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Tim Kimbler
15-Jan-1998, 20:01
Thanks for the help and information on my selection of first camera and lens. I have a couple more questions. Can I get good results developing in trays till I can purchase a JOBO? Can the JOBO or an equivelent be bought used? Is the 45 MXT a condenser? Most of my reading leads me to believe that most darkroom tec hs are using a color enlarger. Can you get good results with out the added expe nse? If so, I have seen D2's available for very good prices. Are these good too ls? They are not cold light heads. Is it best to have a cold light head in a c ondenser? Again thanks for your help in making these decisions.


Darron Spohn
16-Jan-1998, 12:01
All the famous landscape photographers earlier this centry got good results tray developing their negatives, so I don't see any reason you couldn't. It's just m uch easier in a Jobo or other rotary tube processor. And yes, Jobo are available used. Check out the classified ads at http://photo.net/photo/ and other places. I recently saw someone buy a Jobo CPA2 with a bunch of print and film drums for just $600. If I had been at that store 30 minutes earlier that would have been my processor.

Most black and white enlargers are condensors. You remove the condensor head and place the cold light in the empty space you just created. Takes about 30 second s. The D2 is a very good enlarger. If you find a good one at a good price, go fo r it. Don't accept a used enlarger in anything less than excellent condition. Yo u can add a cold light head any time for about $200 new or half that used.

And yes, for black and white work cold lights beat condensors every time. This h as been debated elsewhere on this forum, but no one has ever named a good black and white printer who uses a condensor head. You can also get excellent results with dichroic color heads, but at a much higher entry price and higher maintenan ce.

31-Mar-1998, 00:11
Uh, two exceptions to the "no great printers use condensers": Paul Caponigro use s a Durst condenser and Brett Weston used a variety of condensers--sometimes eve n a point source! (See article "The Quality of Light in the Dark" by Joe England er in PhotoTechniques a couple of years ago.) But I won't argue with the superio rity for most negs of diffused light (although I prefer tungsten diffused to flo urescent cold light for VC paper; John Sexton has written about this distinction somewhere). The ideal, I've found, is to have both kinds of enlarger heads avai labe for different negs; if you can only afford one, I agree that diffused, if n ot cold, is the best option.

Tom Johnston
24-Nov-1998, 16:40
You are confused about equipment. Knowing the enlarge model does not tell you what type of light source it has. You can put a dichroic, condenser, or cold light on almost any enlarger chassis. You can't use a cold light with a condenser. You use one or the other. Yes, you can get exellent results with and type of light source. But, if you are printing black and white, I would recommend either a cold light or a dichroic head. If you aren't planning on printing color, there is certainly no necessity of buying a color head. One thing to consider though, is what type of papers you will be using. VC or graded. It's best that your light source is optimized for the paper you will be using most often. For example, if you are using an Aristo cold light with VC papers, you should get the V54 tube.