows opened up just enough. Still, that was not possible. We were packing up!

So here's my grab shot with 8x10 Efke 25 ISO film, scanned at 600 dpi with a simple desktop all in one printer-scanner, MP610 I got for free when I bought my wife her iMac!


http://openphotographyforums.com/2007_OPF_AK/Asher_Kelman_2007/Jim_Galli_silvermine.jpg

Asher Kelman: Jim Galli in the Tonopah Silver Mine Office

8x10 Silver Gelatin i50 mm Super Symmar XL, Efke 25 ISO PL 25 M Film, Chamonix 8x10 Camera


Jim has, of course, taken many wonderful pictures of the mine in color film and this very chair and other treasures in B&W. A selection are here (http://www.openphotographyforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=115445).

Asher

[eddie]

Nice shot ash. Maybe small amounts if credit for the model......NAH! Lol

[Forrest Atkins]

Great grab shot Asher. Seem to capture Jim's mood (end of day, kinda tired) nicely.

[Jim Galli]

I'm in awe of all the still life work we've seen so far. My main experience is with portraits and action shots. So there's a lot of new ground to cover.

At the end of a day of shooting, I discovered Jim and Eddie were photographing in a different part of the abandoned Tonopah Silver Mine Museum. The building is easily overlooked as its mostly empty. It has one very interesting small office with a broken down chair. The leather is cracked and the seat couldnt possibly take the weight of an adult! So I purloined a small plank and put t over the dangerously fragile center of the seat and had Jm Galli sit down and it held!

The light coming in from the window was very bright. Ideally, I'd have overcome the light with flash and a fast enough shutter speed to get the effect of the evening light and have the shadows opened up just enough. Still, that was not possible. We were packing up!

So here's my grab shot with 8x10 Efke 25 ISO film, scanned at 600 dpi with a simple desktop all in one printer-scanner, MP610 I got for free when I bought my wife her iMac!


http://openphotographyforums.com/2007_OPF_AK/Asher_Kelman_2007/Jim_Galli_silvermine.jpg

Asher Kelman: Jim Galli in the Tonopah Silver Mine Office

8x10 Silver Gelatin i50 mm Super Symmar XL, Efke 25 ISO PL 25 M Film, Chamonix 8x10 Camera


Jim has, of course, taken many wonderful pictures of the mine in color film and this very chair and other treasures in B&W. A selection are here (http://www.openphotographyforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=115445).

Asher

Remember now, I get a copy. I have 3 kids :D:D

VEry few images of my mug that I like. This is one. Consider that the most difficult of complements to achieve sir!

[al olson]

Asher,

That is an excellent portrait of Jim. The only thing missing are the cobwebs.

Jim Graves,

Great monochrome of the car and the house. I liked your earlier photos as well.

[Hugo Zhang]

I'm in awe of all

Asher

Asher,

I have to agree with everybody that this picture of Jim is very good, almost make him a hollywood star of 30's. It's amazing that you made this with ISO 25 speed film in that dim light and with none of his famed portrait lenses!

I hope this picture will encourage you to burn more 810 films. :)

Hugo

[Asher Kelman]

Asher,

I have to agree with everybody that this picture of Jim is very good, almost make him a hollywood star of 30's. It's amazing that you made this with ISO 25 speed film in that dim light and with none of his famed portrait lenses!

I hope this picture will encourage you to burn more 810 films. :)


Hugo,

The soft focus lenses are my best treasures for portrait work. However, the PS945 covers 4x5 well and just covers 8x10 at least at f16, (I'll test it wide open, shortly), but to get the entire room, soft focus, it's perhaps not quite wide enough. I'll report back on this. My P&S visual quality was left at home. That would have been perfect as I understand from Jim that its image circle is much large than the PS945. )When I left LA, I grabbed what I thought was the wrong barrel lens, unfortunately a simple 300 mm lens instead.)

Thanks so much for your tireless driving both ways, non-stop except for fluid relief and fuel and for your constant guidance. I'm very happy with the Chamonix, except now I realize that I need a bag bellows for this wide angle lens when there are tilts and swings! Also, I will move to ISO 400 to get faster shutter speed and fill in flash/reflectors to reduce the dynamic range. This room was really hard to cover from the window to the dark shadows.

I appreciate everyone's kindness!

Asher

[ghostcount]

Did you sign a model release form? :)

[Asher Kelman]

Did you sign a model release form? :)

Jim refused those poses for which releases are needed, LOL

Asher

[Michael Clark]

Was that at the Dunes? The headless cow?
Yep,but when we last were there,the head was still attached to the almost complete body.

Mike

[Stephen Lumry]

OK, fess up, who took the head? Also, the cow refused to sign a model release so no pictures that I can publish.

[Michael Clark]

I'll sign for the cow so whats the beef!!

[Jim Galli]

A link to a page (http://tonopahpictures.0catch.com/2011Workshop/PinkButtes/4X5PinkButte.html) shot where I didn't take you......yet. Me and Eddie went out there a couple days after the workshop. Go take a look. Here's a teaser....


http://tonopahpictures.0catch.com/2011Workshop/PinkButtes/pinkbuttetreeS.jpg
juniper tree

[mdm]

No mush in sight, or did I miss something. Have your cake and eat it too.

[Michael Clark]

That looks like a great place Jim,don't know about the walking part and falling down,don't think old Jake could take it.

Mike

[goamules]

Wow, love the results of a little hiking work. I need to do that more...with film, not wetplate. Now that's work!

[Asher Kelman]

Now this is a real good site for Eddie's video!

Kudos, for the new rock series!

Asher

[madmax12]

Any pictures taken around the cow carcass?

The homage was paid to the cow . I have a couple that I need to scan . The Dunes were wonderful. Willbe posting more this weekend . Work keeps getting the way.

Eddie that image will be processed this weekend also. I am very excited .

Just for help That new lens is 38 mm screw in part is that a 1 23 0 or what please help need to find a lens board for it Craig

[Jim Galli]

The homage was paid to the cow . I have a couple that I need to scan . The Dunes were wonderful. Willbe posting more this weekend . Work keeps getting the way.

Eddie that image will be processed this weekend also. I am very excited .

Just for help That new lens is 38 mm screw in part is that a 1 23 0 or what please help need to find a lens board for it Craig

Craig, that's Copal 1 size. Post them pitchers.

[madmax12]

Thank you alll

[Asher Kelman]

Thank you alll

I know there's all sorts of levels of scanning, but I'd like to know what are the guys in this thread using. I'm having trouble getting my Linoscan Saphir 2 to be seen! So I'll either get a SCSI to USB connector for $150 or a new flatbed. The Epson Expression can take up to 11x16 transparencies and has autofocus.

Asher

[Jim Graves]

I'm scanning with the Epson V750

[Jim Galli]

AT home I have an Epson V700 and at work I have the big Epson that can scan Xparencies up to 11X17, 1640XL iirc.

[Asher Kelman]

AT home I have an Epson V700 and at work I have the big Epson that can scan Xparencies up to 11X17, 1640XL iirc.
Do you just scan them and not worry about the focus , or do you shim them to the exact height?

Asher

[eddie]

Do you just scan them and not worry about the focus , or do you shim them to the exact height?

Asher

OH! u gotta shim very very carefully! :rolleyes:

[Jim Galli]

Do you just scan them and not worry about the focus , or do you shim them to the exact height?

Asher

I just drop them on the glass and scan. But I''m just making low res to show on CRT, I'm not trying to milk enough out of them to get prints semi-equivalent to a good contact print.

[Michael Clark]

Jim wait till you see my bad contact prints,scans would be an improvement.

[Asher Kelman]

Jim wait till you see my bad contact prints,scans would be an improvement.

Well,

I'm for now I'm using the free MP610 printer scanner freebie that came with my wife's iMac!

So your contact prints will still not be at the bottom of the heap.

Asher

[madmax12]

Ok Here are a few I developed the rest this AM. When they dry I will post those I need to down size even further Later

4x5 developed HC100 7 min. @70

[eddie]

great shots craig!

[Asher Kelman]

Ok Here are a few I developed the rest this AM. When they dry I will post those I need to down size even further Later

4x5 developed HC100 7 min. @70
So impressive, especially the one on the right.

Very solid crafted image.

Asher

[Michael Clark]

Those are great Criag.

[Forrest Atkins]

Nice capture Craig!

[Jim Graves]

And a couple of more - one from Goldfield and one from the Tonopah Mining Park. Both are 5x7, 210mm Commercial Ektar on FP4 rotary developed in HC-110 dilution H.

[Jim Graves]

And another couple from one 8x10 ... full frame and a crop (360mm APO Ronar)

[Jim Galli]

Ok Here are a few I developed the rest this AM. When they dry I will post those I need to down size even further Later

4x5 developed HC100 7 min. @70


And a couple of more - one from Goldfield and one from the Tonopah Mining Park. Both are 5x7, 210mm Commercial Ektar on FP4 rotary developed in HC-110 dilution H.


And another couple from one 8x10 ... full frame and a crop (360mm APO Ronar)

Beautiful stuff and thanks for sharing. Especially those velvet sand dunes. Almost inspires me to get up tomorrow AM at 4:00 and drive out there..................or not.

[akfreak]

Awesome stuff Jim. Love the pinholes. All my negs have pinholes.

Here's the shot of Eddie I did with the 24" Ed. Liesegang branded Euryscop;


http://tonopahpictures.0catch.com/2011Workshop/eddie_2.jpg

A very sweet lens. Sour subject.

Keep 'em comin. I've got a bunch to get scanned and posted.
I had the same thing at Bellagio Sweet lens Sour subject. But I think it was my fault composition was off a little so it doesn't flatter my subject. 100% My fault for sure. I know how he loves sharp images so I thought I would post a soft one, :)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2196/5745516471_df8fab17e4_b.jpg

[madmax12]

Beautiful stuff and thanks for sharing. Especially those velvet sand dunes. Almost inspires me to get up tomorrow AM at 4:00 and drive out there..................or not.

Hey If the wind has been blowing hard I am out there LOL:D

[madmax12]

This was the scene that Myself , Eddie And Jim Galli did some experiment stuff on

The first one is the regular meter and set take the image. Regular developing times

The second was the pre-exposure then return to the previous exposure of the first image then in the processing 2 plus in the developer

Using HC 110 the regular developement was 7 minutes

The second 2 + was 9 mins and 20 seconds .

You can see the difference in the shadows and the contrast of the image.

The images were scan neg taken to PS4 to be sized and up loaded to here

Thanx Jim and Eddie for this trick.

These second seems to have a looks like a light leak or that was from the pre exposure problem . But I think it makes look as it was and older style image

[Michael Clark]

I had the same thing at Bellagio Sweet lens Sour subject. But I think it was my fault composition was off a little so it doesn't flatter my subject. 100% My fault for sure. I know how he loves sharp images so I thought I would post a soft one, :)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2196/5745516471_df8fab17e4_b.jpg
This one of Eddy to me reveals a side of Eddy not obvious right away, but suspected after a while hanging out with him. Nice catch,nice fellow

[Jim Graves]

Craig ... and, another question: Was the pre-exposure done with a gray card? And how did you determine the pre-exposure exposure time?

Per did this lesson at the Redwoods workshop but it's gone right out of my head.

[madmax12]

Craig ... and, another question: Was the pre-exposure done with a gray card? And how did you determine the pre-exposure exposure time?

Per did this lesson at the Redwoods workshop but it's gone right out of my head.
Per told us we could use anything we happened to use the slide out of the film holder .
I will post the whole process as soon as I find my notes

[eddie]

Anything can be used as a gray card....just meter whatever u are using. The meter makes it gray.

Oh! London is great! Wait till u l see the dallmeyers and cooke lenses I found at an antiques shop......:)

[Jim Galli]

Exposure by committee meeting. Worked well though. Good local contrast on a hot direct sunlight scene with info in the shadows.

[madmax12]

:D I have been a scanning fool this am some more mainly fromthe museum and a couple from other

[madmax12]

the rest are here;)

[Michael Clark]

Craig, were you using the nikor 210 on the #10 shack with your 4x5 ? Did not think that it would vignette the corners.

[ghostcount]

Dang Craig! You are the man. Great shots.

[madmax12]

Craig, were you using the nikor 210 on the #10 shack with your 4x5 ? Did not think that it would vignette the corners.

that was my 100 lens not sure what I did better look closer next

[madmax12]

Dang Craig! You are the man. Great shots.
thanx randy were are yours better get some up

[Asher Kelman]

The last and most intriguing place we visited was Belmont, Nevada. It's set up as a place for tourists to take snaps of about 4-5 rescued mining equipments, 2 abandoned vintage trucks and, of course to to sell beer!

B&W derivative from Portra NC 400 The original and derivative are shown here (http://www.openphotographyforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14089) at larger size.

Although I love color, B&W seems better for this subject and color lends itself to assignment of colors to tones. I am not claiming it's better to shoot in color!


Comments welcome!


Asher

[akfreak]

Anything can be used as a gray card....just meter whatever u are using. The meter makes it gray.

Oh! London is great! Wait till u l see the dallmeyers and cooke lenses I found at an antiques shop......:)

Already pimpnin gear, Shameless. I wanna see first, LOL

[Asher Kelman]

one 8x10 ... full frame




http://openphotographyforums.com/2007_OPF_AK/Jim_Graves/Blasting-Magazine-web_orignal.jpg

Jim Graves: Mine Entrance at Tonopah Silver Mine


Jim,

This picture is pleasing. I saw you and Hugo taking pictures there, but I didn't see how the composition might come out. I like your presentation and I'm sorry that I myself passed on the opportunity. I like the array of contrasting texture. Likely, there's more detail in the sandy-gravel that would be seen in the actual print.

Thanks for sharing!

Asher

[Craig Roberts]

Here's Jim in Rhyolite, NM in 2007. Craig

[Jim Galli]

Here's Jim in Rhyolite, NM in 2007. Craig

Rhyolite Nevada :D:D. Hey, that's my ex-14X17 Wiz. And it must have been a cold day because I'm wearing my current focus cloth.

[Craig Roberts]

Yeah NV not NM - me bad. It was a fairly nice day.

[Jim Graves]

That must have been an interesting self-portrait.

[Jim Galli]

Waiting on about 9 of you that haven't kicked in anything to look at yet :confused:

Am I the only guy with a scanner? Anyways, enough chastising, here are 3 from the dunes. Most of my dune shots were not pleasing because the aperture on my Cooke lens was stuck at f6.5 and the dunes don't lend themselves to oof areas very well. So here's a couple I thought were OK.


http://tonopahpictures.0catch.com/2011Workshop/Female_Prerogative.jpg
female prerogative


http://tonopahpictures.0catch.com/2011Workshop/Dunes_03s.jpg
dunes #3

http://tonopahpictures.0catch.com/2011Workshop/Dunes_01s.jpg
dunes #1

[Asher Kelman]

Waiting on about 9 of you that haven't kicked in anything to look at yet :confused:

Am I the only guy with a scanner? Anyways, enough chastising, here are 3 from the dunes. Most of my dune shots were not pleasing because the aperture on my Cooke lens was stuck at f6.5 and the dunes don't lend themselves to oof areas very well. So here's a couple I thought were OK.


http://tonopahpictures.0catch.com/2011Workshop/Female_Prerogative.jpg
female prerogative




Jim,

You're the leader! Glad to see these desert pictures. Looking forward for everyone's work! We do need a rap on the knuckles once in a while, LOL.

The first one reminds me of a baseball surface! ..... or else a drunk driver's tracks!

Asher

[Jim Galli]

Jim,

You're the leader! Glad to see these desert pictures. Looking forward for everyone's work! We do need a rap on the knuckles once in a while, LOL.

The first one reminds me of a baseball surface! ..... or else a drunk driver's tracks!

Asher

I'll 'splain it to you. Walked up the hill. Changed her mind. Walked back down.

[Stephen Lumry]

Or a drunk turtle :)

[ghostcount]

Waiting on about 9 of you that haven't kicked in anything to look at yet :confused:



Well make that 8.

I finally got enough time to soup some Pyro and fire up the Jobo. Sorry for the scanner dust bunnies.

Unfortunately, my 3010 drum sprung a leak due to the use of a foot pump - I'd hate to dip and dunk in the dark. I'm gonna' try to fix it by using some left over surfboard fiber cloth and epoxy resin; I knew I had a good reason for not throwing all that surfboard shaping materials.

Any you guys know a good way of popping the lid off a 3010 drum without using a foot pump?


http://www.planetrandy.com/Temp_Data/Pics/Tonopah_2011/Tonopah%204x5%20Scan%20-%20Goldfield.jpg
Thanks Ted for helping me out on this shot! :D

http://www.planetrandy.com/Temp_Data/Pics/Tonopah_2011/Tonopah%205x7%20Scan%20-%20Dunes.jpg

[ghostcount]

More...


http://www.planetrandy.com/Temp_Data/Pics/Tonopah_2011/Tonopah%205x7%20Scan%20-%20Furnace%201.jpg

http://www.planetrandy.com/Temp_Data/Pics/Tonopah_2011/Tonopah%205x7%20Scan%20-%20Furnace%202.jpg

http://www.planetrandy.com/Temp_Data/Pics/Tonopah_2011/Tonopah%205x7%20Scan%20-%20Secret%20Spot%201.jpg

http://www.planetrandy.com/Temp_Data/Pics/Tonopah_2011/Tonopah%204x5%20Scan%20-%20Lamp.jpg
Thanks Eddie for the shadow side fill light.

[ghostcount]

...and more...


http://www.planetrandy.com/Temp_Data/Pics/Tonopah_2011/Tonopah%204x5%20Scan%20-%20Mine.jpg

http://www.planetrandy.com/Temp_Data/Pics/Tonopah_2011/Tonopah%204x5%20Scan%20-%20Fairbanks%20Morse.jpg

http://www.planetrandy.com/Temp_Data/Pics/Tonopah_2011/Tonopah%205x7%20Scan%20-%20Train.jpg

[Jim Galli]

BRAVO! Great images. Where was the table and chairs with the bottle on it? That looks like Bodie. Well Done.

[ghostcount]

Thanks Jim.

That was a through the window shot in Goldfield (Santa Fe?). I didn't stop down the aperture too much (I think f/16 or f11) hoping that it would sufficiently throw the dirt and dust on the window pane out of focus.

[Jim Galli]

Never had a problem with the foot pump either. What'd it do? Blow out the bottom? I broke my 3010 years ago and repaired it with some gray epoxy goop. Still going fine.

[mandoman7]

Any you guys know a good way of popping the lid off a 3010 drum without using a foot pump?


I've had good luck with placing the lid under running hot water. Comes off very easily that way.

[Asher Kelman]

Those are marvelous pictures! I love your work.

Shouldn't use an air pump as air expands! Water doesn't. Simply use a rubber stopper with a tube in in it connected to the water tap! Simple, it will come off with no crashing!

http://www.apug.org/forums/attachments/darkroom-equipment/10353d1206980474-reflections-new-jobo-cpa-2-owner-hpim1648s.jpg.att
Not my idea at all, but it's an inexpensive and painless solution! It's from APUG! here (http://www.apug.org/forums/forum43/48913-reflections-new-jobo-cpa-2-owner.html).

Asher

[eddie]

Randy

Great shots. Just for fun how did the lantern with no fill look?

[ghostcount]

Randy

Great shots. Just for fun how did the lantern with no fill look?

Here ya' go... Quite big difference, thanks man.


http://www.planetrandy.com/Temp_Data/Pics/Tonopah_2011/Tonopah 5x7 Scan - Lamp and Pick.jpg



I've had good luck with placing the lid under running hot water. Comes off very easily that way.



Shouldn't use an air pump as air expands! Water doesn't. Simply use a rubber stopper with a tube in in it connected to the water tap! Simple, it will come off with no crashing!


Thanks mandoman and Ash, I'll try that once I fixed it this weekend.


Never had a problem with the foot pump either. What'd it do? Blow out the bottom?

Yup it blew through two cylinders.

[Asher Kelman]

Here ya' go... Quite big difference, thanks man.


http://www.planetrandy.com/Temp_Data/Pics/Tonopah_2011/Tonopah 5x7 Scan - Lamp and Pick.jpg

Striking! Eddie that's a nice composition. The cup is in the sweet spot for the whole picture and then once again in a vertical frame made by the wood. That round form stops movement dead. The pick axe and the oblique shadows are great elements to balance the stationary circular form which is the dominant element. This is an interesting picture to look at and will make a great exhibition print. I'd consider bringing out, just a tad more, the dark toned forms in the black space on the right lower quadrant.

Kudos!

Asher

BTW, tell us about your lighting trials for this!

[Asher Kelman]

http://www.planetrandy.com/Temp_Data/Pics/Tonopah_2011/Tonopah 5x7 Scan - Lamp and Pick.jpg

Striking! Eddie that's a nice composition.



Oops,

Randy, that's a nice composition, I guess Eddie was watching you!

Asher

[eddie]

Oops,

Randy, that's a nice composition, I guess Eddie was watching you!

Asher


No. We were discussing fill light.....then and now......

Here it is with fill......

http://www.planetrandy.com/Temp_Data/Pics/Tonopah_2011/Tonopah%204x5%20Scan%20-%20Lamp.jpg

[Asher Kelman]

No. We were discussing fill light.....then and now......

Here it is with fill......

http://www.planetrandy.com/Temp_Data/Pics/Tonopah_2011/Tonopah%204x5%20Scan%20-%20Lamp.jpg


Eddie,

That first picture is so impressive, but so is this new one. But what a difference in the result! The fill light, here and the closer view work very well together. Now the bowl element is no long a feature that makes eye movement stop. The extra light has built the form well, to something more complex. It works by its bold simplicity, with the geometric patterns of the pick and shadows excluded, as suggested for a picture within a picture in the wide angle version.

That's what's so special about LF, this slower, studied relationship of the photographer with the subject.

I like the result!

Asher

[Asher Kelman]

The White Caps mine we visited is decaying fast. Jim pointed out that the metal shed and wooden buildings we see now, likely will be collapsed in a year or two or maybe tomorrow. One structure seems determined to outlast everything else.

There was a wooden form against the sky, seemed like a gateway that defied the passage of time. The photograph is taken with the Chamonix 8x10 using Kodak Portra NC and then scanned with my freebie all-in-one Canon printer-scanner from a color print.





http://openphotographyforums.com/2007_OPF_AK/Asher_Kelman_2007/White fields mineScan-110521-0002Color.jpg

Asher Kelman: Gateway at White Caps

Color


A B&W derivative of this is shown here (http://www.openphotographyforums.com/forums/editpost.php?do=editpost&p=115919)


Yes, i need a center filter for my 150 mm super Symmar XL!

Comment welcome!

Asher

[Asher Kelman]

A B&W derivative of this is shown here (http://www.openphotographyforums.com/forums/editpost.php?do=editpost&p=115919)


Correction:

Link is here (http://www.openphotographyforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14005)! :)

Asher

[Jim Graves]

A reminder ... the Mining Park gave us extraordinary access to their facilities and exhibits ... unlike virtually any other private park. They asked for only some printed photos in return. It would be really nice if each of us sent one or two prints to them for the museum.

I left them an 8x10 from last year's visit and will be sending one or two from this year's. I believe Mike Clark also had one for them from last year ... and, of course, Mr. Galli's prints are hung not only there but all over Tonopah (even in my room at the Best Western.)

The park also encourages membership and publishes a newsletter called Tailings which you will receive with a paid membership ($20 per year) ... seems a small price for what they did for us. They even used some of our photos from last year in the newsletter.

The address to send pictures and/or to join their organization is: Tonopah Historic Mining Park, PO Box 965, Tonopah, NV 89049. I'm a member ... I hope you all will become one too ... after what they did for us, it's the least we can do.

[Asher Kelman]

A reminder ... the Mining Park gave us extraordinary access to their facilities and exhibits ... unlike virtually any other private park. They asked for only some printed photos in return. It would be really nice if each of us sent one or two prints to them for the museum.

I left them an 8x10 from last year's visit and will be sending one or two from this year's. I believe Mike Clark also had one for them from last year ... and, of course, Mr. Galli's prints are hung not only there but all over Tonopah (even in my room at the Best Western.)

Jim,

Thanks for this important information. I'll do my bit. I appreciate learning about the museum and agree it's so important that we show that to them and give back. It would be nice if they added a Paypal button to make the donations and for membership. Although it does connect with the past to fill in a form by hand and send it snail-mail!

Asher

[Jim Galli]

Thanks Jim. BTW, I was up there with the grand laddies yesterday for some of the mining events on Jim Butler Days, and they had Jim's print proudly and prominently displayed. They DO appreciate it. And a few pics will go a long ways towards some displeasure at our letting ourselves into displays that were cordoned off from the regular public. My address; jg, POB 3909, tonopah, nv. 89049


A reminder ... the Mining Park gave us extraordinary access to their facilities and exhibits ... unlike virtually any other private park. They asked for only some printed photos in return. It would be really nice if each of us sent one or two prints to them for the museum.

I left them an 8x10 from last year's visit and will be sending one or two from this year's. I believe Mike Clark also had one for them from last year ... and, of course, Mr. Galli's prints are hung not only there but all over Tonopah (even in my room at the Best Western.)

The park also encourages membership and publishes a newsletter called Tailings which you will receive with a paid membership ($20 per year) ... seems a small price for what they did for us. They even used some of our photos from last year in the newsletter.

The address to send pictures and/or to join their organization is: Tonopah Historic Mining Park, PO Box 965, Tonopah, NV 89049. I'm a member ... I hope you all will become one too ... after what they did for us, it's the least we can do.

[Jay Decker]

Guys, thanks for posting your photographs and sharing your stories. Looks and sounds like you got in some great photography and had a good time. Hope you have it again next year!

[Jim Graves]

And, by the way ... according to the Spring 2011 Tailings, next year we will be able to stay at the restored Mispah Hotel ... right on Main St. and almost directly across from the Clubhouse Saloon (home of the "Dead Laden") ... greatly simplifying my nighttime wanderings ... Hey, I might even make some of those early morning shooting trips next year ... naaaaah, that's still gotta be a long shot.

[Asher Kelman]

Here's another B&W derivative of scanned print from NC Portra 8x10 with the Super Symmar XL , Chamonix 8x10. I'm showing a crop. The full color version and derivatives are posted this thread devoted to the Belmont Mine, here (http://www.openphotographyforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14004).



http://www.openphotographyforums.com/2007_OPF_AK/Asher_Kelman_2007/Belmont 02 Brick ruins cropped Shad_H_Mult_BW crop800.jpg

Asher Kelman: The Last Inner Walls

Belmont Mining Town, Nevada 2011

Portra NC Color Film: scan of Print B&W Derivative

Comments welcome!

Asher

[Mark Sawyer]

Hey, I might even make some of those early morning shooting trips next year ... naaaaah, that's still gotta be a long shot.

Any decent workshop needs more than one temptation! :D

[Michael Clark]

Thanks Jim. BTW, I was up there with the grand laddies yesterday for some of the mining events on Jim Butler Days, and they had Jim's print proudly and prominently displayed. They DO appreciate it. And a few pics will go a long ways towards some displeasure at our letting ourselves into displays that were cordoned off from the regular public. My address; jg, POB 3909, tonopah, nv. 89049
I think I'll be sending some prints, would it be better to send to you Jim or the Mining Park?

And what about that knew restaurant we ate at,send some to them too?

Mike

[Jim Galli]

I think I'll be sending some prints, would it be better to send to you Jim or the Mining Park?

And what about that knew restaurant we ate at,send some to them too?

Mike

Either is fine Mike. I don't know the Mining Park's POB no. but it's probably on line somewhere.

[Jim Graves]

The address to send pictures and/or to join their organization is: Tonopah Historic Mining Park, PO Box 965, Tonopah, NV 89049.

[ghostcount]

I'm remodeling my dark room in a bigger portion of my garage - it would be a long while before I can start making silver prints. :(
Would it be tactless of me if I send them an "ink splatter" version of my negatives?

[Jim Graves]

Ink prints would be great.

[Michael Clark]

I'm remodeling my dark room in a bigger portion of my garage - it would be a long while before I can start making silver prints. :(
Would it be tactless of me if I send them an "ink splatter" version of my negatives?

ghostcount,is the Ink futures market down right now,just wondering as you are splattering the stuff around.

Let me know when you finish your darkroom so I can get some good Ideas,I'll be moving into another house sometime this summer.

Mike

[madmax12]

The images are so spectacular that I cant believe I was there . I would like to start a image exchange with all Photographers involved.

One image each no duplicates either B&W or color film usage only (I had to say that LOL)

Mine will be the dune shot.

Speak up and find your place.
Due in one month say July 4 what do you think. Mike I will need to come to your house to print Craig

[madmax12]

Oh I will be sending prints to the museum also .

[ghostcount]

ghostcount,is the Ink futures market down right now,just wondering as you are splattering the stuff around.

Let me know when you finish your darkroom so I can get some good Ideas,I'll be moving into another house sometime this summer.

Mike

Hehehe... Ink futures are not down but silver is on the rise - I think there's opportunity there. :cool:

Let me know if the 5x7 Durst enlarger doesn't fit - I'll come over and get it off your hands ;)

[ghostcount]

...Mine will be the dune shot...

Craig, that dune shot is a winner! I don't think I'll be able to make prints before July 4th since the DR is out of commission. :(

[Michael Clark]

Ok Craig,lets set up a day and time,if you have a day off during the week or week end.

Randy,I bought my enlarger while Durst Futures were low,so I'd do the same if I were you!!!
Mike

[ghostcount]

Ok Craig,lets set up a day and time,if you have a day off during the week or week end.

Randy,I bought my enlarger while Durst Futures were low,so I'd do the same if I were you!!!
Mike

LOL - I'm keeping my eyes open.

You ever plan on shooting L.A.? I might be interested in seeing your stomping grounds.

[Curt]

Mike, I thought you got that Durst because it was a Tonopah requirement, I've got one Per has some and you have one, how many others are there? Mines only a 5x7 Per has a big one.

I hope the move goes well for you Mike, it's a real challenge and a huge adjustment. I haven't moved since I bought this house in 1989, I hope it's the last one for me. If I do it'll be a huge motor home with a massive trailer in back for the darkroom.

I'm making glop right now for what I hope will be some excellent prints, if not they will be some fine prints, if not they will be some good prints, If not then it's good that I'm going to Vaughn's workshop again, this time out of the country. About three weeks away now. That bottle of Black Cat India ink is going a long way. Better get with Jim after you move and get some carbon transfer going again.

I had to check and see when my passport was up for renewal, got a couple of years.

Curt

[Michael Clark]

Randy,I'll let you know if there's time,think the moving and new darkroom are going to use up much time.

Curt , are you gunna be smuggling U.S. GLOP across the broader ? Thought Canada had glop of there own.

That would be great taking all kinds of photo's up there,hope you have a good time.

Jim G. said that on the next Tonopah they are going to let us stay at the Mezteh ,That would be great and for graduation you gotta buy a 5x7 Ebony. Hope to see you in Tonopah.

Mike

[Jim Fitzgerald]

Glop, glop, glop....... you guys and your enlargers.... really now.... just build bigger cameras and make glop. Simple life, easy printing. :-)

[Curt]

I just finished making some tissue, it takes some time to do it all but it's a good feeling to have accomplished something.

Asher, I have a Durst 138s 5x7, I don't know much about the 8x10 models. I found mine on Craigslist after just browsing one day. I got it for $100.00 and added a new foot lock and did some major cleanup on it. They are the spaceships of aircraft's.

Yea that glop is gelatin, sugar and pigment. Nothing fancy there to be a problem. I'm back in the darkroom after fixing the 8x10 tanks that had leaks. It's going to be a long summer.

A 5x7 Ebony would go nicely with my Durst but 5x7's are fine for carbon transfer prints too. Are they going to let you stay in the great hotel next time? Is it being totally remodeled and will it be ready in time?

Curt

[Curt]

Jim, I've got the 11x14 nearly complete and picked up some hardwood this afternoon for the film holders. I made the usual mistakes with the first film holder mock-up but nothing substantial. Got the Garolite and brass along with velvet for the light traps. I love a challenge.

Nothing gets the carbon tissue made like a new camera in the wings with a bunch of holders.

[Michael Clark]

This is the first Morning at the Dune's outside of of Tonopah,the neg is kind of thin but it still works.Ole' Jake with 210 nikor w and Tri x 5x7 film, and a 40y gel for filter.

[Michael Clark]

Tried to ematate a Galli Soft,smoooth lens of old with my 300mm Paragon 6.3, opened wide.It does contain some smoothness.

[eddie]

Great shot mike

[madmax12]

great shots Mike they are looking good .No one interested in the print exchange it does not have to happen fast . How about it

[ghostcount]

Hey Craig, I'm interested but for now it will be ink splatter for now. I'm going to Oahu in a couple of weeks for a mini vacation with the missus :D , so the dark room build will be on hold for the next few weeks.

[Michael Clark]

great shots Mike they are looking good .No one interested in the print exchange it does not have to happen fast . How about it
Thanks for complements Craig . A print exchange would be nice,but don't know how busy I'm going to be this summer.

[Jim Galli]

great shots Mike they are looking good .No one interested in the print exchange it does not have to happen fast . How about it

Hi Craig. Sign me up. My fear is to make promises and not deliver. Who knows when the printing dark room will be going. I've got really good paper laying out in the garage though waiting, waiting. Jim

[Jim Graves]

I'm in also. Might be a little later than July 4 though ... my social secretary (translation: "she who must be obeyed") has me booked pretty tight this month. I figure if I commit, I'll have to get some prints done for the Museum also.

[Forrest Atkins]

I'd like to participate...Another from the Dune's

[Curt]

Where were the dunes, in Death Valley?

[Jim Galli]

Where were the dunes, in Death Valley?

LOL, no the ones 6 miles from Tonopah. Several of you never noticed them because you were more interested in a dead cow. The first time we went you couldn't see them because of high winds causing a sand storm.

[Michael Clark]

Hey Craig, I'm interested but for now it will be ink splatter for now. I'm going to Oahu in a couple of weeks for a mini vacation with the missus :D , so the dark room build will be on hold for the next few weeks.
Hey, Randy,why don't you and that other guy (Craig) come over and print some up in my state of the art darkroom.I'll mix a batch of extra strength coffee and Dektol and you guys can have at it. And bring some extra candles for the safe light, never know when my neighbor will discover the extension cord coming from out of his cellar.

Mike

[Michael Clark]

LOL, no the ones 6 miles from Tonopah. Several of you never noticed them because you were more interested in a dead cow. The first time we went you couldn't see them because of high winds causing a sand storm.
I don't see anyone posting the Sacred Cow yet, or was that just a Gazebo thing.

[Michael Clark]

Great shot mike
Thank you Mr. Eddy,next time I think I'll smear some Vaseline on the lens and call it a Vaselematt IV ,he,hee.

[Curt]

Hey, Randy,why don't you and that other guy (Craig) come over and print some up in my state of the art darkroom.I'll mix a batch of extra strength coffee and Dektol and you guys can have at it. And bring some extra candles for the safe light, never know when my neighbor will discover the extension cord coming from out of his cellar.

Mike

Pretty soon the the freeway will go right though the darkroom, just pull over and you're there.

[Curt]

Couldn't see the dunes for the sand!!

[Jim Galli]

Pretty soon the the freeway will go right though the darkroom, just pull over and you're there.

♫ LA is a great big freeway, ♪ put a hundred down an buy a car............♫♪

[ghostcount]

Hey, Randy,why don't you and that other guy (Craig) come over and print some up in my state of the art darkroom.I'll mix a batch of extra strength coffee and Dektol and you guys can have at it. And bring some extra candles for the safe light, never know when my neighbor will discover the extension cord coming from out of his cellar.

Mike

Lol - I might just take you up on that! When do you plan on moving?

[Michael Clark]

Lol - I might just take you up on that! When do you plan on moving?
Not for a couple of months,cal-trans and the other government agencies are doing there paper work dance,tons of bull to go through.

[Michael Clark]

♫ LA is a great big freeway, ♪ put a hundred down an buy a car............♫♪
AHHH!! Jim just wait for when they widen Hwy 95 through Tonopah to about 5 lanes each way,the Los Vegas to Seattle express lane.

[Michael Clark]

Pretty soon the the freeway will go right though the darkroom, just pull over and you're there.
In and Out dark room.

[eddie]

I'd like to participate...Another from the Dune's

Wow! Super nice forrest!

[Forrest Atkins]

Wow! Super nice forrest!

Thanks Eddy...Really adds to the experience to see images from the Tonapah gang.
See you've been traveling...From where do you hail these days?

[Jim Galli]

Wow! Super nice forrest!

It's not a forrest, it's a sand dune!

[Forrest Atkins]

It's not a forrest, it's a sand dune!

you are both right...forrest in the dunes:rolleyes:

[eddie]

It's not a forrest, it's a sand dune!

Har Har Har ! Good one james.


See you've been traveling...From where do you hail these days?

In paris now. Be here. Week or O then moving towards the Mediterranean. :)

I still got Lots of negs. I brought some 45 with me to scan. Plenty more 810 and 45 at home when/if I arrive.

[Pete Watkins]

He didn't leave England he was deported. It was a sort of revenge thing against the French! The sad bit is I've got some of his negs to process. God help me if I cock them up, he's got bloody great guns.
Pete.

[Jim Galli]

He didn't leave England he was deported. It was a sort of revenge thing against the French! The sad bit is I've got some of his negs to process. God help me if I cock them up, he's got bloody great guns.
Pete.

Not to worry Pete. You can put Eddie's stuff in the Mistake thread. :p

[madmax12]

pick a day and lets invade his house LOL

[Michael Clark]

pick a day and lets invade his house LOL
Bring your own paper,I could mix up a gallon of Dektol and Freestyle ware house is 5 mins down the road,open week days only.Randy you can check out my 138 . Bring the beer and munches.

Mike

[Jim Graves]

Post your address and the date ... maybe we'll all show up.

[Michael Clark]

Well you are well come Jim, I'll be moving sometime during the summer so wanted to get as much use of my current darkroom as possible. It will take a while to build a new one after we move .

[Jim Graves]

I figure the Gazebo gang could do a Flash Mob at your darkroom ... we could have Chauncey take the group portrait.

[ghostcount]

Bring your own paper,I could mix up a gallon of Dektol and Freestyle ware house is 5 mins down the road,open week days only.Randy you can check out my 138 . Bring the beer and munches.

Mike

What kind of munches? ;)

I get back from Hawaii on June 13 and I'm available on the 18th and 19th - though Freestyle is not open on Sundays.

[Michael Clark]

I figure the Gazebo gang could do a Flash Mob at your darkroom ... we could have Chauncey take the group portrait.
Thats an Idea,the Official Gazebo Darkroom Closing Committee. Cram as many Tonopah people in their as possible and take picture.

Randy, I'll hold those days open, let me know when you get back from vacation.

Mike

[Hugo Zhang]

Hi Michael,

I may join your darkroom party in summer as my Mt. SAC darkroom closes in 2-3 weeks and I have many 16x20 negs to print. I will bring beer and trays if yours are not big enough for 16x20 paper.

My computer is down and I will post some small pictures, whole plate and 4x5", sometime next week.

Hugo

[ghostcount]

Hugo,

I can't wait to see your 16x20 negs - I did not get to thoroughly enjoy your prints in Tonopah.

Randy

[Michael Clark]

That sounds great Hugo, Tonopah reunion Print viewing and printing session. My sink is 28" wide by 10 ft long.I've got 3 16 x20 trays here. A 16 X20 Zone VI print washer and enough counter space too contact print 16 x20 negs.

[Michael Clark]

I'll be doing some printing this week to make room for in the fridge for the beer.

[madmax12]

18 thru the 19.... hmmmmm two days in the dark room yu got a floor to sleep on LOLOLOL I am up for those days will bring coffeee and other food stuff