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Dave Schneidr
25-Nov-1998, 14:15
Has anyone written a simple calculation program that could operate on a palm pil ot or similar machine that does all the calculations? Can you point me to an onl ine resource that has all the necessary formulae? It seems like it would be usef ul to be able to enter lens focal length, distance to subject and relative angll e of desired focus plane and have a program caluclate the angles to preset into the camera. I'm sure there would have to be adjustments made but this would be a useful tool to get "in the ballpark" before putting your eye to the glass.

al
25-Nov-1998, 15:08
www.zonevi.com

look for exposure calculator

Ron Shaw
25-Nov-1998, 15:12
Well...since all 3 planes need to converge at the same point (such as ground, film plane, and lensboard), just eyeballing it seems to get you into the ballpark.

tim atherton
25-Nov-1998, 18:20
You might want to check out:

http://www.darkroom-innovations.com/Software/ExpoDev/expodev.html

http://www.darkroom-innovations.com/Software/FX-795P/fx-795p.html

I have no experience of them though.

Tim A

Ben Diss
25-Nov-1998, 19:33
I checked out the Darkroom Innovations software in detail. Its purpose is to control emulsion density on B&W film. Pretty sophisticated stuff and very impressive if thats what you want. It does not, however work as a general purpose exposure calculator.

I have considered writing such a program for PalmOS. Input would be:

1. Film (including reciprocity data) 2. Lens (available/preferred apertures) 3. Filters (filter factor) 4. Distance of nearest object to be in focus (actual or extension) 5. Distance of farthest object to be in focus (actual or extension) 6. Several meter readings with desired zones

It supplies:

1. Aperture (for depth of field) 2. Distance to focus (hyperfocal for aperture) 3. Shutter speed, accounting for: a. aperture b. bellows extension c. filter factor d. film expansion/contraction to achieve desired zone placement e. reciprocity correction

I suppose there ought to be a way to calculate Scheimpflug movements, I just haven't figured out how yet.

Anybody interested in a program like this?

-Ben

P.S. Thank you Quang-Tuan Luong for teaching me how to spell "aperture".

Howard Slavitt
26-Nov-1998, 02:15
"Scheimpflug Calculations" Has anyone written a simple calculation program that could operate on a palm pilot or similar machine that does all the calculations?

Doesn't Rodenstock sell a "calculator" that does what you're asking? Midwest Photo sells it for about $30. I've seen it. It's a paper "calculator," for which you select the lens, angle of focal plane, etc., by moving the circle paper cutouts and then line up the points and it will theoretically give you the best angle to preset the camera and necessary f stop.

Alan Gibson
26-Nov-1998, 08:31
http://fox.nstn.ca/~hmmerk/ (by Harold M. Merklinger) has all the formulae.

With your surname, Dave, don't you have it all already in the family?!

Lukas Werth
30-Nov-1998, 05:11
Try Harold Merklinger's book "focusing the view camera" or his website (forgot the address, but you should find it through the search engines Lukas Werth

james mickelson
4-Dec-1998, 04:06
I use the Dan "The Shooter" method of swing/tilt cypherin'. The ground glass doesn't lie. 99% of swings/tilts are very small so if you need to "calculate" these angles take up painting. Just kiddin'. Most of your swings and tilts are quite small unless your're shooting still lifes and even then you can guesstimate pretty closely just by "lookin' at the glass". Calculating this stuff in the field takes all the fun out of it. Just point and shoot.

QT Luong
7-May-1999, 04:54
Check out Bob Wheeler's free software, just installed on the LF page.

Ellis Vener
7-May-1999, 10:06
Just to be precise about things, I must correct Ron. You want the three planes he mentioned to intersect in a line, not a point.

martin tai
31-Aug-1999, 09:29
To great many LF photography, Scheimplug rule is the only rule they know of. But in fact, the popular Scheimflug rule a lone is not good enough the find the ri ght focus.

Scheimflug had a much neglected Scheimflug Second rule; and thanks to the ef fort of Harold Merklinger, this rule has being rediscovered and described in det ail in his book "Focusing the View Camera" as The Hinge Rule. It stated that th e front focal plane, the plane of sharp focus and the parellel to to film lens p lane must intersect at a Hinge line. With this Hinge rule, or Scheimflug Second Rule, focusing view camera becomes qu ick and simple, no more eyeballing, try and error. He wrote" in one outing,,, I had taken four photographs allwith different focus settings and in two locations in the space of eight minutes. That is 2 minutes per picture, vs 20-30 minute s per picture set up time by conventional method

You will do your self a great favour by BUYING THE BOOK. Forget about get the info from Harold's web page. Do you think he gave away all the info to sell the books ?