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samster
26-Feb-2011, 19:32
Anyone know model and vintage for this Zeiss Ikon 4x5? It was my Uncle's...

Thanks!
Sam

Bill_1856
26-Feb-2011, 20:21
Tropical Flavorit (model 266/9) or Tropen Adaro (230/7). Somewhere between WW1 and WW2.
It's beautiful. How about some more views?

IanG
27-Feb-2011, 03:49
It's a 9x12 camera, a continental European format marginally smaller than 5x4. Film is still available for it, and they will also take a roll film back from Rollex & Rada etc.

There wasn't a standardised plate/film holder so it's important to get the right ones to fit the camera.

Bill's missed the fact it's marked Zeiss Ikon on the shutter, that puts it after 1926 which is when various German camera companies amalgamated to form Zeiss Ikon. Also it's a rimset shutter which was introduced in 1928.

Both the lens & shutter have serial numbers which can be looked up here (http://motamedi.info/serial.htm) and will give you a better idea of it's age.

These a re great cameras and quite usable :D

Ian

Bill_1856
27-Feb-2011, 06:42
My first thought was that it was indeed 9x12 and the original poster had wrongly assumed it to be 4x5. A little more digging, however, revealed that both these cameras were made in 10x15 cm so it could well be a 4x5. I wonder what kind of film holders it uses?

Rolle
27-Feb-2011, 07:36
Anyone know model and vintage for this Zeiss Ikon 4x5? It was my Uncle's...

Thanks!
Sam

http://collectiblend.com/Cameras/Zeiss-Ikon/Tropen-Adoro-230-3.html

http://collectiblend.com/Cameras/Zeiss-Ikon/Favorit-Tropen-266-7.html

As said above, it looks like these.

Steven Tribe
1-Mar-2011, 02:38
It will use a pretty standard metal single/double/film pack plate/film holder from Z-I.
Z-I were good at stamping size/type codes on their holders. There was a period when knowing the size (6x9, 9x12, 10x15, 13x18) was not good enough as they carried on the separate models from ICA, IHAGEE etc because of brand recognition in a very fickle and tough market (the great German depression).

IanG
1-Mar-2011, 12:38
they carried on the separate models from ICA, IHAGEE etc because of brand recognition in a very fickle and tough market (the great German depression).

Ihagee was never part of Zeiss Ikon :D

This would have probably been what ever standard Contessa Nettel used.

Ian