OverExposing Color Negative, Decreased Grain

[Howard Slavitt]

I've read in various forums that when shooting color negative, in particular, Po rtra 160 NC, if you overexpose (i.e. shoot it at 100 ASA vs. 160 ASA), then you' ll get less grain. For those who have used this technique, I assume you just de velop normally rather than push processing it?

[Wayne_6692]

You do develop normally. I often question whether this is really "overexposing" since most of the modern negative films seem very thin when exposed "normally". I suspect that most people improperly meter and expose for negative film to begin with (how many of us have seen newcomer's B&W negatives that have benn hopelessly underexposed?), and by dropping the ISO it just gets them back in the ballpark. The result isn't so much a decrease in grain with overexposure but the avoidance of an increase in grain with underexposure. Some, such as the old Kodak Vericolor, were genuinely overrated to begin with. Lab sensitometry test results often have to be adjusted for real world conditions.

[Jan erala]

May I ask how it is possible to have better scans from a dense neg ? I've been producing merely thin negs just for scanning reasons, but it is true that the custom labs here have problems to make correct scans. It is also nearly impossible to get 8x10 colornegs developed uniformly. The film is too wide for the nitrogen bursts in dip and dunk machines. Anyone know about some easy way to develope C-41 self ? Thanks, Jan

[Stpephen Willlard]

Jan,

The Jobo Expert drums are well known for their uniform development. I have been using them with 4x5 negs, and I have had no problems. I do monitor uniformity from time to time with my densitrometer. I am about to start doing 4x10s which is still not 8x10, but I have heard others say the development for 8x10 was also very good.

[Pete Andrews]

Portra 160NC doesn't have a true rating of 160 anyway, it's much closer to 100 ISO. Even Kodak's own published curves show that it's actually slower than profoto 100, which it closely resembles in contrast.DON'T push process C41 if you want any semblance of image quality. It just increases grain and blows out the highlights.

[Andy Eads]

A long time ago, Kodak admitted that its color neg films were rated according to the ISO standard which may result in less exposure than is needed for many practical applications. The moral is to test your film, meter, shutters, etc. to be sure you know how everything will behave when you just have to get it right. But to the question, the color film process replaces the silver crystal that detected the light with a dye cloud. The more dye clouds, the lower the apparent grain as their effect tends to average out. However, this benefit is usually at the expense of reduced apparent sharpness.