View Full Version : Tips on using a 90 on a MPP

21-Mar-2002, 18:09
I have the MPPMKV11 with a Schneider angulon 90mm, when using this lens it sits right back into the body preventing the rise & shift knobs from being used on th e lens front. Can the same effects be used by adjusting the fold out back of the camera?, I would like to use movements to correct perspective and also for wide landscape shots. Also the focussing screen is very dark, any suggestions for a brighter one to fi t this model, preferably with markings for different formats?. Cheers, Lee.

Colin Carron
21-Mar-2002, 19:07

I also use the MPP mk 7 and the 90/6.8 angulon. I find for architectural shots I tend to use the front for rise and shift to change perspective and the back for tilts and swings to change the plane of focus. The front knobs do tend to disappear into the body and it gets worse with shorter lenses but with 90 mm focal length you should be able to manage it. I have made myself special lens boards with rising panels for my shorter lenses to help get round this problem and increase the available rise. As far as the screen is concerned I use the original gg with a secndhand fresnel screen kindly supplied very reasonably by Robert White. If you keep looking you will see them appear occasionlly. This makes a big difference. The other option is a Beattie screen which is about half the price of the camera and lens. I could not get a Boss screen to fit the MPP.

Ellis Vener
21-Mar-2002, 20:43
yep, great choice that MPP over the Arca.

Joe Lipka
21-Mar-2002, 22:27
And with that recessed board, don't forget the angle adapter for the cable release...

Pete Andrews
22-Mar-2002, 06:20
The back of the camera can't give you any lateral movement at all, only swing and tilt.Bulkier lenses like the Super-Angulon and the Grandagon bring the front standard out of the box, but you still can't get much movement on them.You might try mounting that angulon offset on a panel to get more rise, cross, or whatever you need. It might even be possible to make a little sliding sub-panel for it.

Dave Glenn
22-Mar-2002, 14:55

I'm using a 90mm f8 Super Angulon on my Mk VII, but I'm using it on a cone panel (made by MPP) which extends the lens forwards. This may not work with your Angulon. Suggest you join the MPP Users' Club and ask for their advice (it's only 7 GBP per year - extremely good value) ... and you don't get any smart Alec comments re Arcas !!!!

I'm using a Boss screen on the Mk VII (Cambo fitting) and it works very well - not much brighter, but a lot clearer than the original.

Hope this helps


Pete Andrews
23-Mar-2002, 19:23
Further to my previous posts on the subject: Here are some illustrations of various ways to use the MPP with wide-angles.http://www.photo.net/photodb/image-display?photo_id=653592&size=m dThis first illustration is the camera fitted with the 90mm Grandagon-N 'straight', with 20mm of front rise. with this much rise, the bed needn't be dropped, even using a vertical format. The amount of rise is limited by the stiffness of the bellows in this case.

http://www.photo.net/photodb/image-display?photo_id=653605&size=m dThe next picture is with the 90mm Grandagon again, but this time the front and back have been backwards tilted by the same angle, and the camera body is tilted forward. This gives the same effect as dropping the camera bed, but keeps the focusing rails in-line, allowing smoother and sturdier focusing.

http://www.photo.net/photodb/image-display?photo_id=653614&size=m dThis last one is with a 75mm lens fitted to a coned panel, with the bed of the camera dropped as well. All pictures show the lenses in the infinity focused position.

Pete Andrews
23-Mar-2002, 19:26
Sorry about the messy layout!One day I'll master the way that this forum deals with HTML alignment instructions.