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Mark Stahlke
17-Sep-2010, 13:29
I'm getting ready for a fall color excursion. I'm taking lots of color film, mostly E100VS. I also want to take some black & white film. I have on hand Delta 100, FP4+, and HP5+. Which would you choose and why?
Just in case it matters, I'm developing in DD-X. Oh yeah, I'm in Colorado so I'm expecting a lot of yellow aspens.
Thanks,
Mark
Sirius Glass
17-Sep-2010, 13:34
Maybe it is just me, but I get the best fall color photographs using color film. Am I missing something here?
J. E. Brown
17-Sep-2010, 14:49
I do not have experience with color film, so I am afraid I have nothing to offer in that area.
As for black and white, I do love TMY-2 and I use it exclusively (I shoot 4x5). I am sure a great discussion of different films will follow, attached with everyone's personal opinion, all excellent material for you to form your own opinion.
I must say that the Calvin and Hobbes clip with his dad explaining B&W film is one of my absolute favorites.
Best of luck in your hunt for fantastic color film.
Cheers,
-JB
Yellow filter=white aspens
Blue filter=dark aspens.
Probably yellow will be white on film as is though.
Michael Gordon
17-Sep-2010, 14:55
I'd take the Delta 100. Why? Because that's what I use.
I'd also consider taking a set of filters (yellow, green, orange, and red).
if (windspeed == 0)
FP4+ @ 100
else
HP5+ @ 200 + luck/prayer
Delta = tabular grain::( IMHO
BetterSense
17-Sep-2010, 17:04
I think color filters will change your 'look' more than the film that you use.
Eric Biggerstaff
17-Sep-2010, 17:41
I too am in Colorado and I use Delta 100 for B&W work these days, which is the only work I do. Really, most B&W films will work fine and Michael is right, take a set of filters with you. I develop the Delta 100 in DDX 1+6 and I rate it 100, of all things. DDX is a nice developer and works terrific with Delta films. I was down around Telluride last week but there wasn't any color yet (still made a few keepers). The hot, dry weather we are having will likely not yield very nice colors this fall.
Have fun!
Some films (like classic pan 400) react to filtering more than newer emulsions. Just my 2 cents. Maybe it's just an adjustment to the filter factor but that's my experience.
David Beal
20-Sep-2010, 10:56
Take a look at http://www.normankoren.com/zonesystem.html, which has a neat comparison of black and white values and color values. Metering a color chart, he finds that red is Zone 5 and Yellow is 6 1/2. That kind of confirms my suspicion that an old technology B/W film would probably be better for fall color because I think it woud capture the yellow-orange-red transition better than a "new technology" film would. I'd take FP4+ and HP5+.
Good shooting.
/s/ David
SeanEsopenko
21-Sep-2010, 13:00
I found shooting fall foliage with a yellow filter required more care than I thought. Most of the yellow foliage was blown out in this picture. I was able to bring lots of it back in digital but I don't have the expertise yet to do the same in the darkroom.
http://www.seanesopenko.ca/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/princesIslandAutumn.jpg
When doing spot metering, would it help to hold the filter in front of the meter's lens to compensate for the changes in value caused by the filter?
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