What became of Galerie?

[John Kasaian]

Hello! I just got off Ilford's website and low and behold no Galerie!I did a se arch and Ilford's site acted like the stuff never existed. I even tried spelling it Gallerie but to no avail. Does anyone out there know if this paper is gone for good? Calumet's ironic copy about all cold tone graded fiber base papers fa lling off the face of the earth is hard enough to take with the cancelling of gr aded Brilliant Bromide. There seems to be plenty of Galerie at places like Frees tyle and B and H, but if its been discontinued, then for the sake of continuity I'll have to use something else. Has Galerie slithered into the tar pits like a ll the other dinosaurs? Any suggestions for a replacement? Thanks.

[Anselmo DiMedici]

You might want to try Bergger graded papers. We're not going nowhere.

[Michael Feldman]

Ilford is now using the Gallerie name for its digital inkjet papers. Gallerie graded paper has not been documented on the B&W section of the Ilford website for a long time (if ever) and it's still available at many large retailers (as you indicated). There has been no official statement from Ilford on this one way or the other that I have seen.

Oriental Seagull G is an excellent graded paper manufactured in a small company in Japan and available at large retailers in the US. Their website is at: http://www.orientalphotousa.com/

[Ed Buffaloe]

The technical rep from Ilford has told our Printing & Finishing forum repeatedly that Ilford has no plans to discontinue Galerie. I hope that is true, but I think I better stock up before I find out otherwise. I've had excellent experience with Luminos bromide paper, and with Bergger. I've heard good things about the Forte cold tone paper, but haven't tried it yet.

[Jim Galli]

Some one correct me if I'm wrong (stupid thing to say at this forum) but isn't Arista Classic graded at Freestyle Sales Co. really Ilford Galerie?

[John Kasaian]

Thank you all! I'll definately give Bergger,Forte, Luminos, and Oriental a try and hold off using Galerie for my current project until I feel comfortable with Ilford's commitment to continue production.

[Sal Santamaura]

John, that's an approach which, if everyone takes it, will ensure Galerie's demise. Here's something from the B&W Printing/Finishing board that Ed was talking about:

Go to this thread http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=006JiD

and see my Sept. 16, 2001 post concerning continued availability of Galerie.

[John Kasaian]

Sal---Good point! I think its time to gather some negatives together, buy a good selection of graded fiberbase papers from as many manufacturers as I can(except Zone VI since they're out of the graded paper game) and see which one I like best---including Galerie and it's alter-ego from Freestyle. Probably something I should have done some time ago. Thanks for all the excellent input!

[Sal Santamaura]

John, if you have interest in including the imminently vanished Zone VI Brilliant Bromide II, all evidence suggests it is manufactured by Kentmere, and therefore should also be available in the US as a Luminos product.

[William A. Rieselbach]

Hi Guys,

Way back when in school, we used Ilfobrom. When I came back to photography several years ago, I found that ilfobrom was now gallery, amd gallery was now warmtone. A quick test showed that the current warmtone and the old gallery are pretty darn close. You might try it yourself.

Will

[M.]

I don't think so.

[patty meikle]

john, i actually just ordered ilford's ilfobrom galerie paper about a week and a half ago from Abbey Camera in Philadelphia. i've never used this paper before, but i've read many good things about it. the paper is on back order, but they will be delivering it to me (hopefully). what is so different about this paper? is there any special developing technique that i should be aware of? thanks, patty

[Wayne]

Patty,

I havent used Galerie in over 10 years and i didnt use it much even then. I prefer Seagull for cold tones and Forte warmtone for warm, Galerie (if I remember correctly) falls in between. It does have a slightly greenish cast to it, I know that. This ( I think) can be removed by toning, and you might experiment with developers (or just add some benzotriazole) if you dont like the color but dont want to tone. There dont seem to be many people using it anymore, and i dont see it discussed often. It does have its devotees though, and you'll just have to try it to see if you are one. Although it may be similar to Ilfobrom (which I've never used), I dont think its identical. Hard to say, since Ilfobrom is long gone.

[Sal Santamaura]

Ilford has updated many of its black and white Fact Sheets in the last few months. They're on the Web site:

http://www.ilford.com/html/us_english/homeng.html

and Ilfobrom Galerie FB is now included!