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alex from holland
23-Aug-2010, 04:13
Hi All,

i found this (the big one) hermagis yesterday.
It's total lenght is almost 8"
Focallenght from what i measured at infinity is about 25" and it is about f8
serialnumber is 16840. It's hard to find any info about hermagis lenses.
It's not a petzval. it looks like an aplanat to me and it has the same build as the small one. I somehow have a weakness for hermagis. Is it the beautifull writing on the lens.......

http://upload.pbase.com/image/127734557/original.jpg

Thanks

Alex

Richard Mc
23-Aug-2010, 04:38
looks a bit like this one recently on ebay - search for item #200491051560.

auction ended without bids for US$12,000.00 (ouch)

there is an info sheet available here ->

http://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=35800&d=1264019934

alex from holland
23-Aug-2010, 04:46
Hi Richard,

nope, that's an eidoscope ( which i also have one :D )
This is an aplanat ( i think)
But thanks anyway.

alex

Steven Tribe
23-Aug-2010, 06:08
Very nice Alex! If we compare with Dallmeyer's EFL F.8 24"RR it should a covering capability of 18x16".

I have weakness for engraving too!

Emil Schildt
23-Aug-2010, 11:23
Very nice Alex! If we compare with Dallmeyer's EFL F.8 24"RR it should a covering capability of 18x16".

I have weakness for engraving too!

then don't go to Prague and if you do anyway, then DON'T visit the FotoSkoda store!:rolleyes:

there's an even bigger looking one there - and it is not for sale...:(

I Love the Hermagis writing too - I have a couple..

alex from holland
23-Aug-2010, 11:53
Hi gandolfi,

do you have any additional info about this lens ?
and i won't go to prague although it's a very beautifull city !!

alex

Steven Tribe
23-Aug-2010, 15:04
I couldn't find an Hergamis aplanat either. The protruding back is atypical for an aplanat/RR. The nearest I could find in bigger aplanats from France is enclosed (but only because of the delicate "retailer" engraving). They couldn't know that they did this over the seam of the brass tubing which has become obvious after aging. I have a similar anon. RR with the same distinguishing mark.

alex from holland
29-Aug-2010, 00:04
Thanks Steven.
Does anyone has more info ?
I would like to know the age of that lens ?

thanks

alex

Steven Tribe
29-Aug-2010, 02:23
Reading VM's section on Hermagis (it is not one of the better sections! - there must be a better french source) I would suggest it is from just before 1880. There is a known serial number on a bought in Darlot sold on a Hergamis camera from 1876 (14,xxx). The text says the RR is known to be from the early 1880's - but that doesn't exclude earlier manufacture. As there seem to few Hermagis RRs - it could be that this WAS a bought-in lens from someone else and just sold with Hermagis cameras - like the Darlot lever objective mentioned in VM?

alex from holland
29-Aug-2010, 03:12
Thanks Stedven for the additional info.
What is "the VM's section" ??? Pitty there is so few info about hermagis.

alex

Steven Tribe
29-Aug-2010, 04:05
Vade Mecum or Vademecum. Available (sale) through CCHarrison.
I am changing my mind a bit about the Hermagis engraving of "Hermagis". The bottom of the wide stokes look a bit uneven! Perhaps filling up with black enamel (or silver) would have made them even more attractive.

alex from holland
29-Aug-2010, 05:06
Thanks steven,

i have to work on the engravings. I also like them being more black.

alex

Steven Tribe
30-Aug-2010, 10:41
And another Hermagis RR/Aplanat No.6 12" to compare with yours. As listed to-day - you know where!

alex from holland
31-Aug-2010, 07:06
Thanks steven,

i will follow that one.
I small one i have s a nr 5, so a bit smaller
On the big one i have has no number, but it about 26 "focal lenght so much larger.

alex

Emil Schildt
31-Aug-2010, 08:49
interesting..
I have an identical (I think) Hermagis aplanat.

BUT it is no 3 and FL 540mm (about 21") - So a smaller number but much larger FL (?)

(no protruding back)

alex from holland
31-Aug-2010, 11:43
interesting..
I have an identical (I think) Hermagis aplanat.

BUT it is no 3 and FL 540mm (about 21") - So a smaller number but much larger FL (?)

(no protruding back)

what is the actual size of your lens ?

mine is 20 cm ( about 7.8 inches) lenght
diameter of the lenshood is 12 cm (4.7 inch)
Glass is 8 cm (3.15inch)

alex

eddie
31-Aug-2010, 12:13
here is my hermagis lens.

cdholden
31-Aug-2010, 12:42
here is my hermagis lens.

eddie,
do you make photographs with that or just drop it into a mortar tube to increase the body count?
chris

Emil Schildt
31-Aug-2010, 12:46
what is the actual size of your lens ?

mine is 20 cm ( about 7.8 inches) lenght
diameter of the lenshood is 12 cm (4.7 inch)
Glass is 8 cm (3.15inch)

alex

mine is smaller:

14cm height

10cm diam. with lenshood

8cm glass.

Eddie: that lens of yours: can you handle it? Or wouldn't it be better if I had it? :D

pictures (shitti digi I'm afraid) to show the lens in Prague...
SO close and yet so far away......:p

alex from holland
31-Aug-2010, 13:16
mine is smaller:

14cm height

10cm diam. with lenshood

8cm glass.

Eddie: that lens of yours: can you handle it? Or wouldn't it be better if I had it? :D

pictures (shitti digi I'm afraid) to show the lens in Prague...
SO close and yet so far away......:p


I just noticed that the Hermagis writing looks different from the smaller one i have.
I has a extra line after each letter.
Looking at other hermagis pictures on google it looks like they have used several different writings. maybe this indicates an age ??


the big one
http://www.pbase.com/alex28/image/128006063.jpg

the small one
http://upload.pbase.com/image/128006440/original.jpg

Steven Tribe
31-Aug-2010, 14:26
Interesting. Trying to create a 3d effect perhaps?
I suppose there is no-one left who regularly engraves in brass/silver who could explain the tools and different techniques involved?