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luis a de santos
22-Aug-2010, 14:36
Which old or new lens will provide the widest coverage for 8x10?
I am not interested on manufacturers specs but in somebody's personal
experience based in actual use.
90mm Nikkor?
127mm Wolleshank?
Any others?

Thanks

Luis

Louis Pacilla
22-Aug-2010, 14:53
Hi Luis

I pretty sure that neither of the lenses you have listed will cover an entire 8x10 plate.

I think one of the best crazy wide for 8x10 is the Nikkor -SW-120 f8. Just covers with CAREFUL use & is nicely priced.

Gudmundur Ingolfsson
22-Aug-2010, 14:59
Try 115 mm Rodenstock Grandagon-N stopped down to f32

Gem Singer
22-Aug-2010, 15:08
The f8 Nikon/Nikkor 150SW.

douglas gove
22-Aug-2010, 17:15
Another vote for Nikkor 150SW

Ken Lee
22-Aug-2010, 17:34
120mm or 121mm Schneider Super Angulon will cover 8x10 at infinity. Of course, if you focus closer, you'll get a larger image circle.

Don Hutton
22-Aug-2010, 17:41
The Schneider 110XL covers at f27... You get a tiny bit of wiggle room if you stop down more. The Nikkor 120SW also covers with a little more coverage.

John NYC
22-Aug-2010, 20:29
Just a question for those who have put forth the 150 Nikkor. Aside from price, why would you recommend that over the Schneider SS XL 150?

Gem Singer
22-Aug-2010, 20:43
John, the Nikon has a slightly larger image circle. However, the main reasons for recommending the Nikkor 150SW over the Schneider SS XL 150 are price and availability on the used market.

Besides, I've been a devoted Nikon guy for many years.

When I had an 8x10 camera, the Nikkor 150SW was my favorite lens.

Oren Grad
22-Aug-2010, 21:04
120 Nikkor SW.

Stephane
22-Aug-2010, 23:46
Dallmeyer wide angle anastigmat 140/6.3 (5.5")

Mark Sawyer
23-Aug-2010, 09:45
Bear in mind that these "super-wides" will need a center filter, unless you don't mid pronounced fall-off.

joselsgil
24-Aug-2010, 11:15
Bear in mind that these "super-wides" will need a center filter, unless you don't mid pronounced fall-off.

Mark,

I'm new to the 8X10 world. Can you explain what a "center filter" is? What would you consider "pronounced fall-off"?

Thanks,

Jose

Louis Pacilla
24-Aug-2010, 13:28
Bear in mind that these "super-wides" will need a center filter, unless you don't mid pronounced fall-off.

I think what Mark is pointing out is the wider the Angle of view gets the harder it is for the optic to transmit the same amount of light to the edges as it dose to the central portion of the plate.

In piratical terms this can be made up for in the printing process if you do projection enlarging. You can dodge the corners. However this gets much more complicated if you contact print. Also a problem for color work.

The solution is to buy a center filter. A Center filter has, as the name implies a center of neutral density which feathers off towards the edges. This allows the edges to catch up with the center in the exposure faze of the process. Usually the center filter is a step up in diameter with the correct thread size below for a given lens. So if your lens has a thread size of 95mm the CF will have top of say 105mm with threads on the bottom of 95mm.

One more thing. They aren't cheap. Particularly when you need one for a 8x10 modern wide angle. Keep that in mind when considering going ultra wide .This can add up to $450 & maybe more.

I think that's why Mark brought it up. It's often overlooked when considering the addition of U.W. lenses

Hope this helps Jose

BTW - I know you asked Mark & not me:)

Peace
LJPII

ic-racer
24-Aug-2010, 15:35
Widest 8x10 converage lens I know of is the Hypergon 000 75mm with star.

Fotoguy20d
26-Aug-2010, 08:43
For cheap (relatively) and wide, how about the Wolly WA Velostigmat - the 8x10 version is 159mm f9 I believe (I have one but have yet to use it).

Dan

mhanc
27-Aug-2010, 03:48
Not sure if you are only interested in wide angle for 8x10, but my Fujinon 360 f6.5 has coverage that accommodates all movements I would ever use and more...

Andrew Plume
27-Aug-2010, 05:13
Hi Luis

I pretty sure that neither of the lenses you have listed will cover an entire 8x10 plate.

I think one of the best crazy wide for 8x10 is the Nikkor -SW-120 f8. Just covers with CAREFUL use & is nicely priced.


yes indeed and from memory that's the lens which Bostick & Sullivan fitted to their 10x8 Hobo when they were making them (not sure if they continue to do so, from the absence of this little camera on their website)


andrew

Andrew Plume
27-Aug-2010, 05:14
Widest 8x10 converage lens I know of is the Hypergon 000 75mm with star.



that's a great lens but is it potentially the mosty expensive for this format..............?

no, I don't think that I've one in the LGM over here, or perhaps.............................


andrew

Jan Pedersen
27-Aug-2010, 06:02
Would there even be any 8x10 cameras that can compress enough to focus the 75mm Hypergon?
The 120 f8 Nikon as a fabulous lens and when focused at closer than infinty covers well enough to get a little bit of movements.

Michael Jones
27-Aug-2010, 11:51
I've used my 121 Super Angulon infrequently on 8x10. Its just a bit too wide for my taste; I could nearly see the tripod legs at the edge of the image.

There was a post on the forum (in the lens section, I believe) showing the differences in a scene with 4 wide lenses on 8x10 you may want to look at.

Good luck.

Mike

Andrew Plume
28-Aug-2010, 05:14
Would there even be any 8x10 cameras that can compress enough to focus the 75mm Hypergon?
The 120 f8 Nikon as a fabulous lens and when focused at closer than infinty covers well enough to get a little bit of movements.


fwiw Bostick & Sullivan used/recommended this lens for their 8x10 Hobo, which doesn't seem to be in production any more (the Hobo that is)


andrew